Argument with my DM over baby items

Hopefully the car will not be stolen if you’re leaving everything in it.

Completely ridiculous. What about all the millions and millions of people around the world who live in apartments? Do they get quickly tired of it? No because it’s just how and where they live. It will be perfectly fine.

This is what we use and it's great. Folds down easily with one hand - I have done this many times with baby in one hand folding the pram in the other. We also use a baby carrier a lot when out and about. The brand we use is Tula and it's lovely.

Oh ignore, people are ridiculous when it comes to houses and think that anything other then a 3 bed semi with room for office space and a driveway and garden will be absolutely unimaginable. In reality people live in all sorts of different types of homes quite easily and happily.

Why should OP 'be kind'? Her mother needs to wind her neck in!

I suspect toddlers are far more likely to fall down internal stairs due to lack of supervision than external.

But anyway, millions of people raise families in flats. The pram/buggy years will be over before you know it, what are the schools like more importantly?

I used to bump a pushchair up 2 flights of stairs when my eldest was in his first year of life.
I later moved to a gff then to a house. You adapt to your environment.
Your mum is sounding controlling already, hope this isn't the tip of the iceberg.

Ridiculous post - loads of people live in flats, houses with steps, houses with stairs, main roads, near water, etc etc

i personally live on a very busy road and flat with steps up to it!

it’s not ideal but we make it work - I can carry the buggy with my 1.5 year old up the few steps in the yo yo buggy

i have to take the overground train with him regularly and can carry the buggy up all around 25 steps with him in it (not sure How much longer il manage - but with older girl I just took what out and folded buggy and she walked up the steps holding my hand!

this is life for loads of people and you just have to Find a way to manage

i have to be aware that there is steps and a busy road and to ensure I hold the kids hand or have them safely strapped in before we open front door - but you just do that. It’s all I know and I’m used to and op will be fine too

I have steps up to my house.

You want a le clerc, a yoyo or similar. Bugaboo butterfly is good I hear...

The basinettes on the yoyo are flimsy so we went for a le clerc. But they are barely in the basinette.
Youll probably use a baby bjorn sling or similar for first 3m or so.

I ignored the (good) advice i got and bought a nuna.
we sold the nuna within a year... so heavy and you cant get the baby in without waking them up steps.

Just get a lightweight one...Dont buy anything weighing more than 8kg max

This.
Research the lightest fold up buggy from birth and you will be fine.
I had one that easily fitted in my boot and was so easy to manage.
I had enough friends telling me to avoid the huge heavy ones.
Tell your mother to mind your own business.
I didn't have a house full of baby stuff either.
I bought the minimum and moved stuff on when finished with it.
Look at neat compact items, do your research.
Loving where you live is a great thing.
Good luck.
New babies don't need much
Look up local second hand sites.

There is nothing worse than unsolicited advice and forceful comments from others - even when they try to pass it off as being helpful… it isn’t! I’ve had similar. Just try to pick your battles - I will only say something back if it really grinds my gears. We have 5 steep steps leading up to our house, it will be impossible to drag a pram up them. I plan to carry baby up in the car seat or bassinet, then fold down the pram and carry it up the steps. Chosen a very light pram for this reason - mamas and papas Vardo. You can’t base where you live on how difficult it will be to deal with a pram - don’t worry about it

The risk of a fall is increased by having steep steps to the front door of their terrace home. The data isn’t granulated enough to distinguish between stairs and steps, but it does show that falls are one of the top 3 reasons why thousands of under 5s are admitted to hospital every year in the UK.

It is quite simply a mathematical fact that the more steps you have, the higher the risk. Especially when we consider that outdoor steps are not only steep but also likely to be stone or concrete that can get wet or icy. They are logically, and realistically more likely to cause injury than carpeted indoor stairs with landings.

It is not unhealthy anxiety. I am not pushing anything, I am agreeing with the OP’s MIL that they should consider renting a more child safe home.

All it takes is one second of distraction or a toddler that isn’t willing to hold your hand. Or if one of you trips. Supervision mitigates the risk, but even with supervision toddlers still get injured from falls.

There is added risk.

The house is a rental so it’s not all that difficult to find a more child safe home.

Yes, this is not a healthy thought pattern and definitely not a level of anxiety you should be pushing on a pregnant woman. Your link doesn’t say that people with steps up to their front door have any increased risk of their baby being injured so has no connection to your point. It will all come down to how carefully the child is supervised, and that risk will be the same whether OP moves or not.

Is it?

https://stateofchildhealth.rcpch.ac.uk/evidence/injury-prevention/accidental-injury/

I mean you won’t be making your lives easy with that house. We have steps to our back door which is a pain but not front door. I couldn’t really imagine that. Lots of times baby asleep in pram ( have 3 dc) and I left them napping just inside the hall way.

she’s probably worried for you out of love, that you’re making your life needlessly hard

A good lightweight sturdy pram is a Nuna Triv next. Or the Joie signature is good too!

I just bump the pram up/down the steps. I'm on DC3, have lived here for over 7 yrs since eldest was a newborn, it's never been an issue. I'm presuming OP's house has like 5 or less steps not a whole flight of course.

This is an insane level of catastrophising.

I wouldn't have liked having steep steps with a baby to be honest. I know people say you can wear a baby carrier but my babies were all big and I'm small so I couldn't use them for long! I had a carrycot/pram and it was easy to just park them in the hallway to sleep after coming back from a walk - getting up steep stairs with a baby in a buggy sounds like a nightmare, or having to take them out and fold up a buggy 😬 maybe your mum is just trying to save you from having all that hassle? Of course, it's your choice what you do and if you're happy in your home then stay put.

You’ll be able to make it work if you want to.
And if it turns out that you want to move when the baby is here & maybe needs more space as a toddler+ then that option is still available to you.

I can see her point, but I think you’ll be fine as you are as long as you’re happy with it. People manage just about anywhere.

She's loops.
I had a baby and a toddler in a 200 year old house with no street access. Built into the side of a valley so to get to the street level you had to walk up or down 100 mid victorian steep stone steps.
It was fine apart from when it snowed... I had a backpack hiking carrier for the baby.
But your situation sounds much easier. You won't really struggle at all. It might take a few goes to get used to getting the pushchair up the steps but you could practice before the baby arrives.
We've got another baby now! So 3 kinds in total. We did move to a house with direct street access this time. But its still a victorian terrace with 4 stories and a quirky layout. It would never occur to me to go and live in a modern house due to the kids.
Mind you I grew up in a similar house so my parents would never have expected me to.
I think your mum is being ridiculous. You stay where you are happy. You'll easily work out how to make it work with the baby dont worry!

You can buy inserts for prams so you can lift a sleeping baby out- something like this but there are lots of options - https://www.johnlewis.com/bugaboo-2-in-1-baby-nest-black/p114239393?s_ppc=2dx_mixed_fashion_BAU&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20155423421&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgbnKBhDgARIsAGCDdlcHUsJW7A6FnHHfdyg1shfmrh9TSfmzofNIqyknLKQy5eQZjz77R9gaAnkjEALw_wcB

Then you can put pram in car and carry sleeping baby up the steps and indoors.
I wouldn't be moving ( it's expensive) just for that reason

I personally would not want to live somewhere with steep steps if I had a baby. If you go out to shop you will need to take the baby and shopping upstairs then leave the baby somewhere safe while you go back down the steps fold up the pram and carry it up the steps maybe in icy conditions. If you have somewhere on ground level you would be able to just wheel the pram in and not have to go out if baby’s sight. Also if you have a C section you may not be able to carry the pram up the steps due to pressure on scar.

If you owned it then I acknowledge it is drastic to move house because it is not baby friendly (toddlers and babies with steep unprotected steps is not a good idea) but as you rent that makes it easier to move. Your choice though so your mum does not get to throw a tantrum about it and I would stamp that entitlement out of her now. You not taking her advice and her getting annoyed strikes me she still treats you like a child.