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Am I a strict, unreasonable mum to 15 year old DS?

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echinaceaberry · 26/12/2025 08:08

NC'd for this.

I wrote a long post and then thought, all I want to ask is: what is reasonable amount of time for a 15 year to be gaming in his room on non school days?

It is the endless war in our house and I'm really depressed by it, by how I'm made out to be over challenging it.

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KitsyWitsy · 26/12/2025 10:01

I have three boys so I have been through this. Pick your battles and encourage them to do other things without making a big fuss about the gaming. I know it's hard. All mine still love games but I guess at some point, other interests took over and gaming is further down the list.

For one of my sons, gaming was his only social outlet for a while and he's made lifelong friends on it. It wasn't just gaming but met other needs too.

ParmaVioletTea · 26/12/2025 10:01

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Actually yes. I had responsibilities towards animals , including mucking out and exercising and training ponies (part of the family business) and I was up most mornings at 6am. The television wasn’t turned on in our house until after supper. Maybe at about 8pm, but I was usually in bed by then as I liked reading.

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Actually yes. I had responsibilities towards animals , including mucking out and exercising and training ponies (part of the family business) and I was up most mornings at 6am. The television wasn’t turned on in our house until after supper. Maybe at about 8pm, but I was usually in bed by then as I liked reading.

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Actually yes. I had responsibilities towards animals , including training ponies (part of the family business) and I was up most mornings at 6am. The television wasn’t turned on in our house until after supper. Maybe at about 8pm, but I was usually in bed by then as I liked reading.

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Actually yes. I had responsibilities towards animals , including training ponies (part of the family business) and I was up most mornings at 6am. The television wasn’t turned on in our house until after supper. Maybe at about 8pm, but I was usually in bed by then as I liked reading.

EatYourDamnPie · 26/12/2025 10:00

Onemorechristmas · 26/12/2025 09:48

I think it’s the quality of the stimulation that makes it different. TV is a bit mentally deadening, given, but it doesn’t give the same dopamine hit. I don’t believe expecting that level of simulation from life can be healthy. I’ve never heard of children going berserk about having the TV turned off, compared to computer games. They’re designed to be addictive

And yet TV addiction was a big thing , with research papers and plenty of articles published throughout the years.

Onemorechristmas · 26/12/2025 10:00

echinaceaberry · 26/12/2025 08:33

Ok. This is helpful, thanks.

So, he's Year 10. Just 15. In term time, all phones off at 9.45, he usually has something after school and then homework/training and he always eats meals with us. He;s doing fine/well in school.

The weekend (non match days) and holidays - I just feel has become a monster. He can literally argue and talk his way through any challenge on what amount of time he's been on - he'll get up late, walk the dog (sometimes, after an argument), eat, then do a couple or few hours - manage to get him off even for a short time to do something else - eat with us - and then he wants to game until 12/1 with friends.

It can be up to 7 hours some days and I just find it fucking scary. DH is a great dad, he agrees but also is more relaxed.

But I worry it's just insane. That his mental health will deteroriorate.

But it is like trying to reason with a rottweiler. After a battle, he is open to constraints on most things - he will EVENTUALLY concede on doing home work, curfews, no booze etc etc - whatever - but the gaming - he feels entitled, somehow. And it's always 'all my mates are on' You're strict. Harsh. Unreasaonable. Clash. Clash.

And so it goes on.

I honestly despair. It makes me feel like I've failed as a mother.

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It doesn’t help you OP but this is exactly why I won’t get gaming stuff for our house. One child could manage it and be reasonable. The other child sounds much more like yours. I’m hoping there’s some good advice for you from people who have a child like yours. Can you bring the screens curfew forward to 10pm instead of 11? Or 9 instead of 9.45?

estrogone · 26/12/2025 09:59

YippyKiYay · 26/12/2025 09:47

Our DS is now 17. He games with friends a lot on weekends and during school holidays. For me, it's not just about the length of time, the attitude when I tell him when his time will be up is a deal-breaker. Eg if he's arsey, then he spent too long on it and I instigate data free time (reading, whatever). If he's reasonable and pleasant about limiting the time online and actually engaging with friends ftf then it's ok.
During school terms, there are obviously more tasks that need to be completed before he can game with friends. But as it's his method of socialising I don't want to remove it completely

Do you make your 17 year old stop?

Onemorechristmas · 26/12/2025 09:56

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/12/2025 08:54

I was going to say this. I'm 70 and remember getting a TV for the first time. There wasn't a lot of TV on for children than and people thought children were being damaged by watching too much. Going back further in time people thought reading too much was damaging. In fact, not that much further, I know people whose parents told them to put a book away and go outside to play.

Real world play is indeed the best thing for children and so many are missing out more and more

Iwasneverafan · 26/12/2025 09:53

Lindaisonit · 26/12/2025 08:11

Why the need for a NC 😵‍💫

I never understand the need to start any post with this 🤷🏼‍♀️😵‍💫

CeciliaMars · 26/12/2025 09:52

FenceBooksCycle · 26/12/2025 08:19

I have a 16yo.
If there's no homework to be done, anything less than 5hrs gaming time is definitely cruel, unreasonable and tantamount to torture. I have occasionally allowed up to 7hrs when there's been some particularly stressful time recently and recovery time is needed. I usually try to ensure that it's no more than 2hrs at a time and extol the virtues of having a bit of variety in the day with a walk outside or sending them on a shopping errand. Even just switching to watching tv for a bit to give the fingers a rest is encouraged

Bloody hell. Life’s gone mad.

LavenderBlue19 · 26/12/2025 09:52

curious79 · 26/12/2025 08:13

This generation are literally rewriting their brains. No kid should be doing 4.5hrs a day on a gaming console, even if it is the holidays. It’s difficult to undo though when that’s been allowed to become the habit

I definitely use to play Goldeneye and Sonic for that long sometimes in the 90s. I appear to now be a perfectly normal 44 year old woman with a decent job and a family.

Of course it's not ideal every day, but it's also not a path to delinquency.

BaubleMeTree · 26/12/2025 09:51

We had forced times to come off gaming and way before dinner. That meant they were available to prep food, help cook, or actually cook the whole thing. Table setting, getting drinks etc. The same with after dinner, everyone clears away and no one is sitting down until everything is washed or in the dishwasher. Dinner was eaten together as was lunch on the weekend too.

Homework had to be done to a high standard. Attitude was the great determiner. If you were shitty, no tech for you. Argue and you lose more time on it. This was established in primary school though so they knew we stood firm. If you wanted more time on tech then you ask calmly, no demanding, just a conversation. We used to have family table talks. You want something, later bedtime, something you need money for? Negotiate for it.

They also had a chore chart that they were expected to complete with no comments. That way they had a daily routine of stuff to do.

We had family tv stuff, films on weekends, board games, card games. This meant they had a mix of different activities plus the sport they did twice a week. After that they were allowed to game with their mates or each other. Dh and I both used to game before we had children. We also binged tv as children too.

I don't think it is as bad as everyone thinks. It depends on the games they are playing. If they are combat style then their blood pressure is raised, the communication and language they can be exposed to is horrific. However, my now young adult sons play games where the communication is only between you and your team and the team consists of their mates not some aggressive 30 year old trying to take down teens.

No one is stressed to death in the games they play and they have Steam accounts so games are cheaper and plentiful. They learned that if a game was causing them anger issues, stop playing the game for a bit or we would take them off it as we could hear their conversations over their headsets.

SouthernFashionista · 26/12/2025 09:49

Not intended as a ‘dick move’ at all. I posted my reply before finishing it and realised that it was indeed harsh and didn’t convey any sympathy. FWIW, I genuinely do sympathise with the OP. I can imagine it is deeply frustrating.

Onemorechristmas · 26/12/2025 09:48

Lindaisonit · 26/12/2025 08:16

I used to watch that amount of tv in the nineties on school holidays! So was the difference? My ds doesn’t watch tv unless I beg him to watch a movie with me

I think it’s the quality of the stimulation that makes it different. TV is a bit mentally deadening, given, but it doesn’t give the same dopamine hit. I don’t believe expecting that level of simulation from life can be healthy. I’ve never heard of children going berserk about having the TV turned off, compared to computer games. They’re designed to be addictive

YippyKiYay · 26/12/2025 09:47

Our DS is now 17. He games with friends a lot on weekends and during school holidays. For me, it's not just about the length of time, the attitude when I tell him when his time will be up is a deal-breaker. Eg if he's arsey, then he spent too long on it and I instigate data free time (reading, whatever). If he's reasonable and pleasant about limiting the time online and actually engaging with friends ftf then it's ok.
During school terms, there are obviously more tasks that need to be completed before he can game with friends. But as it's his method of socialising I don't want to remove it completely

BauhausOfEliott · 26/12/2025 09:44

echinaceaberry · 26/12/2025 09:20

Yes, I did. He had piano lessons, then guitar lessons - totalling 4 years, until he gave them up in Year 9. I'm a great cook, we often cooked together - when he went through a fad of loving baking, we did lots of that. I am a published fiction writer - I've taken him to events, brought copious books - I've indulged everything I can, where I can, because I want my kids to have those opportunities - if only to see where it can take them

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I’m a great cook

I’m a published fiction writer

So what? He isn’t you. Let him be his own person. Stop projecting.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 26/12/2025 09:42

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 26/12/2025 08:10

I think at 15 you just have to leave them to it- be different if it was alcohol/drugs/partying/ stealing etc but I think let them spend their downtime how they like

I disagree. I honestly think I’d prefer they were out drinking and partying with friends! It is so so so kind for their brains and social skills.

Bluefloor · 26/12/2025 09:41

Helpwithdivorce · 26/12/2025 09:20

I grew up in the 80s-90s and had a c64 and a sega mega drive. I certainly spent 6-8hours playing sonic the hedgehog and monkey island. Unsurprisingly I’m fine. Leave him to it

Sorry the games now are completely different to sega games from back in the day. Apples and oranges.

BauhausOfEliott · 26/12/2025 09:41

echinaceaberry · 26/12/2025 09:04

Anything. Learn an instrument. Write a short story. Cook. Listen to music. Read a book (has become an enormously reluctant reader)

I'm a creative, so that would be obvious for me but anything other than gaming.

Yes, he games a lot with friends. Sometimes chooses to be on his own.

Let him choose his own hobbies.

You clearly want him to spend his time doing what you enjoy. You’ve arbitrarily decided gaming isn’t wholesome/improving/artsy/middle-class enough for your child and you’d rather he did something he doesn’t enjoy as much.

He’s 15, not 7. He’s old enough to choose his own pastimes.

KrimboBell · 26/12/2025 09:39

My son at this age was similar, I did worry and would try and make sure he was off by 10pm on a school night but I did take some comfort that he was socialising - sometimes I could hear him laughing so I thought it can’t be all bad. It was a blessing during lockdown.
He is now 20 and in university and hardly games at all as he s too busy doing other stuff.
My advice would be set times he has to finish by - turn the internet off if needs be and change the password to one he doesn’t know

AngelinaFibres · 26/12/2025 09:37

echinaceaberry · 26/12/2025 09:20

Yes, I did. He had piano lessons, then guitar lessons - totalling 4 years, until he gave them up in Year 9. I'm a great cook, we often cooked together - when he went through a fad of loving baking, we did lots of that. I am a published fiction writer - I've taken him to events, brought copious books - I've indulged everything I can, where I can, because I want my kids to have those opportunities - if only to see where it can take them

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All these things are inside him and , in years to come, they may well reappear. Cooking is a fantastic skillat uni, as is music. My youngest brother joined the choir at his university, discovered there were 4 men and 23 women and had a very pleasant few tears ( lots of sex). When he gas children of his own he may well use the story writing skills. Just now it's gaming

Driftingawaynow · 26/12/2025 09:36

They do learn a lot of skills from gaming, teamwork, problem-solving, specific social skills, negotiating, planning….Depends what he’s playing I suppose. It’s fucking hideous and you have my sympathies, but if you think about it, it’s not long before he will have absolutely free rein and you won’t be able to do anything about it at all, I’m just being realistic, I would probably be relaxed about it like his dad is because you are fighting a losing battle and it would be better to be there to help him navigate the world of gaming with all its social complexity. It can be a very creative endeavour, it makes a huge difference, whether he’s involved in massive Minecraft building activities with his peers or simply playing Grandtheft auto. I would try to get in there with him if I was you and show an interest in what he is doing.

Lindaisonit · 26/12/2025 09:34

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 26/12/2025 09:34

curious79 · 26/12/2025 08:13

This generation are literally rewriting their brains. No kid should be doing 4.5hrs a day on a gaming console, even if it is the holidays. It’s difficult to undo though when that’s been allowed to become the habit

My ds ( now 32) gamed constantly in his teens.

He’s got a fantastic job, lovely gf and his own house. He’s kind, caring, funny and lovely.

If it rewrote his brain it did it in a good way. He still games now.

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