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Brother has said he will stop contact between his kids and my stepdaughter over Christmas invite

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Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:15

Our Christmas has been ruined by a family rift and I’m at the centre of it.

I married my DH in January this year. We are having a baby due in April 2026. DH has a child already aged 5. I’ve been in DSD’s life since she was 2 years old. She lives with us at home and has done since she was 3ish.

My family have always been welcoming of DSD and treated her as my family (which she is) and always includes her in family events.

I got a message from DB around a week before Christmas asking why we were bringing DSD to Christmas dinner at my mum and dads house as I’m “not even the kids mother” and “Christmas is for actual family”. I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”. I was then warned not to tell my mum as she was trying to keep the peace.

I did tell my mum and she was horrified, saying she had not said anything to my brother and that she has never had any issue with DSD or our family. Her and my dad have both said that they will never exclude DSD and see her as a grandchild.

Now here’s where it gets even worse. DB had said that he won’t bring my nieces around my DSD as she is “not family”. He called her “some child”. This is so out the blue as we had a bonfire party just for the children and they all loved it, and they are always around each other?

I’m at a real loss, I hate conflict but I feel like I’m being pushed out of the family for no reason. I also feel angry that my DSD is being spoken about like this for no reason - she’s 5, she’s never known any different.

I have no idea how to navigate this

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CautiousLurker2 · 30/12/2025 15:58

BlondeFool · 28/12/2025 15:12

The OP deliberately isn’t mentioning what religion or race. The brother is obviously bigoted. It’s nothing to do with the will; most parents leave their money to their kids. Mine have.

Agree the will is irrelevant because, unless OP’s parents have mentioned changing their wills to add DSD, she will not inherit. She’d have to be expressly named in a will or formerly adopted by OP to have a legal claim.

Add, as far as we know, there may be no money to leave as we have no idea how wealthy OP’s parents are. Total red herring.

Satisfiedwithanapple · 29/12/2025 07:52

BlondeFool · 28/12/2025 15:12

The OP deliberately isn’t mentioning what religion or race. The brother is obviously bigoted. It’s nothing to do with the will; most parents leave their money to their kids. Mine have.

Loads of people have absolutely no idea how inheritance works. And it can be done differently. I agree if it’s done in the standard way it should make no difference at all. But it seems still to me to be the most likely driver.

CautiousLurker2 · 28/12/2025 20:02

Eyeshadow · 28/12/2025 19:49

But why would that be an issue all of a sudden?

The child had lived with OP for a couple of years and the DB has not had an issue this entire time.

I am guessing because OP only married DH in January - as she is being evasive it is hard to know for certain, but I am guessing that DH and DSD may not have been present at the family gathering last Christmas?

We are all surmising as she is being coy.

Eyeshadow · 28/12/2025 19:49

BlondeFool · 28/12/2025 15:12

The OP deliberately isn’t mentioning what religion or race. The brother is obviously bigoted. It’s nothing to do with the will; most parents leave their money to their kids. Mine have.

But why would that be an issue all of a sudden?

The child had lived with OP for a couple of years and the DB has not had an issue this entire time.

Volpini · 28/12/2025 18:53

Coconutter24 · 28/12/2025 12:02

Maybe you should of read the whole thread before sharing your instinct

Read all of the OP’s comments - didn’t read everyone else’s.

BlondeFool · 28/12/2025 15:12

The OP deliberately isn’t mentioning what religion or race. The brother is obviously bigoted. It’s nothing to do with the will; most parents leave their money to their kids. Mine have.

Superscientist · 28/12/2025 14:50

SBGM247 · 28/12/2025 11:50

Obviously the non-biological kid wouldn't get inheritance. Not sure that's the problem.

Not always. My family have always treated me and my half sibling equally. As soon as he married my mum he wrote a will to include his "step" daughter but he has always and will always count her as his daughter.

x2boys · 28/12/2025 14:37

DisforDarkChocolate · 27/12/2025 18:21

He's seeing one more person to share any inheritance with. Utter c**t.

Don't most peoole leave any inheritance to their actual children?
And grandchildren benefit indirectly?

ChocolateCinderToffee · 28/12/2025 14:31

I would guess money is at the bottom of this. It's a very strong motive. He may be making incorrect assumptions, but that wouldn't make such a motive less strong.

Daytimetellyqueen · 28/12/2025 13:59

soupyspoon · 28/12/2025 13:51

Well he isnt great either way is he, but the point is why now? Whats different now?

The political discourse has changed to some degree which is most obvious thing amid speculation of affairs and secret children.

Or the religious aspect has now manifested overtly - is your DSD now wearing a hijab or some other overt religious symbol that your brother strongly disagrees with?

soupyspoon · 28/12/2025 13:51

TheEverlastingPorridge · 28/12/2025 13:42

Maybe he is just a vile man - nothing cultural at all

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Well he isnt great either way is he, but the point is why now? Whats different now?

The political discourse has changed to some degree which is most obvious thing amid speculation of affairs and secret children.

TheEverlastingPorridge · 28/12/2025 13:42

soupyspoon · 28/12/2025 12:27

You said you were 'raised in Italy', what does that mean, that you're white British but raised in Italy, that you're white Italian and raised in Italy, that you're not white British but raised in Italy, or not white Italian and raised in Italy

There definitely is something cultural going on with the brother here isnt there, he's gone off his rocker about 'blood' family and whatever that means.

Maybe he is just a vile man - nothing cultural at all

SpinningaCompass · 28/12/2025 13:03

Your brother sounds vile. I'm so sorry. I suspect like others it's racists/religious based issues on his part. But I'm glad your parents aren't listening to his complete and utter bullshit either.

Eyeshadow · 28/12/2025 12:59

My immediate reaction is that he doesn’t want to be around DSD in case she says anything - could he possibly be having an affair with her mum?

You can’t go from being ok with someone to all of a sudden not wanting to be around them, especially a child!

SugarCoatSandwich · 28/12/2025 12:57

I think just carry on as you are. You still go to your mums, she's still comes over, you invite your niece/nephew to things you host and as a family you shun anything DSD isnt invited to.

I'd probably go out of my way to host more to piss him off.

LongDarkTeatime · 28/12/2025 12:53

I’ve no advice, but just wanted to say, you sound like a fabulous mum.
Your DSD and DH are lucky to have you and I’ve no doubt in years to come DSD will know she’s loved and protected.

soupyspoon · 28/12/2025 12:48

Nn9011 · 28/12/2025 12:40

This might be totally left field but is it possible that DB has a secret child? I'm just thinking if he's projecting (as is usually the case with these types of behaviours) is it possible he doesn't like how you've all accepted DSD because he fears if you were to find out, you would be horrified/try to treat the child like family in which case he'd have no escape from accountability? He'd also not be able to use the excuse that they aren't really family to avoid socialising his children together.

lol

PomandersandRedRibbon · 28/12/2025 12:43

I can only suspect jealousy and your DD step dd is being favoured over his DC.
He has seen a difference in warmth etc and how she's treated and he doesn't like it
Possibly also inheritance issues

ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/12/2025 12:40

Mollymaynot · 28/12/2025 12:13

To the posters saying I’m withholding information so there’s not much point commenting… I’m not getting into sharing my DH and DSD ethnicity and religion. It is not relevant at all. I’m not having this thread descend into an argument of religions or ethnicities.

My brother hasn’t mentioned ethnicity, but it might be that it is a factor.

How will telling mumsnet give any further insight into the situation?

DNS and DSD get on lovely. Eldest DN has bough DSD a Christmas present and is asking to see her this week. Youngest DN has asked her mum (DSIL) to FaceTime my DSD which has been facilitated. They all played together on Christmas morning. I have zero reason to think DN has “done” anything, but even if she had, I’m not having someone call her a random child, non-blood relative, etc. she is our family.

Once again, how have you not just asked him why he’s doing this? As opposed to all this speculation?

Nn9011 · 28/12/2025 12:40

This might be totally left field but is it possible that DB has a secret child? I'm just thinking if he's projecting (as is usually the case with these types of behaviours) is it possible he doesn't like how you've all accepted DSD because he fears if you were to find out, you would be horrified/try to treat the child like family in which case he'd have no escape from accountability? He'd also not be able to use the excuse that they aren't really family to avoid socialising his children together.

MILLYmo0se · 28/12/2025 12:35

I'd ask him to explain the 'not fair' comment, how is having a 5 Yr old at dinner not fair to his children? And where does he propose the child go instead given she lives with you? And is he seriously thinking that you, your DH and your child together attend Xmas dinner at your parents for the next however many years while their older sibling gets sent off to wherever he thinks they should be instead?
If you hadn't been able to conceive and adopted a child would he feel the same?

Poodlelove · 28/12/2025 12:33

Horrible man , she is family

soupyspoon · 28/12/2025 12:27

You said you were 'raised in Italy', what does that mean, that you're white British but raised in Italy, that you're white Italian and raised in Italy, that you're not white British but raised in Italy, or not white Italian and raised in Italy

There definitely is something cultural going on with the brother here isnt there, he's gone off his rocker about 'blood' family and whatever that means.

CautiousLurker2 · 28/12/2025 12:23

Mollymaynot · 28/12/2025 12:13

To the posters saying I’m withholding information so there’s not much point commenting… I’m not getting into sharing my DH and DSD ethnicity and religion. It is not relevant at all. I’m not having this thread descend into an argument of religions or ethnicities.

My brother hasn’t mentioned ethnicity, but it might be that it is a factor.

How will telling mumsnet give any further insight into the situation?

DNS and DSD get on lovely. Eldest DN has bough DSD a Christmas present and is asking to see her this week. Youngest DN has asked her mum (DSIL) to FaceTime my DSD which has been facilitated. They all played together on Christmas morning. I have zero reason to think DN has “done” anything, but even if she had, I’m not having someone call her a random child, non-blood relative, etc. she is our family.

We are not asking you to share this information - we are asking why you are apparently being obtuse in not acknowledging that your brother may have an issue with your DSD (and therefore your DH) because of his race/religion. Christmas is a time when these differences are accentuated - but you are seemingly being wilfully dismissive that this is what underlies your DBro’s behaviour.

We can’t advise otherwise. We have no idea whether your family are wealthy, whether your parents are likely to change their wills in favour of your DSD etc it is all very remote and unlikely to be the catalyst for DBro’s behaviour now. What is more likely is that Christmas [as a largely white, European, Christian cultural event], your pregnancy [with a mixed race child?], and possible exposure to increasingly right wing media reports are shaping his behaviour. But you don’t want to see this.

Toomanyweekstogo · 28/12/2025 12:18

Mollymaynot · 27/12/2025 18:15

Our Christmas has been ruined by a family rift and I’m at the centre of it.

I married my DH in January this year. We are having a baby due in April 2026. DH has a child already aged 5. I’ve been in DSD’s life since she was 2 years old. She lives with us at home and has done since she was 3ish.

My family have always been welcoming of DSD and treated her as my family (which she is) and always includes her in family events.

I got a message from DB around a week before Christmas asking why we were bringing DSD to Christmas dinner at my mum and dads house as I’m “not even the kids mother” and “Christmas is for actual family”. I replied saying that she is my family and our baby’s sibling.. he said “it’s not fair on the proper children of the family who are blood relatives”. I was then warned not to tell my mum as she was trying to keep the peace.

I did tell my mum and she was horrified, saying she had not said anything to my brother and that she has never had any issue with DSD or our family. Her and my dad have both said that they will never exclude DSD and see her as a grandchild.

Now here’s where it gets even worse. DB had said that he won’t bring my nieces around my DSD as she is “not family”. He called her “some child”. This is so out the blue as we had a bonfire party just for the children and they all loved it, and they are always around each other?

I’m at a real loss, I hate conflict but I feel like I’m being pushed out of the family for no reason. I also feel angry that my DSD is being spoken about like this for no reason - she’s 5, she’s never known any different.

I have no idea how to navigate this

cut your brother out, he’s a c**t!

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