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To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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DungOnATwig · 24/12/2025 01:10

Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

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Jaxhog · 24/12/2025 11:15

It would have been fine, except you qualified it. Just say 'yes, dear, it's a man'.

Okiedokie123 · 24/12/2025 11:13

GarlicBreadStan · 24/12/2025 02:22

Because it doesn't matter. Why does it affect you how people identify? It doesn't affect trans people that you don't identify as trans.

Interesting......... so despite the fact that there is I think? a trans day, week, month of visibility and that we are endlessly being told by the "trans community" (which is in no way a community) that those of us who object to it are "destroying their lives" and lots of other hyperbole........you are arguing that actually the fact that most of us dont identify (or in anyway support the trans cult) doesnt affect a trans persons life. Also as I said in another comment - look up "obfuscation"

The trans cult (because it is a cult) massively affects all of our lives whether male or female in so many ways. It permeates almost every aspect of day to day life in the Western world atm. Have a read/watch of books/videos and you will soon know but Im guessing you'd rather not confront the facts - should you wish to........
Trans by Helen Joyce
Irreversible damage by Abigail Shrier
Fair play by Sharron Davies
Many others also available.

runningonberocca · 24/12/2025 11:12

rcerrc ex eerer rce

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 11:10

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 11:08

Because he was very clearly a man, so I find it funny when people say they couldn’t tell. There are a rare few who could ‘pass’ as women, although usually once they speak and you see more of them, it’s still obvious that they’re men. In this case, he is very obviously a man.

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I’ve looked at photos on Google because of this thread. Passes for a woman, to me. I’ve seen more masculine looking female born actresses. Angelica Houston, Tilda Swinton, for example.

TheKeatingFive · 24/12/2025 11:09

I haven't watched it. I like both leads, so would be open to it, but the premise sounds dumb as rocks.

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 11:08

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:56

Do tell me what’s so funny. You’re suggesting I’m lying? Why? I didn’t know about the actor until I read this thread.

Because he was very clearly a man, so I find it funny when people say they couldn’t tell. There are a rare few who could ‘pass’ as women, although usually once they speak and you see more of them, it’s still obvious that they’re men. In this case, he is very obviously a man.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 24/12/2025 11:07

AhBiscuits · 24/12/2025 10:38

God I hate that film. A whole film concocted to match a line from a song. I rolled my eyes so hard when the penny dropped that I saw my brain.

Oh my god! I feel so stupid now!! 🙈🙈

TheKeatingFive · 24/12/2025 11:03

Gender non conforming people have always existed.

Deciding that gender non conforming people are 'really' the opposite sex in some way, or that 'gender identity' should trump sex when it comes to the classification of male/female is a very recent development.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 11:00

“And also no trans people have not always existed.”

How is this known?

Okiedokie123 · 24/12/2025 10:58

Ladyzfactor · 24/12/2025 02:30

You do realize that this only became an issue because people want to distract you from actual problems. Trans people have always existed. Their existence takes nothing away from yours. The whole propoganda is just a smoke screen.

I am at odds with your comment in so many ways. For starters, any response that starts with "you do realise" is bothersome because its so incredibly rude and patronising.
And also no the trans debate isnt a distraction from real problems - we are all aware of those issues as well. It isnt one or the other.

And also no trans people have not always existed.

And no again - because yes actually the existence of trans people does take away from the rest of us. In lots of ways.

I recommend you look up the word "obfuscation" because like many others who hold your perspective on this topic you are good at it.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:56

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 10:50

🤣🤣🤣

Do tell me what’s so funny. You’re suggesting I’m lying? Why? I didn’t know about the actor until I read this thread.

BunnyLake · 24/12/2025 10:51

I’d have just said yes it’s a man dressed up as a woman and left it at that but I don’t understand what your lesbian dd has to do with anything?

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 10:50

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:29

No, I didn’t 🤷‍♀️

🤣🤣🤣

Hobnobswantshernameback · 24/12/2025 10:50

And they all stood up and clapped....
🙄

Eyeshadow · 24/12/2025 10:48

I don’t really see the issue.

When my DD used to ask things I’d just be honest and say they were either born a man or they’re a woman but has a deep voice.

It’s not offensive to be honest to your child.

cantbearsed247 · 24/12/2025 10:47

slashlover · 24/12/2025 07:28

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

They identify as a different gender, hence transGENDER and the change away from transexual.

Did you miss the whole TWAW thing? Besides gender and sex seem now to have basically come to mean the same thing, even though they aren't. Gender is just a meaningless set of cultural stereotypes.

But no problem with the trans actor in the film, the film was mostly disappointing IMO though and i really regretted paying to see it at the cinema.

EchoedSilence · 24/12/2025 10:43

PlanetJanette · 24/12/2025 09:54

Why will you be avoiding it?

Transphobia. But oh on, there's none of that on MN.

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 10:43

francii · 24/12/2025 10:39

Your poor daughter.

Quite the opposite. Having a mother that doesn’t buy into trans ideology that is homophobic, is a good thing for her daughter being as she is a lesbian.

Sunshineo · 24/12/2025 10:41

‘DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.’

I don’t understand what happened. Ds asked, you confirmed, dd typed ‘furiously’ and then you cried because it’s a sad film?

francii · 24/12/2025 10:39

Your poor daughter.

AhBiscuits · 24/12/2025 10:38

God I hate that film. A whole film concocted to match a line from a song. I rolled my eyes so hard when the penny dropped that I saw my brain.

littleburn · 24/12/2025 10:35

Parsleyforme · 24/12/2025 10:32

You could’ve just said it’s a man dressed as a woman. I bet you’re a hoot at pantomimes

Part of the joke at pantos is that the men in dresses are evidently not women. No one is having to sit there po faced pretending that they are.

littleburn · 24/12/2025 10:33

Oh course you are unreasonable OP. Anything other than chastising your child for not instantly believing the person is a woman is, of course, transphobic. Correctly describing a trans woman as a man who believes themselves to be a woman is also deeply transphobic.

Parsleyforme · 24/12/2025 10:32

You could’ve just said it’s a man dressed as a woman. I bet you’re a hoot at pantomimes

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 10:29

TooMuchStop · 24/12/2025 10:16

Didn’t notice? 😂

No, I didn’t 🤷‍♀️

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