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Had a disagreement with a friend this evening - who is unreasonable?

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Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 20:55

I’ll preempt this by saying I am absolutely shattered after a ridiculously busy few weeks and very little sleep the last 2 nights, so I might just be being sensitive!

My middle son turns 18 in 2 weeks time. He and I have an identical sense of humour - a bit dirty, enioy dark jokes, find innuendo funny, etc. he has a few innuendo style t-shirts. I was showing my friend a picture of a t-shirt I have bought him for Xmas that I KNOW he will find hilarious and wear with pride - it has a picture of a cockerel on it with the words “stop staring at my cock”

My friend started telling me off and that it was completely inappropriate for a mum to buy that for her son. I explained it’s in a similar theme to stuff he already owns, and ones he’s asked for. I reminded her he’s about to turn 18. She asked me if I was shagging him (WTAF of course I’m not) and kept going on about his inappropriate it is. I tried explaining again about his humour and how I wouldn’t buy it for either of his brothers (20 & 14) because it’s not their sense of humour and inappropriate for the younger one. She was saying how she wouldn’t get it for her kids - I said that’s fine, no-one says she has to and it’s about tailoring it to the person.

She dropped it, but a minute later started again. She said that I’d mentioned reporting a major safeguarding concern to the school a few days ago (I hadn’t told her details as none of her business but I told her I had to report something truly awful I had been told about) and that I should be safeguarding my family too. I reminded her again he is pretty much an adult. I asked the other people at her party, one of whom is a secondary school teacher, they couldn’t see the issue and said it wasn’t a safeguarding concern in their opinion. I need up getting fed up of her going on about it so said I really don’t need this today after a busy day so I was going to go home, and left.

Now bear in mind too that her eldest son was joining in with some extremely outright sexual comments/rude games on New Year’s Eve 2 years ago (he was only just 19) and possibly the year before but I can’t be certain. Games like Cards Against Humanity, Bad People, etc. No innuendo needed with the stuff coming out for example. I pointed this out to her and she said it was completely different as he was older (13 months older to be exact).

So I sit here at home a little upset by her attitude but also wondering if she was right. I don’t think I’m wrong to get it - I agree it’s not in the best taste, or the wittiest joke in history, but that’s not what the discussion was about!

Mumsnet - I’m on the app so not sure if I can enable voting (I will try).. but AIBU?

YABU - it’s completely wrong for a mum to buy that t-shirt for a 17 year old about to turn 18, even if it is his sense of humour.

YANBU - as long as it’s what he wanted, there’s no issue here and your friend is being weird.

Thank you in advance.

OP posts:
Lulu1919 · 25/12/2025 08:05

Not something I'd buy for anyone and not something I'd like to see anyone wearing out of their home BUT it's none of her business and it's not a safeguarding issue !!

Owly11 · 25/12/2025 07:57

Stop explaining yourself to your friend. Just change the subject. Yabu for even entertaining her criticism of you.

Gilead · 25/12/2025 07:47

She sounds a tad unhinged!

OtterlyAstounding · 25/12/2025 07:43

BebbanburgIsMine · 25/12/2025 07:05

I think that’s a horrible , disgusting thing to buy your son, I’d be ashamed if I had an 18 year old son and he was wearing that.

If this was a dad buying his daughter a t-shirt with a cat on it saying “Stop staring at my p*y Mumsnet would be outraged. It’s no different for a mum to buy it for a son.

Honestly, this is a good point. If a dad bought that for his teenage daughter, it would seem quite inappropriate, and I might well wonder what exactly his relationship dynamic was with his daughter. It would come across as nearly predatory.

It doesn't have those same creepy vibes for me with a mother buying it for her son, but I guess I could understand the friend's reaction if she was trying to make a point, rather than seriously thinking OP was shagging her son. Although it still seems like an overreaction.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 25/12/2025 07:43

Alexadidzammomarryjackie · 24/12/2025 20:58

Technically nothing wrong with you buying it as his mum, but I'd rather my child - even as an adult - didn't walk round with something like that on their t-shirt.

This. Subjecting the people he will encounter (or more precisely: anyone who will see this him wearing this shirt) to that particular brand of „humour“ is something I personally certainly wouldn’t want to encourage.

NeelyOHara · 25/12/2025 07:35

The T-shirt sounds gross, I’d cringe if I saw someone wearing it. Like a junior Benny Hill or something.

ActiveTiger · 25/12/2025 07:27

Not something I would do with my kids but hey

EleanorReally · 25/12/2025 07:26

personally i wouldnt buy it but it is your choice, your son

Tpu · 25/12/2025 07:26

Lovelock1984 · 25/12/2025 07:15

I would go mental if my friend suggested I was sleeping with my son over a crass jokey tshirt. That is more of the issue and I would call her out on that disgusting comment. And honestly, all these uptight people commenting on the tshirt - he's 18, its a bit vulgar but so what? Get a life.

To which the reply is “Does it surprise you that people wonder what you’re up to when you are proudly starting a conversation about your adult son’s cock, and he’s wearing a tee inviting others to join the pair of you in that cutesy little chat? It’s all very very weird and enmeshed: psychologically, what’s in it for you and why are you being so angry and defensive about it?”

OtterlyAstounding · 25/12/2025 07:24

HeddaGarbled · 24/12/2025 23:11

But where could he possibly wear it without risking offence to bystanders?

If it's an 'around the house' shirt or nightwear, it would be fine.

Otherwise, I think it's rather confrontational in a way, for a man to wear something that references his 'cock' - even if it is in jest. I'm fine with that sort of humour in the home or amongst friends, so on a mug or pyjamas, but I wouldn't be happy for my son to represent himself that way in public.

OtterlyAstounding · 25/12/2025 07:17

YABU for encouraging your son to wear penis-themed clothing where the 'joke' is to draw attention to your son's 'cock' through a play on words - it's crass and crude, and makes a terrible first impression if worn out in public.

But your friend sounds rather unhinged in her response.

Lovelock1984 · 25/12/2025 07:15

I would go mental if my friend suggested I was sleeping with my son over a crass jokey tshirt. That is more of the issue and I would call her out on that disgusting comment. And honestly, all these uptight people commenting on the tshirt - he's 18, its a bit vulgar but so what? Get a life.

pictoosh · 25/12/2025 07:12

Being honest, I don't like slogan t-shirts or smut.
It's none of my business what other people enjoy.

Dozer · 25/12/2025 07:10

Crass t shirt, some people will think so but not say so it if he wears it out.

I don’t think it’s an appropriate gift from a parent to DC.

T shirts like that worn out is also a ‘male privilege’ thing - women who like that kind of humour would often not feel safe wearing it out due to unwanted male reactions.

Friend was not U to say she disliked it but was U to make a big deal of it and say those extreme things. Had she been drinking?

If it’s the first time she’s done anything like this and is otherwise a good friend, I’d get over it, especially since you say you don’t have many friends and have an abusive H.

Tpu · 25/12/2025 07:08

HomeTheatreSystem · 25/12/2025 06:55

The shagging your son comment alone should see her binned off by you. Is she always this stupid, or was she drunk?

This is probably right, the friend should have said nothing and just swerved OP in future.

SheepShankers · 25/12/2025 07:07

Sounds grim all round

OvernightBloats · 25/12/2025 07:05

Humour is so subjective - sometimes it is hard to understand, let alone share, why some people find some things funny (eg. Mrs Brown's boys!!)

Your friend was harsh in her comments to you and really shouldn't have said anything. Best thing she could have done would have been to change the subject and just acknowledge that there is no need to ask you to explain yourself.

I do think it is really weird, though, for you to buy your son a t-shirt referencing his cock. Very strange. When he wears it, people are bound to ask him about it and when he says that his mother bought it for him, I can imagine that some will think it weird as well.

BebbanburgIsMine · 25/12/2025 07:05

I think that’s a horrible , disgusting thing to buy your son, I’d be ashamed if I had an 18 year old son and he was wearing that.

If this was a dad buying his daughter a t-shirt with a cat on it saying “Stop staring at my p*y Mumsnet would be outraged. It’s no different for a mum to buy it for a son.

Tuesdayschild50 · 25/12/2025 07:03

Tell her to get her knickers out of a twist silly woman.
He is your son me and my sons laugh at funny rude cards they are 22 & 24 I'm glad we all have a sense of humour .
Don't fret about her silly opinions.

Rocknrollstar · 25/12/2025 07:00

Tillow4ever · 24/12/2025 21:09

It’s all worn in an ironic way. He has respect for women.

How does anyone know it’s ironic? Is he actually going to go out in it? Your friend is unreasonable but the t-shirt is awful

begone25 · 25/12/2025 06:59

I imagine she was implying that it was the kind of thing one might only buy for someone who you are in an intimate relationship with?! Might you have misunderstood her line of questioning?

HomeTheatreSystem · 25/12/2025 06:55

The shagging your son comment alone should see her binned off by you. Is she always this stupid, or was she drunk?

pictoosh · 25/12/2025 06:54

Tpu · 25/12/2025 06:52

Maybe OP accidentally touched a very raw nerve with her friend?

If she did, what of it?

Tpu · 25/12/2025 06:52

pictoosh · 25/12/2025 06:51

Think I agree with this.
OK, she didn't like the t-shirt. That's fine. What's not fine is talking to you like that at a social event, like her opinion just had to be aired and shoot you down. It's none of her business. To go so far as to say that to you is very arrogant.
Had she had a lot to drink?

Maybe OP accidentally touched a very raw nerve with her friend?

pictoosh · 25/12/2025 06:51

Robogob · 25/12/2025 00:41

I would immediately and permanently drop a friend who asked me if I was shagging my own son. I wouldn’t even care if it was meant as a joke.

Think I agree with this.
OK, she didn't like the t-shirt. That's fine. What's not fine is talking to you like that at a social event, like her opinion just had to be aired and shoot you down. It's none of her business. To go so far as to say that to you is very arrogant.
Had she had a lot to drink?

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