To feel like I don’t like men anymore

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I have a decent husband and two lovely sons. If I was single though, I wouldn’t bother dating!

I’ve spent my whole career in a male dominated industry. They’re mostly self-serving and shallow! The majority aren’t faithful to their wives either!

The very best men are only as good as average women! 😂

I could have said exactly this about my original home town in the midlands - the vast majority of the men are still stuck in the 70s and 80s - and all the 60 something football yobs of the late 70s are now bald, fat, mainly lazy , mouthy and big fans of Farage!!

Most violence against people are caused by men. I learned early on what some men are like. I met one that was downright evil. I was 21

It’s unlikely they “rely” on their husbands to do those tasks - the husbands simply do those tasks.

And if they do “rely” on their husbands for some tasks then I am sure the husbands rely on their wives for tasks.

Couples working together is not the same as saying women need male romantic partners to function in life.

A what do you disagree about? Do you think your friends can’t manage to check their own oil?

I don't want to sound like a woman hating arsehole from my last post, so I'll write about disappointing men too just to make it fair: I come from a poor, working class area in the North East where men are basically unevolved toddlers. DA is common and a normal part of life. Despite being ugly slugs in tracksuit bottoms or ill-fittng jeans, working MW in a factory, doing nothing but drinking and living off takeaways, and barely being able to string together a coherent sentence without swearing, they think they're God's gift and commnet about and critique women. They tell the most unfunny and vulgar jokes whilst holding court in the pub. These are 40+ year old men (I'm 33). Boys at college also "rated" girls despite being nothing to look at themselves. I've met middle class wanky men as well through work and uni- they're not as uncouth, but seem to think they have some sort of authority and are very entitled.

For me, unfortunately I'm only sexually attracted to men. Even more unfortunately, physical attraction is very important for me- I have to fancy them. I've barely met a single man I've fancied who hasn't been a weirdo, arrogant, a sexual deviant, a "man-slag" who's slept with half the women (and sometimes men) in the town/city, boring, pretentious, chasing some sort of stupid pipe dream or just a straight up arsehole. The one lovely one, who is also in a successful band, has an equally lovely girlfriend. Go figure 🙄 I'll have to just pray I get lucky wont I?Luckily I don't live in my crap hometown anymore.

I'm 100% like both of you. I have some lovely female friends and my favourite boss was a woman, but although I dress feminine and wear makeup etc, I'm not at all a girly girl personality wise, and yes, "girly" women always seem to dislike me. Working in a hive of women, such as in an office, is my idea of hell. I don't give a shit about their kids or their DH's (who always seem to be shit, funnily enough). I don't want to hear about their period cramps or their diets. They just have mind numbingly boring lives that revolve around their kids, their house, gossiping and moaning. I want to talk about music, news topics etc. The women I do get along with tend to be the "tough" types or the alternative types.

Completely disagree. And that’s quite patronising!

I don’t they’re actually relying on them. I think they’re giving them a tiny job so they feel useful. Like you would with a child.

Oh gosh. No - I was saying that none of my married female friends do it. They expect their husbands to do it.

That was my point.

I can't think of many things easier than checking the oil level in a car. Why is it something you expect men to do? Does the Y chromosome have some secret code or something.

Wait until you are in your 40's and they've mostly divorced; you'd be surprised what women can do if the man in their life doesn't constantly need to feel needed.

I’m surprised at this, because if I think of any of my male friends off the top of my head, or my DP, I’m 99% sure they would all have intervened in this scenario.

I get your point, but my point is that many women I know rely on their husbands to do a lot.

No one’s paying someone to light the fire or check the oil on their car.

Exactly @Beesd - at least acknowledge maternity care and female health care is appalling and fight to fix it when voting.

I always thought it was a myth that men did not want children as much as women. They clearly benefit more, in pay, status, joy, plus don't have their bodies affected much, don't get mummy-tracked at work and don't have to do most of the slog (in the UK, different in some more gender equal countries).

I never really wanted children and when I moved here it was a hard no given the state of pregnancy care (you don't even get help at home after which you do in my home country), post-bird care, and work penalty. Many of my childfree friends say that they would have had children if they'd been male. I think young women are finally waking up to the reality, where men, as usual are lagging behind in their opinions.

The message needs to change to: being parents is an equal partnership, with both doing 50% (men doing bit more in the first few years to make up for the toll on women's bodies). And if that is not on the cards, well then no babies.

Women on this thread are a bit older and have now reached a point where they have the option of living without a man, and many find they prefer that. If men want o live with women, perhaps some introspection would be good on their part instead of telling us our views are invalid.

No, we also point out that women who jump onto threads like this to defend their beloved men and cherished patriarchy of internalised misogyny. You missed something there.

Funnily enough I had a flat tyre this week.
I know how to change it myself, which is great as absolutely no one offered to help.

But if it had been a flat tyre.....according to this thread all of them would have been up helping.....🙄
What an awful thing for that young girl to go through, I bet she really appreciated you helping her

The more I see men, and I mean, truly see them, the more I am disappointed in them.
Yesterday evening coming home from work on the train I heard raised voices, one from a young woman and the other an older man, late 40s if I were to guess.
She was screaming at him to delete the photo. He got up and walked off with her following him again, loudly asking him to delete the photo.
Not one person intervened. Lots stared at their phones, others pretended they didn't hear and some just gawped. I walked up to them and asked her if she was ok, and no she wasn't. In near tears she said she had caught the man taking photos of her, without her permission and she wanted to delete them. At this point one man told him to delete them and he denied all knowledge, sitting there pretending he was dumb.
I asked the girl how old she was, she had just turned 18.
It was then that a vocal prick started shouting down the train how its a public space and the man can record what he likes. Not totally true as tfl conditions of carriage ban photography and the photos were clearly taken to harass the girl.
But the amount of men that were happy to look the other way, or excuse his behaviour. Truly appalling.
Men really do protect other men.

Wow, these guys really never touch grass do they?
More men than women want kids now https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-young-adults-without-children-men-are-more-likely-than-women-to-say-they-want-to-be-parents-someday/ so a lot of the "women just want kids then spas for the rest of their lives" posts need to have a rethink.
Clearly none of you have clue what birth and pregnancy does to a woman's body or brain for starters. Seeing the responses I can fully understand why women growing up today wouldn't want to marry or date men with the attitudes expressed here.

Oh mate …

It seems a very common thing on here for posters to pretend to be feminists just so they can rag on men, and then accuse anybody who call them out of being a man/misogynist.

It's very similar to when the trans lobby make bonkers claims and then accuse anybody that disagrees of being 'a transphobe'.