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Brother has said he will stop contact between his kids and my stepdaughter over Christmas invite

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Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:15

Our Christmas has been ruined by a family rift and I’m at the centre of it.

I married my DH in January this year. We are having a baby due in April 2026. DH has a child already aged 5. I’ve been in DSD’s life since she was 2 years old. She lives with us at home and has done since she was 3ish.

My family have always been welcoming of DSD and treated her as my family (which she is) and always includes her in family events.

I got a message from DB around a week before Christmas asking why we were bringing DSD to Christmas dinner at my mum and dads house as I’m “not even the kids mother” and “Christmas is for actual family”. I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”. I was then warned not to tell my mum as she was trying to keep the peace.

I did tell my mum and she was horrified, saying she had not said anything to my brother and that she has never had any issue with DSD or our family. Her and my dad have both said that they will never exclude DSD and see her as a grandchild.

Now here’s where it gets even worse. DB had said that he won’t bring my nieces around my DSD as she is “not family”. He called her “some child”. This is so out the blue as we had a bonfire party just for the children and they all loved it, and they are always around each other?

I’m at a real loss, I hate conflict but I feel like I’m being pushed out of the family for no reason. I also feel angry that my DSD is being spoken about like this for no reason - she’s 5, she’s never known any different.

I have no idea how to navigate this

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Farticus101 · 28/12/2025 07:41

Has your DB been accessing racist content and had his views influenced by this? Seems weird to have a sudden switch of behaviour.

It may also be that a new baby has made him suddenly made him greedy about inheritance.

Either way he is extraordinarily moronic to take issue against a 5 year old and I would be furious with him and do everything to protect the child from his horrible behaviour.

Owly11 · 28/12/2025 07:28

If your db is not usually a cunt then there may be something that you are not aware of. I had a few thoughts. One is that there may have been an incident with your dsd - maybe she witnessed something your db did. Another thought is racism. And another thought which might be unpalatable to you is that the nastiness is actually coming from your mum and dad and that they are being fake with you and pretending they are fine with it but complaining about dsd to your db all the time and leaving him to do their dirty work. The final thought is that it might be about inheritance and your db wants your dsd cut out of your parents will. These are all highly speculative but there isn't much to go on. I hope you get it sorted.

disturbia · 28/12/2025 07:23

I think you could talk to your parents about his latest threat and then have a face to face discussion with DB and your parents together in order to find out the real reason for his change of mind..good luck

Llamallamafruitpyjama · 28/12/2025 07:22

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:20

No! I’m so shocked by this. I’ve always looked after DNs when he has been at work, get on so well with DSIL. He got my DSD a present for Christmas.

he also started being critical of DH for some reason.

my main concern is my DSD. She had a rough start in life and she needs to know she is loved as much as the other children. It’s breaking my heart

My brother is like this and he’s jealousy. Pure jealousy at the root of every issue my brother creates within our family. I’ve been no contact for the last 5 years and happier for it. I’ve seen him a few times at big family gatherings but mostly keep my distance and keep it surface level.

Betty1625 · 28/12/2025 06:59

user1492757084 · 28/12/2025 05:52

Go visit him and his wife on your own.
Talk about the issue.
State clearly that your DSD would never be in a position to take any share of anything from his children so he is being a complete moron. She is a little girl member of the extended family and not a threat.

Separately, address these things....
When you are together as a family, pay attention that your nieces are getting their reasonable alone time with their grandparents.

Never be disappointed if your parents want to take their grand children to some outings, one on one, without DSD. Clearly never in a cruel way but I doubt your mother would ever be cruel.

Ask your parents to not include DSD in their Will.

Edited

I don't think step children or step grandchildren should automatically be included in the will but isn't it up to the person writing the will to decide what to do with the estate??

ElevensesKing · 28/12/2025 06:26

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:24

I doubt it, but maybe? He’s not liked DH as he is a different religion but he always celebrates Christmas with us regardless. He was nice the wedding though and they have had some nice conversations over Christmas (I haven’t told DH about these messages yet)

Is your dh is not white as well as belonging to a different faith and your brother's dislike against your dsd, be thinly disguised racism? Especially since you say that he's never liked your dh because he belongs to a particular religion. Is he a Muslim by any chance, it'll explain your brother's hostility.

Could also your sil be whispering in his ear and making the problem worse? I would tackle this directly because it's a horrible way to treat an innocent child.

SparklyGlitterballs · 28/12/2025 06:24

You say your DSD lives with you. Is that 100% of the time? If so, where does your DB expect her to go when you visit your parents?

Additionally, is your DH bringing his DD up in his own religion? Your DB perhaps doesn't want that to "rub off" on his own kids (basically he's racist). Out of interest, what religion have you decided to bring your own child up in?

I'd be telling DB that if he continues then he'll not see much of his new niece/nephew, as you come as a family package and you won't be excluding DSD from that. Hopefully your DSIL will maintain a relationship between you and the younger niece.

calminggreen · 28/12/2025 06:13

Why not say the religion? Could be the crux of it? What’s happened in the last month….a terrible terrorist attack on Bondi?….so if your husband is Muslim and he is raising the child Muslim then this could be the trigger ….sounds horrifying and stupid to many but who knows what’s going on in his brain? And without knowing the religion everything is just speculation as to what has changed so dramatically in such a short space of time

Ivegotchills · 28/12/2025 06:09

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:50

Mainly because I don’t want to upset my DH or DSD. My mum and dad have always welcomed DSD and DH, and I would hate for him to feel like they are not welcome.

I offered to talk to DB in person but he said it can wait til after Christmas. He’s now in person said he won’t have his kids around DSD, in front of my dad, who told him to grow up and get real.

What reason did he give?

user1492757084 · 28/12/2025 05:52

Go visit him and his wife on your own.
Talk about the issue.
State clearly that your DSD would never be in a position to take any share of anything from his children so he is being a complete moron. She is a little girl member of the extended family and not a threat.

Separately, address these things....
When you are together as a family, pay attention that your nieces are getting their reasonable alone time with their grandparents.

Never be disappointed if your parents want to take their grand children to some outings, one on one, without DSD. Clearly never in a cruel way but I doubt your mother would ever be cruel.

Ask your parents to not include DSD in their Will.

Hufflemuff · 28/12/2025 05:37

Either DSD has upset your DB 6 year old and he doesn't want his child to be upset again on Christmas- which is fucking pathetic because kids will always make up faster than the adults.

OR your DB is racist and has been emboldened by all the recent right wing knuckle dragging in the media.

Strangerthanfictions · 28/12/2025 05:29

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:20

No! I’m so shocked by this. I’ve always looked after DNs when he has been at work, get on so well with DSIL. He got my DSD a present for Christmas.

he also started being critical of DH for some reason.

my main concern is my DSD. She had a rough start in life and she needs to know she is loved as much as the other children. It’s breaking my heart

I love you for saying this. I've been that step daughter and it's a hard life feeling like you never quite belong. The main thing is here you have the power to insulate her from all of this, she is the child and she is the vulnerable one, if your brother chooses not to come with his kids then she need never know that was about her. I would take my time and write him a heartfelt letter outlining that this is a small child who you parent, who you gave parented for her entire living memory, who lives with you and is a blood relative to your partner and your own child and is as good as to you and can he explain what he thinks is so toxic and damaging suddenly about having a little five year old girl who is absolutely an integral member of your family, at Christmas dinner. Explain that if he holds this attitude to the little girl he is forcing you to set boundaries about his contact your nieces contact with her as your will not have her as a small child mistreated in any way and it is your job as a parent to protect her. Find out what you are dealing with here, is there a bigger picture? Does he ever kick off about you getting more support, attention, money etc from parents? This child is being used for an agenda and good for you for not allowing it

Poodleville · 28/12/2025 05:19

It sounds like your brother is jealous of the changes in your life. You've been married recently and now you're pregnant, and you now come with a man in tow and no doubt a cute 5yo. I bet you're getting more attention than usual? It would be strange if you haven't been! It's called "your turn".

But he can't exile you or your baby, so he's found a flimsy argument to target you via DSD. That's my guess.

Heresto26 · 28/12/2025 02:46

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 27/12/2025 18:31

I would tell him that if he doesn’t want his children around your daughter then he is welcome not to attend family events.

But I would expect your parents to say something to him and if they don’t then I’d be reviewing my relationship with them as well.

But tbh I’d be telling the 15 year old why you don’t see them, because at 15 she’s old enough (and at 15 probably gobby enough) to have an opinion which she hopefully wouldn’t be afraid to voice.

Yes surely you'll not be pushed out? Your parents should 'side' with you and call out his behavior. I'd have it out with him and if he is just simply being awful I wouldn't hide the reason you don't speak to him anymore from anyone old enough to understand.

ClareBlue · 28/12/2025 01:59

Guess is that you and brother are Catholic and your partner is Jewish. That would explain not celebrating Christmas and there are plenty that have found a hatred for Jews over the last few months that they never knew they had before and can even some how justify it to themselves, even to hating 5 year old girls. There's very few that can match the quick changes in prejudice than a ritious antisemetic who's seen the light of 'evil' Zionism can. I know, I live in Ireland

ClareBlue · 28/12/2025 01:31

What's the bit about it not being fair on the other children if your DSD is there, all about?
That's a seriously weird thing to say about a 5 year old being around on Christmas day.

PapaSatanicus · 28/12/2025 01:10

I very strongly suspect racism or prejudice of some kind here…

Shutuptrevor · 27/12/2025 22:02

Another one wondering if this is racially motivated and your brother’s started listening to far right wankers online.

WilfredsPies · 27/12/2025 21:59

If he’s said this to your parents, would your mum or your dad be willing to talk to him to find out what has brought this on? I don’t understand what has suddenly changed, unless one of your parents has made some passing comment about sorting out their wills and, as pp’s have suggested, it has suddenly occurred to him that a share for your DSD means a smaller share for his family?

I hope it doesn’t happen but as he appears to have gone insane, I’d be prepared for the possibility that he threatens to withhold contact with his youngest DD from your parents unless they go along with his nonsense.

Namechangeyname · 27/12/2025 21:49

ZeldaFighter · 27/12/2025 18:35

Could it be political / racial? Lots of people seem emboldened at the moment to pick on religious or ethnic minorities, where they wouldn't have done before because of the social culture.

Yeah, I wondered this too when op said her DH was of a different religion...

Daytimetellyqueen · 27/12/2025 21:44

This is so bizarre if it’s come out of the blue! Sorry Op.

Icanflyhigh · 27/12/2025 21:22

I think we might have the same brother as there can't possibly be two "men" as cuntish as this.

Mine is now dead ti me and I've not one moment of regret. I also still see my DNephew regularly as ex SIL supports this and makes sure it happens x

Aluna · 27/12/2025 21:18

Who are the 2% of posters who think this is ok?!

Simplelobsterhat · 27/12/2025 21:14

Why has everyone jumped to him having an issue with dh? My first thought was that something has happened between dsd and his kids, or she has behaved in a way he doesn't like. I know she's only 5 and holding that against her wouldn't be right, but it seems like most obvious issue. He's finding it hard to manage the dynamic between them, or she's allowed to do something they aren't, or there was some kind of name calling / pushing last time you didn't know about? And he's jumped to finding a reason why they don't have to spend time with her. If so he's not handling it right of course!

DeathStare · 27/12/2025 21:04

Do both your brother's children have the same mother?

If not, has something happened within one of his children's step-families recently and he's now projecting this on your family?

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