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To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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DungOnATwig · 24/12/2025 01:10

Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

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LBFseBrom · 24/12/2025 10:28

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/12/2025 10:20

It’s not anti trans to recognise someone’s sex.

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I agree. I don't get why the op was so upset about it.

blankcanvas3 · 24/12/2025 10:28

Catch yourself on

DisappearingGirl · 24/12/2025 10:24

TelephoneWires · 24/12/2025 08:01

I think that in the context of this film there is really nothing to criticise about having a trans woman being the doctor. I am ‘gender critical’ and along with many people on Mumsnet believe that people can dress and present as they like but that there are limits such as single sex spaces, medicalisation of children and trans women in women’s sport.

In this particular scenario the person is a cardiologist I think and not making any points about being in women’s spaces or women’s sports or medicalising children. We get accused of wishing that trans people did not exist. This trans person is literally just doing their job in a film. So I really don’t think there should be any objection unless people think that trans people should be shut away and not seen anywhere.

I also agree with this entirely.

I do have some major concerns with gender ideology which are the same as the above poster.

But I have no problem with trans people existing, or being in films.

Also I like this film and have watched it twice and never noticed there was a trans actor in it!

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/12/2025 10:20

Ladyzfactor · 24/12/2025 01:54

It's been probably a whole day without a anti-trans post on this so I guess we got to put up some numbers. Some people have way to much time on their hands to care about other people's lives 🙄

It’s not anti trans to recognise someone’s sex.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/12/2025 10:19

I immediately noticed the doctor was male too and googled to confirm I was right.

TheEverlastingPorridge · 24/12/2025 10:18

OwlBeThere · 24/12/2025 02:38

The obsession people have about this topic on mumsnet is weird and unhealthy. You make this a massive debate and massive problem when it just isn’t.
i would just say ‘biological lol ioóii
neh

You would say what exactly 🤔?

My kids would think I was having a stroke if I said that

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 10:16

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:01

I know. I didn’t notice the actor was trans. Had to google them.

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Didn’t notice? 😂

ClairDeLaLune · 24/12/2025 10:16

I would have said - that’s a man who is dressing / styling himself in a way more typically associated with how women look, which is perfectly fine as both men and women should be able to look how they like. Trans ideology didn’t need to come into it.

Chafing · 24/12/2025 10:14

"Why do you automatically jump to the conclusion that answering her child’s question accurately is ‘anti trans’?"

The bit OP said about shoehorning in a booming voiced man in woman cosplay gave a little bit of a hint...

PortSalutPlease · 24/12/2025 10:12

there’s literally nothing you people won’t turn into a bigoted rant Hmm

Soontobe60 · 24/12/2025 10:08

WaffleParty · 24/12/2025 06:27

Oh take a day off! Watching a nice Christmas film is not the moment for your anti trans views.
And then to come on here looking for a pat on the back….🙄

Why do you automatically jump to the conclusion that answering her child’s question accurately is ‘anti trans’?
We all know that for someone to claim to be trans, they mean they do not want to be seen as the sex they actually are. That’s ok, it’s their choice. Nobody else has to agree.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:03

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 24/12/2025 10:03

It is a bit of a pants film, nothing to do w the trans actor

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I liked it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:03

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/12/2025 10:02

At the end of the day, "transgenderism" is simply a new version of sexism. It's not unreasonable to be disappointed when a film includes casual sexism or racism, nor to feel it spoils that film somewhat.

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Spoiled it how?

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 24/12/2025 10:03

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 09:50

You’ll be missing a great film if you do.

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It is a bit of a pants film, nothing to do w the trans actor

PlanetJanette · 24/12/2025 10:02

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/12/2025 10:02

At the end of the day, "transgenderism" is simply a new version of sexism. It's not unreasonable to be disappointed when a film includes casual sexism or racism, nor to feel it spoils that film somewhat.

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So trans actors should just not be cast in movies then?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/12/2025 10:02

marthasmum · 24/12/2025 08:57

Thank you - said it better than me!

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At the end of the day, "transgenderism" is simply a new version of sexism. It's not unreasonable to be disappointed when a film includes casual sexism or racism, nor to feel it spoils that film somewhat.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:01

SoulSearchBeHonest · 24/12/2025 10:00

I was replying to another poster who asked who the actor was.

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I know. I didn’t notice the actor was trans. Had to google them.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 24/12/2025 10:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 09:55

I didn’t notice.

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I was replying to another poster who asked who the actor was.

Chafing · 24/12/2025 09:58

DungOnATwig · 24/12/2025 09:46

For the clearly hard of thinking, the "fuck that film" bit was nothing to do with the shoehorned in booming-voiced man in woman cosplay and was re: us not seeing the ending coming and being distraught 😭

Funny how kids see right through this shite though innit.........

Right, sprouts to score! Merry xmas all!

"the shoehorned in booming-voiced man in woman cosplay"
"This shite"

This is a horrible post and it exposes your real agenda. It genuinely is about disliking trans people for you, isn't it. That person wasn't making a political point, being in a woman's space or anything. They were just an actor acting while being trans.

PlanetJanette · 24/12/2025 09:58

DungOnATwig · 24/12/2025 09:46

For the clearly hard of thinking, the "fuck that film" bit was nothing to do with the shoehorned in booming-voiced man in woman cosplay and was re: us not seeing the ending coming and being distraught 😭

Funny how kids see right through this shite though innit.........

Right, sprouts to score! Merry xmas all!

In what way was the character ‘shoe-horned in’?

And Rebecca Root may have a deeper voice but there is nothing booming about her voice at all.

The ‘just stating facts’ mask is slipping.

KimHwn · 24/12/2025 09:58

I think you were conforming to gender stereotyping by calling a man a lady just because he had long hair and false eyelashes. So short haired women with no make up are male presenting?
Honestly, you think you're fighting the good fight by having an argument with yourself in your living room, but all you've done is confirm that if a man wears makeup, he must think he's a woman. That's so sexist and damaging.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 09:55

SoulSearchBeHonest · 24/12/2025 09:52

It's Rebecca Root who was born male and now identifies as female in a relationship that some call lesbian with a biological female. A fairly well known actor.

In the 2019 film the trans individual Rebecca plays a doctor.

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I didn’t notice.

PlanetJanette · 24/12/2025 09:54

MyLimeGuide · 24/12/2025 09:42

Good for you! Merry Christmas and thanks for the heads up to avoid that film! Xx

Why will you be avoiding it?

SoulSearchBeHonest · 24/12/2025 09:52

VashtaNerada · 24/12/2025 05:28

Is this a well-known actor? I don’t know the film. If you know who it is, then I can see you trying to clarify things but if not, it’s such a non-issue. They could be a male actor playing trans or a male actor playing female or a trans actor who identifies as female or non-binary or whatever. Does if matter? Is it an important plot point?

It's Rebecca Root who was born male and now identifies as female in a relationship that some call lesbian with a biological female. A fairly well known actor.

In the 2019 film the trans individual Rebecca plays a doctor.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 09:50

MyLimeGuide · 24/12/2025 09:42

Good for you! Merry Christmas and thanks for the heads up to avoid that film! Xx

You’ll be missing a great film if you do.

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