To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

I now the actor in question has now ben identifed and is trans but I'm not clear why you couldn't just say 'yes it's a man. Some men choose to have long hair and fake eyelashes' why turn it into a trans issue. We have gone so far backwards in terms of gender stereotyping. In the 80's lots of men had long hair and wore make up. They weren't trying to be women.

While playing at being a woman.

To be fair, the OP's daughter may be a new style lesbian who sleeps with trans women. Some women do call themselves lesbians and still say TWAW. I'm not saying I agree with them, but they do exist.

Good god! You’d put your beliefs above your relationships with your children?!

Were they playing a male doctor or female doctor? Was the doctor supposed to be trans?

My position is not deep - sex matters and I am not watching TV or film with trans characters.

Well said.

I disagree. Im a woman with two adult daughters and we all disagree. Its just not a problem for us. Its shocking to me to see the endless “look at me I hate and fear trans people” posts on mumsnet. Its like hearing about people who are afraid of brown haired or blue eyed people. Its just an absurd rage about nothing.

The OP was the sort of performative “then they all clapped” crap mumsnet hates on any ither topic than trans stuff. Let OP tell her child whatever she wants? Who gives a fuck. She will come whining back in a few years when some people in her social circle or her gay daughter cut her off because they are trans or they love their trans friends more than they enjoy her spiteful company. Then she will be all “poor poor pitiful me.”

God its so tedious! Aren’t there real world problems in your universe? In mine there are! Abortion rights. Immigrant’s rights. Civil rights. Climate change. Women’s rights. Children’s rights. Trans people don’t pick my picket or take my rights. But I can tell you who do: billionaires, fascists, misogynists, evangelicals, trumpets, reform, neo nazis, and the sex police.

If you’re bored with my points, which you obviously can’t answer, then maybe don’t quote me. 😂 You’re not bored though, you just don’t want to be challenged.

"nbow lives as a woman" is a massive lie though. No man lives as a woman.

My kids risk alienating me if they ever claim men can be women and therefore that women's and LGB rights don't matter.

This person was simply playing the role of a doctor. It's not that deep.

Personally I don't live having ideology rammed down my throat, full stop, but more so when it is an ideology that I despise. I feel like gender ideology is being constantly rammed down my throat, so I will reject it 100%.

Secondly, by definition, a "trans actor" (let's assume FtM but obvs it works the other way as well) is going to be -

(1) a woman playing a male character

or
(2) a woman playing a trans'man' character

Either which was I am not interested in tv or film with trans characters, nor made by the sorts of people who wish to make tv or film with trans characters, nor tv or films which are confusing (because we don't know whether the character is supposed to be a masculine woman, a man, or a trans'man').

Indeed

It's so boring listening to the same trans arguments pretty much daily on here.

No to me and some others on the thread. Maybe because we’re not particularly looking for trans actors 🤷‍♀️

What does living as a woman mean? What do women ‘do’ that makes their life, ‘living as a woman’. It’s being a woman that means you live as one. Men aren’t women so therefore how can they live as a woman?

But what does 'living as a woman' even mean? Once you get into these conversations, you start enforcing gender stereotypes, which I'm not sure why anyone would want to do.

Same but then again I am clearly much more 'life's too short to worry about the lifestyle of others' than the OP.

Very clearly a man.

Allow your child to form their own opinions as they get older rather than enforcing yours. A simple 'it's someone who was born a man but now lives as a woman' would have sufficed. You're not right just because you think you are and you risk alienating your children with your views. If you wish to share your views make sure you give the other side. Some people believe x but some believe y.

Why wouldn’t they?

Last Christmas is my favourite Christmas film and I’ve seen it 8 times yet didn’t click that the doctor was trans…😆

Did you know that there was a "trans actor" in the film before you chose to watch it? If so why did you watch it?

My 5 year old niece shouted extremely loudly at the pantomime dame , that’s not a lady , it’s a man! As I slid down my seat embarrassed 🤣 but she wasn’t wrong of course !

Unfortunately, as I have explained up thread, parents need to have these conversations with their 11 year old as they head into or are already in year 7.

I’d have just said “that is a man” and moved on, don’t think there’s much more to say to an 11 year old. I’m not prepared to lie about people’s sex either.
Your DD is a lesbian = not sleeping with men, she knows exactly what a man is even if she doesn’t want to admit that yet!