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Had a disagreement with a friend this evening - who is unreasonable?

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 20:55

I’ll preempt this by saying I am absolutely shattered after a ridiculously busy few weeks and very little sleep the last 2 nights, so I might just be being sensitive!

My middle son turns 18 in 2 weeks time. He and I have an identical sense of humour - a bit dirty, enioy dark jokes, find innuendo funny, etc. he has a few innuendo style t-shirts. I was showing my friend a picture of a t-shirt I have bought him for Xmas that I KNOW he will find hilarious and wear with pride - it has a picture of a cockerel on it with the words “stop staring at my cock”

My friend started telling me off and that it was completely inappropriate for a mum to buy that for her son. I explained it’s in a similar theme to stuff he already owns, and ones he’s asked for. I reminded her he’s about to turn 18. She asked me if I was shagging him (WTAF of course I’m not) and kept going on about his inappropriate it is. I tried explaining again about his humour and how I wouldn’t buy it for either of his brothers (20 & 14) because it’s not their sense of humour and inappropriate for the younger one. She was saying how she wouldn’t get it for her kids - I said that’s fine, no-one says she has to and it’s about tailoring it to the person.

She dropped it, but a minute later started again. She said that I’d mentioned reporting a major safeguarding concern to the school a few days ago (I hadn’t told her details as none of her business but I told her I had to report something truly awful I had been told about) and that I should be safeguarding my family too. I reminded her again he is pretty much an adult. I asked the other people at her party, one of whom is a secondary school teacher, they couldn’t see the issue and said it wasn’t a safeguarding concern in their opinion. I need up getting fed up of her going on about it so said I really don’t need this today after a busy day so I was going to go home, and left.

Now bear in mind too that her eldest son was joining in with some extremely outright sexual comments/rude games on New Year’s Eve 2 years ago (he was only just 19) and possibly the year before but I can’t be certain. Games like Cards Against Humanity, Bad People, etc. No innuendo needed with the stuff coming out for example. I pointed this out to her and she said it was completely different as he was older (13 months older to be exact).

So I sit here at home a little upset by her attitude but also wondering if she was right. I don’t think I’m wrong to get it - I agree it’s not in the best taste, or the wittiest joke in history, but that’s not what the discussion was about!

Mumsnet - I’m on the app so not sure if I can enable voting (I will try).. but AIBU?

YABU - it’s completely wrong for a mum to buy that t-shirt for a 17 year old about to turn 18, even if it is his sense of humour.

YANBU - as long as it’s what he wanted, there’s no issue here and your friend is being weird.

Thank you in advance.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:57

Genuinely thank you, even those who don’t agree with the contents of the t-shirt. I really started to question my own judgement with the way she was going on, so I knew this place is brutal enough to have told me honestly if it was absolutely wrong to be a mum buying this.

Hopefully I will sleep and not play over how I should have handled it all night!

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pizzaHeart · 24/12/2025 21:55

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/12/2025 21:12

Really weird that she asked if you were shagging him. Like give a wide berth weird.

I actually think that her comment was very inappropriate.
The tshirt was just a specific kind of humour, the comment was out of order.

ChaToilLeam · 24/12/2025 21:50

She is seriously nuts! The T shirt wouldn't be to my taste but it's hardly the most offensive thing on this earth, just a laugh.

MaybeNotNo · 24/12/2025 21:43

You know your ds.

I bought my youngest a t shirt in the US in November with a cheerleading slogan on it because I thought he would find it funny. And he did! (I know boys cheerlead, but not often here)

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:41

Itsseweasy · 24/12/2025 21:36

I can admittedly be a bit of a prude when it comes to slogan t-shirts as I don’t like little kids seeing them out and about - but that one really made me laugh 😂
Your “friend” sounds like she has some issues going on somewhere as what she was suggesting is way more offensive!
I hope your son loves his new T-shirt and that your friend does a bit of self reflection.

Thank you. And tried to pop down and drag me back - I said we’re all good, I’m not falling out with her but I was really tired and we clearly disagreed so I went home to avoid a big fall out. I am hoping when she is sober we can have a talk about it and she’ll understand why I was upset. I’ve always been a people pleaser, so historically I’d have sat there, taken it and likely apologised for it all. I’m trying to build up the confidence to stand up for myself.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:38

Newbutoldfather · 24/12/2025 21:34

I think it is a bit strange a mother buying her adult son a t shirt referencing his penis!

But, it’s definitely not a big deal. As a friend I would just have said ‘that’s nice’ and moved on.

(I voted YABU although I think your friend is too).

I did say to her if it had a picture of a penis is completely agree with her. But an innuendo I didn’t see the issue with as long as it was something he was happy to receive. If it would have made him feel uncomfortable of course I wouldn’t buy it, or if it wasn’t his humour, or if he was younger.

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Itsseweasy · 24/12/2025 21:36

I can admittedly be a bit of a prude when it comes to slogan t-shirts as I don’t like little kids seeing them out and about - but that one really made me laugh 😂
Your “friend” sounds like she has some issues going on somewhere as what she was suggesting is way more offensive!
I hope your son loves his new T-shirt and that your friend does a bit of self reflection.

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:36

Butchyrestingface · 24/12/2025 21:30

Does he wear these innuendo style t-shirts out and about in public? I can imagine getting one for a friend (probably not offspring) on a MUG but not something they would be potentially wearing as clothes.

He doesn’t really go out very much so it tends to be worn around the home. But he will wear them if he goes out with friends.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:35

suburberphobe · 24/12/2025 21:24

Technically nothing wrong with you buying it as his mum, but I'd rather my child - even as an adult - didn't walk round with something like that on their t-shirt.

I agree there @Alexadidzammomarryjackie

Fair enough - we are all different and have different senses of humour. As long as he’s not wearing it in an inappropriate situation, I see it as his choice. As long as he’s respectful to people, I can separate him wearing it because he thinks people will get a laugh.

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Newbutoldfather · 24/12/2025 21:34

I think it is a bit strange a mother buying her adult son a t shirt referencing his penis!

But, it’s definitely not a big deal. As a friend I would just have said ‘that’s nice’ and moved on.

(I voted YABU although I think your friend is too).

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:33

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I’ve posted on here about the situation before, and under a different name. It’s so very complicated and I have no self confidence after years of emotional abuse. I don’t want to derail this thread talking about that, but I promise I’ve started taking steps to get ducks in a row etc.

I don’t really have any close/real friends, so she’s one of a handful I thought was a good friend.

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Butchyrestingface · 24/12/2025 21:30

Does he wear these innuendo style t-shirts out and about in public? I can imagine getting one for a friend (probably not offspring) on a MUG but not something they would be potentially wearing as clothes.

suburberphobe · 24/12/2025 21:24

Technically nothing wrong with you buying it as his mum, but I'd rather my child - even as an adult - didn't walk round with something like that on their t-shirt.

I agree there @Alexadidzammomarryjackie

Yearsafter · 24/12/2025 21:23

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:20

Iocanepowder · 24/12/2025 21:14

This.

I once bought a similar tshirt for my brother. How can any sane person think that?

Right? I thought I’d misheard to start with. I can’t even comprehend how sick you’d have to be to do that so found it really offensive she was genuinely asking me.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:19

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No he stayed at the party. I have no issue with that as it’s only 3 houses away and it was a wider group of friends there too.

He doesn’t respect me, and can be a bit sexist at times in his attitude - our relationship is long over and I hope to divorce him next year. Long and complicated so not relevant to the question about the discussion with my friend.

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MCF86 · 24/12/2025 21:15

I wouldn't have bought it, but I wouldn't feel the need to comment either

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:15

Thank you for making me feel better all. Yes, the t-shirt isn’t in good taste but in an ironic kind of way we find it amusing. We’d be boring if we all liked the same things! I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t actually wrong to be buying it, regardless of whether others like the actual t-shirt!

I am about to get my last couple of jobs done ready tomorrow, then get an early night for once.

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Iocanepowder · 24/12/2025 21:14

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/12/2025 21:12

Really weird that she asked if you were shagging him. Like give a wide berth weird.

This.

I once bought a similar tshirt for my brother. How can any sane person think that?

Yearsafter · 24/12/2025 21:13

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Theroadt · 24/12/2025 21:12

I think she was being a bit judgy and rude. That said I think it is a vulgar joke I wouldn’t buy my own son, but it’s certainly not a safeguarding issue.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/12/2025 21:12

Really weird that she asked if you were shagging him. Like give a wide berth weird.

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:11

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I said this in my op. I told her that I didn’t need this after a very long day so I was going to go home and get an early night as I was exhausted. She clearly wasn’t letting it go, and I didn’t want there to be a weird atmosphere for everyone else.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:10

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We have never ever had any sort of fall out or disagreement before - I was genuinely shocked at her comments, I thought she was joking to start with.

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:09

Ladymuckypuddle · 24/12/2025 21:00

I voted YABU op because that t-shirt sounds grim and your sons humour belongs in the 70s.

My worry here is if he has approval from his mother how is he treating women in life?

It’s all worn in an ironic way. He has respect for women.

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