To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

i would have simply said It is a woman

Because men with a fetish for dressing up as women are insisting on using female only spaces, so it very much affects us

A better answer is, “think it’s a trans woman”

Or you could just say “yes it’s probably a trans person - man who believes he is a woman.” Doesnt mean you agree with it. You dont need to try and alienate your daughter.

I would have just said it was a man dressed as a woman because that's what it was. There have always been men dressed as women and women dressed as 'principal boy' in Christmas things, nothing new about that and no need to be so cross, 'fucking' this and that. It's not our fault you were displeased by what you saw and having to explain it to your son but, honestly, it was hardly a big deal. I'd have had no problem explaining.

Women are scrutinised mercilessly for their appearance.

Men, even the ones pretending to be women, don’t have that same pressure.

Trans people of course famously never have their appearance judged, ridiculed or criticized.

Trans people are allowed to be actors.

Trans people are allowed to appear in films.

Deciding a film is shit and "fuck that film" on the sole basis that a trans person appears for what sounds like a very brief background role is just transphobia.

There's no way it can be dressed up as legitimate GC concern.

I wish I could cherry pick the easy stuff and fuck the periods, period pains, hormonal issues, menopause, squeezing a human out of my vag, misogyny, pay gaps, fear of walking alone at night, fear of walking alone in an unfamiliar area, menopause, weight gain, sexism in the workplace etc etc etc

fuck it though. I have nice make up.

Sorry but this is absolute nonsense.

Trans people are routinely openly discussed on sites like this based on criticisms of their appearances in a lose-lose way.

Trans women who make efforts to pass are derided for either failing to pass or for ‘reducing’ womanhood to makeup and clothes. Trans women who make fewer efforts to pass, or are unsuccessful in doing so are mocked for that fact. Try looking for sneering references to male pattern baldness on this forum.

The experience of trans people is of being routinely subject to public ridicule or scrutiny of their appearance.

I've never seen such bitter nonsense.

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Because I get sick of men being praised for things women are torn down for?

Women are scrutinised mercilessly for their appearance.

Men, even the ones pretending to be women, don’t have that same pressure.

Look at Eddie Izzard. A woman would be destroyed by other women for dressing how he does but women fall over themselves to talk about his “amazing legs” and how amazing he is for wearing heels.

It’s internalised misogyny.

Is it? That's not my experience at all.

Maybe you should socialize with nicer people.

I think she means it made her cry?

This is not related to the trans actor, I'd imagine.

Two separate points

It’s pretty anti-trans to say ‘fuck that film’ for the mere fact of casting a trans actor in a minor role, don’t you think?

I think that in the context of this film there is really nothing to criticise about having a trans woman being the doctor. I am ‘gender critical’ and along with many people on Mumsnet believe that people can dress and present as they like but that there are limits such as single sex spaces, medicalisation of children and trans women in women’s sport.

In this particular scenario the person is a cardiologist I think and not making any points about being in women’s spaces or women’s sports or medicalising children. We get accused of wishing that trans people did not exist. This trans person is literally just doing their job in a film. So I really don’t think there should be any objection unless people think that trans people should be shut away and not seen anywhere.

Wow.
What a nasty, bitter, Pearl clutching fucking way to turn a compliment from one human being about another human being into something deeply murky.

You must be a joy to be around in person.
Fuck me, this is a cesspit of shite on this Christmas Eve.

I’d have said it’s a trans woman, which is a man who identifies as a woman. No need for a gender debate while watching a Xmas movie.

Fair enough but OP’s son did notice and asked a question.

OP wanted to know if she was reasonable in her answer.

I’ve watched that film about 3 times and that aspect never even registered.

'Two spirit' is a modern concept. There's a really interesting article about different Native American cultures here.
https://culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/toward-an-end-to-appropriation-of-indigenous-two-spirit-people-in-trans-politics-the-relationship-between-third-gender-roles-and-patriarchy/?fbclid=IwAR0W77WzvNhxQuxYYh1-kECudjoaxSmP7rnQR-zT21wZCm8DzXDKzQjuucA

A woman has to be outrageously beautiful for other women to comment.

A man just has to put lipstick on and he’s suddenly so devastatingly beautiful that we can’t plainly see he’s a man anymore.

How is it anti-trans to point out a biological fact?

Honestly it’s so boring now.

For reference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Root

"This kind of gushing sycophancy is reserved for men, exclusively."

I was pointing out that it's not. You might not say that to other women but many of us do.