To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

Do you not think women deserve privacy, dignity and respect in terms of single sex spaces? Or that girls and women should be allowed single sex sports? Or that awards designed specifically for females should remain single sex?

YANBU

Glad to see there are people with sense still in the world

So the rights of female only change rooms for women and girls, rape survivors like me and DV survivors 'don't matter'? Is that what you're saying?

I suggest you google something called the Urinary Leash. You will see that the Suffragettes were involved in getting female toilets so that women could PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY. How very little you actually know.

No, she would probably have been a suffragette because she was focussing on something that mattered - you know, like votes for women

So you're giving Rebecca Root a hard time?
Great actor. Was in the sitcom Boy meets girl.
They have quite a rich voice actually.
No idea why you are so proud of yourself.

@MrsSlocombesCat A man that just dresses like a woman is a drag artist. They've always been around.

Can't agree with you there. Maybe a cross dresser, but a drag artist is something else altogether. A grotesque parody of "femininity".

You would have been heckling the suffragettes and telling them to go home or something.

I've been mulling this one over since you wrote it, because on the surface it sounds so reasonable.

I've come to the conclusion that they may well deserve to be called a woman because of what they have gone through, but that calling them a woman actually relegates every woman to a set of stereotype behaviours and a body that can be manufactured by a skilled surgeon.

We wouldn't believe the woman with breast implants who insisted her breasts were real because she had always felt that she was born with bigger breasts; we'd probably laugh at anyone with roots showing in bleached hair who insisted they felt they grew up as a blond; and we'd likely pity a woman who we knew was 60 who swore she was 40 because a face-lift and makeup makes her look 40, and so on.

We would be furious at any person, especially a man, who tried to tell women that being a woman was defined by how they dressed and behaved and that dress and bahaviour was on the female end of the gender spectrum, yet we are expected to accept that male to female trans people define being a woman exactly that way.

No amount of cosmetic alteration can actually make someone something that they are not. Silicon implants don't give you more breast tissue, hair dye doesn't make your hair grow blond at the scalp, a face-lift doesn't alter your date of birth.

Surgery can only make someone a facsimile of one particular version of womanhood. I feel enormous sympathy for anyone who has put themself through reassignment surgery but I'm really sorry, I can't bring myself to call them a woman without, as a fairly "unfeminine" woman, feeling diminished and misunderstood myself.

I'll sit back now and wait for the usual suspects to tell me that my feelings are ridiculous and do not matter compared to the feelings of a male to female trans person.

On and fucking on. Go eat a mince pie or something.

There’s no ‘believe’ in truth. Children are already indoctrinated in school to ‘believe’ that people can change sex, girls are told that they should accept boys in their toilets, changing rooms and sports otherwise they’re bigots and transphobic (probably by the same posters on here calling us the same). Honesty is important!

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Again, why is that anti trans? It’s a statement of fact.

Not transphobic to call a man a man.

I think it's the difference between calling someone female as an adjective, and calling someone / a group "females" as a noun. I don't know anyone female who has an issue being described as female, but I would have an issue with being called "a female" or in a group being described as "those females".

I don't see it happen "IRL" very often at all, but it's popular with incels / misogynists, and it has a dehumanising feel to it - specifically when used as a noun.

Was it not a good film? Surely you
dont actually dislike seeing trans people in films even if you disagree with changing their sex/pronouns?

I quite like being a "danger", though. As I make red cabbage and pigs in blankets ready for me and my (non-existent 🙄) family to eat tomorrow 😆

*Go and smell some bus seats, you genital obsessed danger.
I bet your kids secretly (or not so secretly) hate you
*

Wow, there's a lot of testosterone aggression there. It's strange how it's always you people talking mentioning the word genitals. It's clear we're not the ones obsessed with genitals, you are.

Oh sure. You link to Jezebel, and are definitely not American. Sure, Jan!

Here's an image for you, that you may have come across, from the UK:

Are you seriously trying to suggest that there's a large enough cohort of trans people to skew average earnings? Incidentally, they're more likely to be unemployed

I don't think medical misogyny would disappear even if you could magically exist in a world without trans people.

@Catssuddenlyappear

Yeah, most people think calling women "females" is gross. It's fine as an adjective but absolutely foul to use it as a noun

Do they? (Spoiler: we don't) I'm a female. Because I'm an actual woman.

The only people who seem to object to the use of the word "female" are - men.

Also: "gross"? Mate, get back to US Trans Reddit with you.

Most women I know use the term female/females, so it would appear you're in the minority there. There is nothing 'gross' about the word.

Yeah, most people think calling women "females" is gross. It's fine as an adjective but absolutely foul to use it as a noun

Same! I watched it last week for the 3rd time & genuinely can’t remember having even noticed this? 🤔

The irony! 😂