To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

We should always be honest about gender identity stuff, particularly with children to avoid future confusion. So of course YANBU. The film is fairly awful though so I wouldn’t recommend anyone to watch it!

..because I could potentially be disciplined at work and investigated by the police for refusing to pretend that a man is a woman? I'm actually quite happy to leave people alone if they leave me alone, but they won't. They want everyone to play along or face severe legal, social and economic sanctions.

I had the film on while cooking as seen it twice before. Clocked that scene too as wasn’t watching fully but listening heard a male doctor then when I glanced at the screen it was a man dressed as a woman.

Oh take a day off! Watching a nice Christmas film is not the moment for your anti trans views.
And then to come on here looking for a pat on the back….🙄

when you read those articles, forensically researched by Genevieve Gluck, who also managed to break into the fetish forum as part of her research; it really does boggle the mind that the Cass review is suggesting a PB trail. And Wes is going along with it.

that forum will be loving it.

you’ll be pleased to know that this precise definition is statutory RSHE as of September 2026.

we still have to be polite to these people thanks to the FWS judgement, but we can politely say, they’re men.

Why would you lie? What's the big deal?

Born a man? This seems to suggest that they are no longer a man, which you know to be not true.

Bit part as a Dr, not even listed in the main cast on the film's wiki. Not a famous actor at all.

Is this a well-known actor? I don’t know the film. If you know who it is, then I can see you trying to clarify things but if not, it’s such a non-issue. They could be a male actor playing trans or a male actor playing female or a trans actor who identifies as female or non-binary or whatever. Does if matter? Is it an important plot point?

I don't believe a man can 'become' a woman or vice-versa, but that doesn't stop me acknowledging that trans people exist.

"That woman sounds like a man"

"They're trans. They were born a man but want to be seen as a woman".

There's no lie there. Nobody has ever suggested that you lie to your children and claim that trans woman aren't born male. Do you honestly think there was an expectation to pretend that you didn't know what DS was talking about, to tell him that he was hearing things or that you had no idea why her voice was so deep?

All you've done is increase the chance of your kid getting into a load of unnecessary bother by repeating what you've said.

It’s a man who is dressed as a woman, he may think he is a woman, and call himself a woman, but he is a man.

yanbu.

I wouldn’t bother with all the “identifies” nonsense.
Just say factually “ yes it’s a man, attempting to dress up like a woman”.

I’m teaching my kids biological facts, that of course you can’t change sex.

You truthfully answered a question. Your DC were fine with your answer, so why do you need to ask if YABU @DungOnATwig ?

I can only assume nobody has said you were or weren't being unreasonable, but just wanted a chance to parrot your anti trans agenda on here.

Job done, so jog on darling.

I asked what the film is but it’s in the title. Duh.

Wait - so you made your comment, and no one said anything at all in response?
I'm sorry that your very important protest was ignored.

I presume given how your dd was typing immediately after you answered your DS’s question and thinks you were wrong to misgender this actor.
However would she as a lesbian have a relationship with a pre op transwoman.

If yes would that make her straight or if no, why not if she believes that transwomen are women

The obsession people have about this topic on mumsnet is weird and unhealthy. You make this a massive debate and massive problem when it just isn’t.
i would just say ‘biological lol ioóii
neh

You do realize that this only became an issue because people want to distract you from actual problems. Trans people have always existed. Their existence takes nothing away from yours. The whole propoganda is just a smoke screen.

Why would you lie to him?

Because it doesn't matter. Why does it affect you how people identify? It doesn't affect trans people that you don't identify as trans.

@GarlicBreadStan I genuinely don’t understand why some are so willing to think it doesn’t matter.
And why others eg @Ladyzfactor assume those of us who are concerned about this issue are unreasonable to be concerned. Or that it doesn’t affect everybody (not just those who say they are trans)