Horror at sons "special" christmas present?

It’s more with a child, isn’t it? On a sliding scale per child .
We went through this for my son to marry his gf from abroad..she had 2 children already, so more income again . well over 30k They have to marry within 6 months of arriving, too.

Considering how short a time they have known each other, I don’t think I’d be jumping with joy. Expensive for her to move here, I don’t know how easy for him to go to Korea. I wonder if they thought it was an easy route to a British passport.
I’d have been annoyed at the Xmas present aspect. And the immaturity of having a baby without means of support in place.

None of which will matter if she manages to get a British baby born in this country and that baby establishes that it has a human right to be with both its mother and its father. And since it does then surely it's obvious where this is going unless she is forcibly deported before that child is born. Which she won't be because her visa will be valid for it to be born here, unless it can be revoked.

Its not really a relevant point.

You have to apply for a spousal visa from OUTSIDE the UK. She would HAVE to leave the UK for a period to apply.

You then have to prove:

• You are in a genuine and eligible relationship
• You and your partner’s combined gross annual income is at least £29,000.
• You have suitable accommodation in the UK
• You meet the English language requirement: at least level A1 for your first visa application

Even if you are married you still have to prove that it's a subsisting relationship.

Evidence for this includes

• potential cohabitation evidence OR a clear explanation of why you are living together currently and how you plan to live together
• frequency of contact being regular enough to demonstrate a relationship
• Photos to prove you've met and how your relationship has developed over time.

A baby is pretty good evidence in itself BUT there's still obvious problems here. If she leaves the country is she taking the baby with and if she does there's no guarantee she will get a visa and be allowed back in the country, though the son may have the right to challenge the baby's removal from the UK.

The lack of cohabitation and future plan to live together due to lack of financial independence and lack of income is the overriding problem here.

No worries @FlyingCatGirl! I was going, “I don’t think I said anything upsetting!?” I’ve already got someone upset at me in the swans thread so I can’t handle MN bun fight on two fronts 😂

Hunh? Were you trying to reply to someone else?

Remove the age from the equation, the age isn't the issue and you shouldn't have to be told the obvious! There's are two students still in the middle of studies, no money or jobs, been together just 6 months and she legally stay here if she's not studying! These are major differences from the OPs situation! But you choose to attack the OP even though you don't know why she was pregnant at 18!

Its not really a relevant point.

You have to apply for a spousal visa from OUTSIDE the UK. She would HAVE to leave the UK for a period to apply.

You then have to prove:

• You are in a genuine and eligible relationship
• You and your partner’s combined gross annual income is at least £29,000.
• You have suitable accommodation in the UK
• You meet the English language requirement: at least level A1 for your first visa application

Even if you are married you still have to prove that it's a subsisting relationship.

Evidence for this includes

• potential cohabitation evidence OR a clear explanation of why you are living together currently and how you plan to live together
• frequency of contact being regular enough to demonstrate a relationship
• Photos to prove you've met and how your relationship has developed over time.

A baby is pretty good evidence in itself BUT there's still obvious problems here. If she leaves the country is she taking the baby with and if she does there's no guarantee she will get a visa and be allowed back in the country, though the son may have the right to challenge the baby's removal from the UK.

The lack of cohabitation and future plan to live together due to lack of financial independence and lack of income is the overriding problem here.

I think the authorities might have trouble claiming that was a sham marriage. The young man sounds as if he is in love, quite possibly the mother too, they will shortly be the parents of a baby and a baby is a normal trigger for marrying. I'm struggling to see on what basis they could claim it was sham?

I think the authorities might have trouble claiming that was a sham marriage. The young man sounds as if he is in love, quite possibly the mother too, they will shortly be the parents of a baby and a baby is a normal trigger for marrying. I'm struggling to see on what basis they could claim it was sham?

Would it be that straightforward though, I don't think the authorities are keen to encourage sham weddings for the sake of getting visas.

But yes going back to Korea would also be challenging because the baby is mixed race and that could impact how people in Korea view that baby.

Korea does NOT look kindly on single unmarried mothers… she will be looking to stay in the UK or to marry him I should think. Time to get used to her OP…

THE OP LEFT THE THREAD ON THE 27TH. That was on page 1 or 2, and it’s up to page 17 now. You can obviously have a bun fight or share your opinion, but be aware that OP is MIA.

But it's not about valuing them so little! It's about not bringing kids into the world just to suffer and go through hell! It's the anti abortionists who don't care about the kids, they care about forcing the birth to happen but are cold, dead and numb to any consequences of that birth.

Well if you were 18 when you had him it’s a tad hypocritical to have a long face over him becoming a Father at 20 or 21.

Be proud that they will both be achieving degrees, be proud a termination isnt on the cards, CANNOT believe you will not be there for backup, your not going to let them move in so can you not see the pressure that piles on them and the possible awful repercussions for them… what a horrible being you are…

He can't live in Korea, he needs job sponsorship and a decent income to even apply and he won't get that because he cannot speak or read Korean. Korea is also apparently a very expensive place to live and deposit to put down get a place to rent is actually the equivalent of the value of the property in Korea so unless these two students have a massive amount of money somewhere they won't be living anywhere there. He won't be accepted into Korea I'm sure of it. Also Koreans apparently aren't too welcoming or communicate well with foreigners.