To refuse to let DD vape?

I agree. Vapes should never have been made available outside of pharmacies.

Like PP, I’m amazed you are so passive. You don’t need medical or scientific training to know that inhaling chemicals is a bad idea, and even worse for a growing child.

I’m sorry OP, this is really poor parenting.

Popcorn lung isn’t a thing from vaping, the chemical that causes it is banned here
cigarettes still contain it

In my conversations with an undertaker recently she was speculating as to how quickly vaping would be banned as from her perspective she is seeing loads of young women dead with pulmonary embolism. It also leads to popcorn lung (totally incurable), retinal embolism leading to blindness. Why in god’s name is she doing this to herself. Literally better for her to smoke

vaping is worse than smoking. Theres no way I’d be encouraging this. I would say absolutely not and make it as difficult as possible to enable this. Hopefully she will see sense before it ruins her 16 year old lungs!

A 100% no from me. No one smokes or vapes in our house or garden. I’ve zero tolerance.

Vaping is so insidious, it creeps up on you until you’re sucking on it morning to night. I’m three weeks free, using nicotine patches has been so easy. Perhaps agree to buy her patches to help her stop.

Disgraceful parenting. Firstly to have not nipped it in the bud and now your husband actively encouraging it. How anyone can think vaping is safe long term is beyond me. Shameful.

This is depressing.

But it's bad for your health and allowing the DD to vape in her room would be tacitly encouraging her bad habit.

No sorry, not in my house. I’m incredibly grateful never to have faced this but I think you’re allowed to say your house should be free of this utter shite. Agree with reporting the shop.

I agree with you

My teenager vapes. I buy them for them. Hear me out.
I work on substance misuse, I see the damage illegal vapes do. The ones that contain THC and nitrazines etc.
Teenagers will tend to do things behind your back if you condemn it. I would rather know what is in the vape than them using one that they got from a friend or an illegal one.
We have tapered down from 2% nicotine to 1% and recently to liquid that doesn't contain nicotine so they will stop soon, hopefully 🤞🏻

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11813728/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93y82e9j90o.amp

I've posted the links so you understand my reasoning. Bear in mind I work with this on a daily basis.

Absolutely not, I have 2 teens and the vaping would not happen full stop, let alone in the house.

I absolutely would not! Making her go outside makes it harder for her which deters her affecting her health as much.

Why haven't you reported these shops?

Why on earth does your DH want to allow this?

You need to report them to trading standards

How do you even raise a child that gets to age 14 and does something like this? Were there no parenting happening in the house? Were the kids just allowed to do whatever they want and parents just didn’t bother. I don’t know a single teen who does the things that I read on here. Trying for 2 years op, since she was a little 14yo? I’m truly baffled

I vape. I wish I never started. I can’t believe anyone would think allowing a child to vape was ok? Inside or outside. Confiscate the ones she has and make sure she has no money to buy them. How the hell has this gone on for 2 years? You have to really put your foot down now. You can do it.

There is also now research coming out how vapes wreak havoc on your oral microbiome. I work in dentistry and we have seen a huge rise in teenagers and young 20 year olds coming in with acute ulcerative gingivitis. Something that was common in the 70's and earlier when people were chain smoking. Cases of AUG lowered significantly until recently when vaping became popular. Put it this way, I've worked in dentistry for 15+ years and I can't remember seeing a case of AUG in that age group until recently. Now I see 2 cases a week sometimes. The smell and swelling from the gums is absolutely awful.

I have a really serious fragrance allergy. Vapes are made with food flavoring, much of which is actually artificial fragrance.

My daughter can’t even buy whatever makeup she wants because bringing it in the house is dangerous. She has to buy things that are safe for me. If she brought a vape into the house it would be wwiii here.

so no, I don’t think you should let her vape. What she is doing is dangerous for her and other people.

Australia is one. Nicotine vapes can only be bought from chemists after a pharmacist consult. (my state anyway).

However, we've now got a huge black market. Tobacconist shops popping up everywhere & openly selling. DS's 13 year old friend vapes. Started at 12.

Police have finally raided these shops where I am. People are desperately pleading on FB community pages for where to get them, almost like they were pleading for food & ranting about how horrible and unfair it is. It's pathetic.

Unfortunately the crims have gone to delivery mode & you just have to pm the FB page admin for the info. A smoke shop I pass every day was raided & has become an 'eithic supermarket' overnight.

Laws will only work if there's consequences for the buyers and sellers, including staff. Right now people vape openly.

I would stick to the no vaping in house or garden rule

Yanbu , it would be a hard no from me

I don’t get it either. I had to work really hard at stopping smoking due to my nicotine addiction. Why anyone would choose to vape having never smoked is beyond me!