To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

So are some females. But fwiw I experienced SA from actual men that weren't trans. I believe that if someone feels strongly that they are the wrong sex and goes through the horrendous surgery to achieve it they fully deserve to be called a woman. A man that just dresses like a woman is a drag artist. They've always been around.

This. Can’t believe someone would miss out on plays, films, tv because they happen to have a trans actor.
Do they apply the same to all of the arts and literature and avoid anything created by anyone whose views/opinions/ideology you disagree with?
That would result in a very empty life indeed.

Or is it just trans-people they object to?

Some of the comments on this thread are harmful to the GC cause, because they are actually proving the TRAs' point. It's one thing to not want trans people in spaces designed for the opposite sex. It's quite another to complain about their very existence.

I disagree. Im a woman with two adult daughters and we all disagree. Its just not a problem for us. Its shocking to me to see the endless “look at me I hate and fear trans people” posts on mumsnet. Its like hearing about people who are afraid of brown haired or blue eyed people. Its just an absurd rage about nothing.

The OP was the sort of performative “then they all clapped” crap mumsnet hates on any ither topic than trans stuff. Let OP tell her child whatever she wants? Who gives a fuck. She will come whining back in a few years when some people in her social circle or her gay daughter cut her off because they are trans or they love their trans friends more than they enjoy her spiteful company. Then she will be all “poor poor pitiful me.”

God its so tedious! Aren’t there real world problems in your universe? In mine there are! Abortion rights. Immigrant’s rights. Civil rights. Climate change. Women’s rights. Children’s rights. Trans people don’t pick my picket or take my rights. But I can tell you who do: billionaires, fascists, misogynists, evangelicals, trumpets, reform, neo nazis, and the sex police.

No to me and some others on the thread. Maybe because we’re not particularly looking for trans actors 🤷‍♀️

Transphobia. But oh on, there's none of that on MN.

I agree. I don't get why the op was so upset about it.

there’s literally nothing you people won’t turn into a bigoted rant

So trans actors should just not be cast in movies then?

"the shoehorned in booming-voiced man in woman cosplay"
"This shite"

This is a horrible post and it exposes your real agenda. It genuinely is about disliking trans people for you, isn't it. That person wasn't making a political point, being in a woman's space or anything. They were just an actor acting while being trans.

Do you see anything ‘anti-trans’ in saying ‘fuck that film’ for nothing more than casting a trans actor?

Omg bbz you were sooooo brave and sooooo right!

Its utterly nauseating when bigots come on here already under zero illusion they are BU, to disingenuously "ask" if they were BU just so they can bask in being told how wonderful they are.

Bet you couldn't wait to come and post after that exchange.

Its Christmas eve, instead of seeking validation from a bunch of like minded harridans on the internet like youre 12 years old, go outside and engage.

If you are in the UK, you know that simply is not true.

I’m pleasantly surprised by some of the responses on this thread. Mumsnet used to be an absolute cesspit of anti-trans sentiment but things seem to be changing.

’he felt being a woman’

therefore woman is defined by a feeling? Sounds like a great lesson to teach an 11yr old boy.

I wish I could cherry pick the easy stuff and fuck the periods, period pains, hormonal issues, menopause, squeezing a human out of my vag, misogyny, pay gaps, fear of walking alone at night, fear of walking alone in an unfamiliar area, menopause, weight gain, sexism in the workplace etc etc etc

fuck it though. I have nice make up.

Wow.
What a nasty, bitter, Pearl clutching fucking way to turn a compliment from one human being about another human being into something deeply murky.

You must be a joy to be around in person.
Fuck me, this is a cesspit of shite on this Christmas Eve.

How is it anti-trans to point out a biological fact?

Honestly it’s so boring now.

This sort of attitude always baffles me. There’s a bunch of people whose opinions you like and respect; then you find out they think differently to you on one specific subject. Why is your response “Oh no, they were terrible people all along!” rather than “Hmm, I wonder if there’s more to this topic than I realised?” This lack of curiosity and self-examination is not a good thing…

I find Mumsnet users to be an intelligent and understanding group until we get to the trans debate. On this subject it's a hotbed of intolerance with its inflexible and hate-filled TERF mentality. I despair.

Oh take a day off! Watching a nice Christmas film is not the moment for your anti trans views.
And then to come on here looking for a pat on the back….🙄

I can only assume nobody has said you were or weren't being unreasonable, but just wanted a chance to parrot your anti trans agenda on here.

Job done, so jog on darling.

You are right to explain that actor started life as a male - I like to be honest as well - but the "being someone they are not" is offensive to trans people and their loved ones. That is nót explaining the facts to your 11 year old, it is interpreting them and thus imprinting on your son. I would've said something like " he felt being a woman and decided to transition". Then wait for your 11 year old to process this information and start asking more questions.

You do realize that this only became an issue because people want to distract you from actual problems. Trans people have always existed. Their existence takes nothing away from yours. The whole propoganda is just a smoke screen.