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My MIL turned up with her friends on Boxing Day unannounced and expected to be entertained

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Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:01

I have a very strained relationship with my MIL but won't go into the full backstory here. We had her over for Christmas Day yesterday. Today she called and asked if she could walk my baby in the pram for his afternoon nap. I said it wasn't very convenient and we wanted a quiet Boxing Day as we were tired from Christmas and are also hosting my parents again tomorrow. She persuaded my husband (her son) and said she wouldn't be a bother. I can't remember a time when she hasn't disregarded my wishes as a parent. Today I said, if you are going to walk him, please stick to the park to avoid the busy and polluted roads.

Anyway, she turns up, agrees to this and says she'll be back in an hour. 45mins later she shows up on the doorstep with a few of her friends! She says, he didn't sleep, he found all the shops (on the busy polluted road) too exciting. I bumped into my friends and they wanted to come over to see you (which definitely didn't happen as they don't go out. She had obviously planned this)

They barge in, saying we couldn't have tea could we? Totally shocked, I make them tea. She then eyes up the cake I've made for tomorrow and asks for some. I explained it was for my parents. She says, don't be silly there is plenty, walks over and starts cutting slices for her friends!

They stayed until I said, we need to make dinner for our kids now otherwise they will be late to bed. My husband noted that it was odd but said, "oh it was quite nice to see them" and "once on the polluted road isn't going to harm". In my opinion, that's not the point at all - as his parent I said what my stipulations were are she utterly ignored them.

AIBU to say that she can't take him out again. Btw, this isn't the first time. Without fail she ignores our wishes, is rude to us or pushes the boundaries whenever we see her

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EmilyDickinson · 26/12/2025 23:39

Re your MIL’s friends, I suspect they are used to being railroaded too. She will have said “Dopeychicken would LOVE to see you”. “Come on back back to the house - I’ll give you tea”.

Your MIL sounds like the type who has such boundless self belief that she considers your house a mere extension of her own, your baby primarily her grandchild to show off and her presence a treat for anyone

Woodfiresareamazing · 26/12/2025 23:36

My advice is LTB ie lose the bitch. Just say no. And stick to it.
Good luck!

Eenameenadeeka · 26/12/2025 23:20

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

I think some people have said it far too harshly, but the truth is that the way to tackle it is to get better at standing up to her even when she is dramatic and acts like you're the bad guy. It's not exactly your husbands fault when he's been raised in a situation where she's probably been treating her whole family like this his entire life, he's probably learnt from his father and family that everyone rolls over to her and we often see our experience as normal or just don't think that deeply- it can take time for someone to realize that actually they don't have to always appease their mother when they have been taught that their whole life.
The problem is that she is so used to getting her own way, but as you and DH get stronger at standing up to her as a team she can learn her place. You are recovering from birth you should not have to be handing over your baby or giving her the cake that you prepared for an occasion.

SixtySomething · 26/12/2025 23:16

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blueumbrella2016 · 26/12/2025 23:10

Some people will just push and push until you reign them in. Draw some boundaries or she'll just keep getting worse.

I agree with you about avoiding the polluted roads - protect that baby's lungs!

TY78910 · 26/12/2025 23:09

katepilar · 26/12/2025 23:01

Its one thing to let your own mother in, but letting in a bunch of strangers who happen to come with her plus letting her to steal a cake, thats another level. Bringing ininvited strangers into someone elses home is extremely rude.

I wouldn’t call them total strangers. DH knew them.

BlackCatDiscoClub · 26/12/2025 23:09

Justcheeseatthispoint · 26/12/2025 20:48

Thank you. I can’t be doing with atrocious grammar.

Total derailing here but this is a common grammatical pattern in areas of Scotland, I'll often say things in this way.

katepilar · 26/12/2025 23:05

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person.

If he has been abused by his mother all his life, the reason he doesnt know how to stand up to her isnt that he is a gentle man. Its because he has been conditioned to comply. Its very difficult to realise its not normal and that you actually should stand up to it. Let alone know how to. Even if you do know, its not easy to actually do it.

katepilar · 26/12/2025 23:01

TY78910 · 26/12/2025 19:59

Your MIL is absolutely a CF here and that would annoy me too. It’s clear she just wanted to parade her GC in front of her friends (I’d roll my eyes and move on if that’s where it stopped but the whole tea thing would annoy me).

However, it does seem like your DH didn’t mind them there, and ‘it was nice to see them’, so it’s one of those things you just need to suck up. It’s his house as much as it is yours - his mums friends are a part of his life. It’s CF to invite yourself over like this, but I wouldn’t have expected the DH to throw them out either.

I must say though. YABU about the ‘busy polluted roads’. Relax a little.

Its one thing to let your own mother in, but letting in a bunch of strangers who happen to come with her plus letting her to steal a cake, thats another level. Bringing ininvited strangers into someone elses home is extremely rude.

Homegrownberries · 26/12/2025 22:54

Hmm. I'm wondering what the other side to this story is. It seems unlikely that her friends, who apparently don't go out, were happy to barge into your house.

katepilar · 26/12/2025 22:48

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

But you didnt ask for advice, did you?
You asked if you were being unreasonable.

Thedownwardspiralpath · 26/12/2025 22:48

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

I’m sorry but this is MN and not the real world where people have actual feelings. Folk here won’t be happy until you throw your husband out, get all your ducks in a row, file for divorce, get a full time job, demand he has them 50/50 and ban your in-laws from seeing kids. 😁

She has obviously overstepped and was really rude. I would have moved the cake and asked your husband to make tea and offer biscuits while you settle baby. You need to both find a way to set some boundaries. 💐

JustLookingThanks · 26/12/2025 22:35

ShesTheAlbatross · 26/12/2025 19:10

I really don’t understand. Why didn’t you take the knife out of her hand, remove the cake, and say “what are you doing? This isn’t for now.”

Absolutely agree with this. Your house, your rules, she's treating you like a child.
As she's mentally abused your husband the only solution is a large distance between you and her. She has had a lot of practice. Save yourselves, move away.

Charminggoldfinch · 26/12/2025 22:35

I don’t think you’re being weird about the polluted road OP - but you do need to pick your battles. And the battles here were definitely MIL taking the baby out in the first place (should have stuck with no), her coming round with her mates (should have been no you’re not coming in) and her hosting her mates on your house with your cake. The fact she helped herself to the cake you made for your parents boat after you hosted her for Xmas day is disgusting and disrespectful to the special effort you’ve made for your folks. I would be making sure that you prioritise your parents next Christmas and give them first refusal of Christmas Day etc and your DH can arrange seeing his mum around that. You also need to get DH to explain to his mum that her actions today were not okay and that if you ask her to not do something in you’re house she needs to respect that

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/12/2025 22:35

Channel some of that assertiveness from your response to this thread - point it at your MIL.

It's not about standing up to her once by not letting her in, its about standing up to her repeatedly and consistently.

Not 'oh no that cakes for blah blah and thingy' say 'No, thats for tomorrow' and then TAKE the cake and put it away!.

Don't say 'oh yes have some tea' say 'No time for tea, Im very busy, nice to see you GOODBYE' and shoo them out!

Why does your husband think you need his Mum to take the baby out for a walk - HE can take the baby whilst you rest/nap/do something else. Its his child, just hand him the baby, if you feel frivolous I suggest 'tag, you're it' and then off you go to the bath/bed/wherever the fuck you want.

BlackCat14 · 26/12/2025 22:31

All of this is hideous but the worst part is the CAKE! Rude bitch! You’d said no. I feel livid about this woman.

DBD1975 · 26/12/2025 22:30

OP your MIL sounds exactly like mine, an absolute pain in the arse, entitled narcissist who thinks the world revolves around her.
I am so sorry as the situation is very difficult to deal with unless your husband is on board which he obviously isn't (mine isn't either and justifies her unacceptable behaviour by saying that's just the way she is).
I have had similar for many, many years, I am sorry I don't have any advice, only understanding and sympathy.

Heronwatcher · 26/12/2025 22:27

Honestly the minute she barged in, I would have been out of there, “oh well since baby hasn’t napped I am going to walk him
around the block. I will leave you in Dave’s capable hands.”. If she was eying the cake I’d have taken it with me in the pram, or made DH make a replica if they ate it.

Honestly if you’re not going to stand up for her, remove yourself from the situation.

blowthedoorsoff · 26/12/2025 22:26

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

I'm afraid your husband isn't all that wonderful if he would allow his bully of a mother who you say mentally abused him to do the same to his own son.

Will he allow his mother to mentally abuse your child too because he's too meek to say no to her? I am sorry OP but that isn't a good father. Parents protect their kids, they don't allow them to be mentally abused no matter how rough their own childhoods were.

I had a very traumatic childhood, there is no way on earth I would allow or accept my kids to go through what I went through. I would move heaven and earth to prevent that from happening.

Agrumpyknitter · 26/12/2025 22:26

RessicaJabbit · 26/12/2025 19:21

Why were you making tea and protecting cake and not DH?

The moment she turns up with her friends I would have opened the door then shouted to DH " your mother's here with some friends..." And left him to it.

This exactly. Let it be his problem. If they ate the cake then you could have sent your husband out to buy some more sweet treats.

SunnyViper · 26/12/2025 22:22

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

He’s not that wonderful if he won’t stand up to her, traumatic history or not. He needs to work on himself and not enable her abuse to spill over into your family, because that is what he is doing.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 26/12/2025 22:21

He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person.

There's no way I'd be letting a woman that abused the father of my DC take that DC anywhere.....as you did.

There's equally no way i'd be letting her walk into my house with her friends and dictate to me to make them tea and let her ignore me when I say that the cake isn't for her but my own parents then continue to make that tea and let her eat my cake....as you did.

There's nothing wrong in role reversing and you shouldn't wait for your DH, the very person that you know she mentally abused to speak up, you yourself should have spoken up and if she ignored you continued and showed her that if anyone was going to have to back down it certainty wasn't going to be you.

It's your house, your home...show some backbone and if she doesn't like it and throws a hissy fit declaring she'll never call in again congratulate yourself on doing a fantastic job and being rid of her.

joggingintherain · 26/12/2025 22:17

Dopeychicken · 26/12/2025 19:46

This was my first post on Mumsnet and I guess my last given these responses! I was hoping for some helpful advice on how to tackle a situation, not a barrage of criticism and judgement.

I actually stand up to her all the time. I set very clear boundaries and I limit contact as much as I can but it's a complex issue where everyone's thoughts and feelings need to be balanced. The other day she showed up during a nap when I'd said no, so I refused to answer the door. However, I can't have huge scenes in front of my children because whenever I have, she plays the victim and I look like the bad guy. I also have to balance my husband wanting his mum to see the kids which was the case today. I hadn't said no she couldn't walk him, I'd said I preferred not. My husband thought it would give me an hour to rest as I've not properly recovered from the birth. So he was trying to do a nice thing.

Thanks for the opinion that my husband is pathetic and wet blanket. He's actually a wonderful man who has been mental abused by his mother for years and has never figured out how to stand up to her because he's a gentle person. No, he doesn't deal with conflict well but the comments on here make it sound like he's a terrible person

But OP, having rock solid boundaries and telling her NO is the only advice that is going to work here isn't it? Its pointless us telling you to ask her nicely to stop or trot out some magic phrase because it simply won't work- she doesn't care.

You literally said she mentally abused your husband so there is no magic phrase anyone can give you that is going to suddenly change her personality or make her less of a total bitch, the only way to handle this is to stand up to her, despite her having a tantrum so everyone in this thread is correct.

You might not like it or want to do it but it doesn't make the advice in this thread wrong. I feel for your husband but it is still his responsibility to stand up for his family (you and his child) despite what his mother was like. This isn't just about him any more, it's also about his child and he owes it to you and your children to stand up to her, even if he is scared of doing it. As adults, we all have to do things that scare us sometimes - its the only way we grow as people.

Fixydodah · 26/12/2025 22:07

If your DH is incapable of standing up to her it is up to you to. Or just put up with it. She treats you as an irrelevance because it is what you and your DH allow. The strategy you should deploy is no.

thegrinchwasontosomething · 26/12/2025 22:05

The polluted roads wouldn’t be a problem for me, but I would’ve been raging at the cake.

you asked for advice, rather than judgement so here is what I would do:

Sit DH down and tell him that if he overrules you with your MIL again, he can go and live with her. You need to have a good talk with him about what is acceptable with regards to his mother.

come up with a plan for how you deal with it. And talk about how you’d react to future behaviour. Make sure your DH has some ready prepared lines to take with his mother.

also- and I mean this constructively- you need to grow a backbone. No one would come into my house and take a cake that wasn’t theirs. You should’ve been more forceful. It will actually be a good learning experience for your children. Otherwise, you are teaching them they have to be polite to bullies. You don’t need to shout, but you can be very firm. You can say ‘don’t touch that cake. It’s not for you.’ As firmly and rudely as you want.

maybe even follow up with - it’s very rude to come into a house that isn’t yours and take food that isn’t for you- would you do that at a friend’s house?

I know it sounds brutal, but i guarantee it would stop this behaviour overnight.