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Brother has said he will stop contact between his kids and my stepdaughter over Christmas invite

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Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:15

Our Christmas has been ruined by a family rift and I’m at the centre of it.

I married my DH in January this year. We are having a baby due in April 2026. DH has a child already aged 5. I’ve been in DSD’s life since she was 2 years old. She lives with us at home and has done since she was 3ish.

My family have always been welcoming of DSD and treated her as my family (which she is) and always includes her in family events.

I got a message from DB around a week before Christmas asking why we were bringing DSD to Christmas dinner at my mum and dads house as I’m “not even the kids mother” and “Christmas is for actual family”. I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”. I was then warned not to tell my mum as she was trying to keep the peace.

I did tell my mum and she was horrified, saying she had not said anything to my brother and that she has never had any issue with DSD or our family. Her and my dad have both said that they will never exclude DSD and see her as a grandchild.

Now here’s where it gets even worse. DB had said that he won’t bring my nieces around my DSD as she is “not family”. He called her “some child”. This is so out the blue as we had a bonfire party just for the children and they all loved it, and they are always around each other?

I’m at a real loss, I hate conflict but I feel like I’m being pushed out of the family for no reason. I also feel angry that my DSD is being spoken about like this for no reason - she’s 5, she’s never known any different.

I have no idea how to navigate this

OP posts:
Mollymaynot · 28/12/2025 12:13

To the posters saying I’m withholding information so there’s not much point commenting… I’m not getting into sharing my DH and DSD ethnicity and religion. It is not relevant at all. I’m not having this thread descend into an argument of religions or ethnicities.

My brother hasn’t mentioned ethnicity, but it might be that it is a factor.

How will telling mumsnet give any further insight into the situation?

DNS and DSD get on lovely. Eldest DN has bough DSD a Christmas present and is asking to see her this week. Youngest DN has asked her mum (DSIL) to FaceTime my DSD which has been facilitated. They all played together on Christmas morning. I have zero reason to think DN has “done” anything, but even if she had, I’m not having someone call her a random child, non-blood relative, etc. she is our family.

OP posts:
BadgernTheGarden · 28/12/2025 12:07

Hate to say it but if your DH is a different ethnicity has brother started following the hatred preached by some on line and is now directing it at your DSD (and husband). A sudden change like that has to have been driven by something and it doesn't seem to have been a change in the family dynamic.

Yogabearmous · 28/12/2025 12:05

I think this is the most awful thing I’ve read over Christmas. I’m so sorry for you OP. I suspect this is a red herring and your db is looking to fall out with you and DH. It’s weird for this to come out of nowhere .

Coconutter24 · 28/12/2025 12:02

Volpini · 27/12/2025 20:52

I haven’t read the full thread, but given the current hostility in the Uk, (and I’m presuming you are in the UK) my instincts are that you and your family are white and CofE/ Catholic - and your husband and DSD are not (white / Catholic/ Protestant.)

Maybe you should of read the whole thread before sharing your instinct

cityanalyst678 · 28/12/2025 11:58

If you end up isolated from your brother, that will probably be a positive thing. How cruel and vindictive. What has a 5 year old done to him? I wouldn’t want him in my life to be honest. And if I was your mum I would put him firmly in his place.

gamerchick · 28/12/2025 11:57

CautiousLurker2 · 28/12/2025 09:57

I can’t help but feel OP is being disingenuous - that this protest has arisen around ‘Christmas’ which is not part of the DH and poss DSD’s faith has to be the centre of the issue. DB is either bing Islamophobic/antisemitic… or racist and I think OP knows this as she has been coy about addressing the fact this has been raised/asked multiple times on this thread.

That's why there's not really much point in commenting. The OP won't answer questions so the whole thread is guessing.

The only thing to do, based on the little info there is. Is tell him to crack on, tell SIL you're sorry your babysitting services aren't needed anymore. Wish them well and get on with your lives.

SBGM247 · 28/12/2025 11:56

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2025 11:54

No, there's nothing obvious about it. You can include a non-biological grandchild in your will.

You can do anything you want @WearyAuldWumman . But I don't think it's likely.

SurelyNotShirley · 28/12/2025 11:55

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:15

Our Christmas has been ruined by a family rift and I’m at the centre of it.

I married my DH in January this year. We are having a baby due in April 2026. DH has a child already aged 5. I’ve been in DSD’s life since she was 2 years old. She lives with us at home and has done since she was 3ish.

My family have always been welcoming of DSD and treated her as my family (which she is) and always includes her in family events.

I got a message from DB around a week before Christmas asking why we were bringing DSD to Christmas dinner at my mum and dads house as I’m “not even the kids mother” and “Christmas is for actual family”. I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”. I was then warned not to tell my mum as she was trying to keep the peace.

I did tell my mum and she was horrified, saying she had not said anything to my brother and that she has never had any issue with DSD or our family. Her and my dad have both said that they will never exclude DSD and see her as a grandchild.

Now here’s where it gets even worse. DB had said that he won’t bring my nieces around my DSD as she is “not family”. He called her “some child”. This is so out the blue as we had a bonfire party just for the children and they all loved it, and they are always around each other?

I’m at a real loss, I hate conflict but I feel like I’m being pushed out of the family for no reason. I also feel angry that my DSD is being spoken about like this for no reason - she’s 5, she’s never known any different.

I have no idea how to navigate this

Ask your DB will he be stopping his children from attending school because of all the 'random' and 'strange' children his daughters will need to be around, and will he be crossing the road when he sees other children in public and staying away from parks, shops, swimming pools etc...kids everywhere. Sounds petty, but gets the message across.

It does sound like he's jealous and he's projecting. His kids are no longer babies and you have a baby on the way, so he's raging that baby will have lots of attention, therefore misdirecting his anger onto a 5yr old child.

Your brother is disgusting and I would tell him he has now become a safeguarding risk regarding your children and he is no longer to contact you or be around your children because he's too aggressive and bullying a 5yr old.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2025 11:54

SBGM247 · 28/12/2025 11:50

Obviously the non-biological kid wouldn't get inheritance. Not sure that's the problem.

No, there's nothing obvious about it. You can include a non-biological grandchild in your will.

SBGM247 · 28/12/2025 11:50

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2025 11:47

Oh heck. You're right. This hadn't occurred to me.

Obviously the non-biological kid wouldn't get inheritance. Not sure that's the problem.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2025 11:47

DisforDarkChocolate · 27/12/2025 18:21

He's seeing one more person to share any inheritance with. Utter c**t.

Oh heck. You're right. This hadn't occurred to me.

MeridianB · 28/12/2025 11:23

Your brother is behaving appallingly.

I suspect he is jealous or worried about inheritance from your parents.

SBGM247 · 28/12/2025 11:03

Simplelobsterhat · 27/12/2025 21:14

Why has everyone jumped to him having an issue with dh? My first thought was that something has happened between dsd and his kids, or she has behaved in a way he doesn't like. I know she's only 5 and holding that against her wouldn't be right, but it seems like most obvious issue. He's finding it hard to manage the dynamic between them, or she's allowed to do something they aren't, or there was some kind of name calling / pushing last time you didn't know about? And he's jumped to finding a reason why they don't have to spend time with her. If so he's not handling it right of course!

Good to read a sane take on here. So much virtue signalling and performative posting when this is most likely. I'm sure DB is rationale.

Poppinjay · 28/12/2025 10:58

ZeldaFighter · 27/12/2025 18:35

Could it be political / racial? Lots of people seem emboldened at the moment to pick on religious or ethnic minorities, where they wouldn't have done before because of the social culture.

I think Zelda has probably hit the nail on the head.

Racism is being expressed more openly and tolerated in our society these days. He just feels more able to say what he thinks than he used to.

ChristieMcVie · 28/12/2025 10:54

I wonder if he is projecting onto your DSD his feelings about you being pregnant and having a baby soon. Is he feeling like you will be the centre of family attention for having the newest addition to the family?

Also, if there is an ethnicity difference, could that be coming to the fore - his latent prejudice against having a mixed race blood relative? He was able to think he was a nice, tolerant liberal when it was just step family, but not now you will be having a mixed race child of your own (if that’s the case), he’s coming out with his racist inner thoughts?

He’s a childish, and frankly horrible, dick whatever the reason - using a 5 year old child as the object of his strop is completely unacceptable. I am glad your parents are telling him to belt up, but clearly he thinks withholding his children is his trump card, which is also demonstrative of his vileness.

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 28/12/2025 10:44

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 20:37

Thanks everyone. I have mentioned the messages to my DH. He was really upset and confused - he said that DB is lovely with DSD and he never knew it was an issue. He has said maybe there’s a jealously element as DB is no longer the only sibling with children.

he has suggested we invite DB and DSIL to speak with us to discuss anything.

Reluctant to say what religion/ethnicity my DH is. But he’s not from this country no. But neither are we! We were raised in Italy!

Any chance your brother as simply harboured “flags! Nigel! Unite the kingdom!” feelings all along and they’re coming out stronger now for whatever reason?

Shelby2010 · 28/12/2025 10:44

I suspect he’s realised that he is no longer the golden boy providing the only grandchildren. And because your’s will be younger, they will start to take attention from his. Previously DSD was your boyfriend’s daughter, generously included, but now she’s legally your stepdaughter so as much a part of the family as his wife.

hettie · 28/12/2025 10:27

My bet.. your brother has been pulled into right wing/reform type social media. He is being bombarded by Britain first memes about "Christmas being cancelled". Tommy Robinson has found Christianity and is hosting 'carol sing along's' to save 'british culture' funny you know.....

Lilactimes · 28/12/2025 10:21

CautiousLurker2 · 28/12/2025 09:57

I can’t help but feel OP is being disingenuous - that this protest has arisen around ‘Christmas’ which is not part of the DH and poss DSD’s faith has to be the centre of the issue. DB is either bing Islamophobic/antisemitic… or racist and I think OP knows this as she has been coy about addressing the fact this has been raised/asked multiple times on this thread.

This is what I was thinking.
There will be an element of racism involved somewhere.
Who talks about the level of family blood ties at Christmas?

PumpkinSpiceAndEverythingNice · 28/12/2025 10:20

Your brother is a racist. I’d be the one keeping him away from my family, never mind what he allows.

GoodQueenWenceslaus · 28/12/2025 10:12

I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”.

Ask him when the rule was made that says only blood relatives can come at Christmas, and whether he's broken it to his wife that therefore she's not coming.

Also ask him how it's unfair on his children, and whether he thinks it would be fair on your stepdaughter to leave her at home.

Tooobvious · 28/12/2025 10:07

But you’re not being "pushed out". Your brother is a fool and is pushing himself and his immediate family out. Let’s hope your mum stands firm and tells him in no uncertain terms that he’s being ridiculous.

Howwilliknow122 · 28/12/2025 10:05

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Theres no affair. I have no idea how ppl on the thread have connected the way the brother has acted over the step child with that being linked to an affair!
The average persone who suspects their bil of having an affair would probably not be nasty towards a child, his anger would be aimed at the husband. Some posters have made a connection with money or inheritance which sounds more like what the issue could be connected to.

CautiousLurker2 · 28/12/2025 09:57

I can’t help but feel OP is being disingenuous - that this protest has arisen around ‘Christmas’ which is not part of the DH and poss DSD’s faith has to be the centre of the issue. DB is either bing Islamophobic/antisemitic… or racist and I think OP knows this as she has been coy about addressing the fact this has been raised/asked multiple times on this thread.

Goldwren1923 · 28/12/2025 09:50

What a dickhead. Your poor parents!

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