to think no one can define living as a woman

Oh @funtimess they must be wimmin as they have long hair and are wearing skirts/dresses!! You’re so silly!

Oh goody what a fresh hot new take!

Don't worry no-one can, apparently. Skirts and long hair maketh woman but trousers and short hair do not maketh man.

Western Aid Charities build single sex spaces in poor countries
(toilets, wash spaces, clothes washing areas)
for women

and rip out single sex spaces in their rich world office buildings
to comply with the demands of intolerant authoritarian 'progressives'

Everybody knows what sex they are
Men can LARP as women
but never BE

You do know that women can be raped by women, right? I did indeed used to work in DV and sexual violence (a long time ago now). And you're correct. It's hard if someone is very vulnerable and having to share a space. Where you're wrong is assuming that supportive environments simply involve in making them single sex. The way to help is to refuse access to all rapists.

In terms of the abuser accessing the single sex DV centre his female victim [sic] is in, yes, it's a constant battle, that's why refuges are in 'secret' locations and fortified ... Because oddly, most blokes who attack / access refuges aren't wearing a frock, a full face of make up and carrying a fetching clutch bag. Instead, they just turn up, often drunk and wielding something that could be classed as an offensive weapon, and try to batter their way in.

Ladies, with the best will in the world - as someone who's worked with Probation talking to sex offenders as part of attempts at rehabilitation - the two single biggest factors they mentioned were either:

1. they knew the person
2. the person had long hair / hair in a pony tail (grabbable)

Yes @SoftBalletShoes look at these beautiful feminine laydees…

Get a grip and stop touting gender stereotypes and nonsense.

I do think they’re expressing stereotypes yes, of course they are. As is their choice. I express some of those stereotypes myself. I have long hair for example. This is purely because it’s much easier to tie it back all the time rather than having to style it. Plus I don’t like spending money on haircuts. It’s long for practical reasons, not because I want to show that I’m ‘living as a woman’.

I don’t wear jewellery or make up or heels because they don’t interest me. I have no objection to other people (male or female) wearing those things if they like them. I DO object to those things being seen as symbolic of ‘living as a woman’.

I said dresses, not short skirts.

so you think women shouldn’t wear dresses or heels either?

"None of these sentences are true or even make sense if you actual stop and think."

They are all philosophical belief statements.

The question then leads to ask 'why has this particular philosophical belief been given so much power that it supercedes established science and language and is supported by law and government organisations to the degree that it has been'?

Do you think bio women who wear dresses, heels and make up are expressing regressive gender stereotypes? Or a fetish?

There would have to be a line in there about being indoctrinated to believe the needs and wants of everyone else come before yours. For example if other people were made to feel unsafe due to your wants you would immediately swallow them down. That’s how I know who grew up as a female.

I hoped the next generation of women wouldn’t have this experience.

It quite the opposite of a discussion.
It is attempting to stop discussion based on that person’s need to have a board curated to their personal preferences and deciding that the topic is not what they want on their board.

Look feminine?
look the way society expects? Boobs and short arms and no dick?

Let’s all remember Alex Drummond who famously said he was broadening the bandwidth of what it was to be a woman. Because he thought tinkering with his car in the afternoon then wearing a skirt and make up that night was not something any female person had done.

Needless to say, I had done all that as a 15 year old. But apparently, Alex Drummond, a ‘woman’ with a beard couldn’t understand girls and women had been doing this for decades before he modelled that behaviour.

Here is Magdalen’s response

I believe this man used to go into schools and teach children this.

No one has to read a thread anyway.

It’s a valid question. Why on earth does living as a woman hold any sort of meaning.

I rarely see the living as a man take, what does that involve?

I do an outdoors based hobby. Because it involves being outside in all weathers everyone tends to be dressed in a practical way for physical activity in the wet/hot/cold. The last time I did the hobby there were about 250 people present. I saw a grand total of 2 people in a dress, a three year old in a Disney princess number and a TiM. Approximately 100 women and not a single one in a dress.

No they don't and haven't for over a decade

That is exactly what happens now no therapy is required for anyone they just get given the drugs and surgery hence the massively high and ever increasing regret rates (usually takes about a decade to kick in) high suicide rates amongst post surgical transitioning and why gender clinics dont do follow up.
Things have changed massively since the 90s and not for the better. This is a massive medical scandal thats going to make labotomies and thalidimide (sp) scandals look like a minor blip. 1/3 of all gids patients are autistic when less than 5% of the population are autistic and they are being sterilised with drugs and surgeries, it needs to stop

Surely on a discussion board you don’t expect everyone to agree? That would make for pretty pointless “discussion”.