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MIL wants to arrive 6AM Xmas day

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Countrybumpkin19 · 23/12/2025 18:53

My MIL lives on her own and close by.
The last couple of years she has arrived at our house at 6AM on Christmas day as she likes to see my DDs open their stockings. She has never asked me if that's ok (though presumably spoke to my husband about it). I find it far too much - I don't want to have to talk to any visitors at 6AM when I'm half asleep (least of all my MIL) and see it as an invasion of privacy. As far as I see it stocking opening is intimate family time and I feel she enroaches on this.
This year I sent her a really nice text message asking if it would be ok if she arrived at 9AM so that we have a little bit of time first thing to get ready and prepare for the day (I'm doing all the cooking/hosting). She is then welcome to spend the rest of the day with us. She is really upset by this message and my husband thinks I'm being unreasonable (it has opened up a big argument between us). AIBU?

OP posts:
Boomer55 · 24/12/2025 10:02

Pereniallyannoyed · 23/12/2025 19:01

I’m going to presume the 7% of those who voted YABU are MIL’s.

I’m a Mother and a MIL and I don’t want to be going anywhere until lunchtime. 😉

For an overnight visitor, I don’t quite understand not wanting them to see the children open their presents - it’s hardly a private thing. 🙄

Simplelobsterhat · 24/12/2025 10:01

Mixed feelings about this one. My mil doesn't live close so every Christmas she is with us she stays the night, so is always there for stocking opening. I've never had the option of not having to communicate with visitors when still half asleep. Even if not Christmas we are likely to both head for the kettle in our pjs half asleep at the same time! It's never occured to me to mind, it's just something you have to quickly get used to with in laws who don't live close.

However, we've never had a stockings in bed tradition as ours are left downstairs for ease of filling, so kids go down to them (and the dh or I would want to make a coffee anyway!). I can see your tradition is more intimate.

Also, my parents live close so only come for the day, and I would be very surprised if they wanted to get up that early! If anything I often wished they came earlier as with kids up early, if mil isn't there it feels like we are waiting around for Christmas day to start. I'd welcome the extra child entertainment around earlier!

Ultimately if she is a guest she is rude to be dictating her timings (and 6.00 is very early, what if they've managed to sleep later and her arriving wakes them?). But I am surprised by how many people on this thread wouldn't even include them if they were staying the night, and think of stockings as a private thing.

HipHopDontYouStop · 24/12/2025 10:00

Poshsmith · 24/12/2025 09:36

I think arriving at 6am is a pitch to be invited to stay on Xmas Eve night…….in what live long day is arriving at that time appropriate.

Yes. I wonder if she’d bother to get up at 6am if she were staying over.

op, invite her to stay the Christmas Eve night. Wake everyone up at 4am or 5am to open presents. new family tradition. Insist afterwards that she helps out with cooking etc.

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2025 10:00

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:47

Oh your one with strong ‘boundaries’ I take it?

And you’re of the doormat variety I take it?!
I’d rather not be walked over thanks. I have respect for myself.

BadgernTheGarden · 24/12/2025 10:00

Meadowfinch · 24/12/2025 07:01

And the more reasonable view is that the MIL is selfish and entitled to think she has the right to disrupt her DILs sleep, arrive before DIL has even got out of bed, had a chance to shower, dress or have a drink. Before it is even light.

It is the height of ignorance and ill manners, and beyond comprehension.

I think she's out of bed if the kids are opening stockings, if they are doing it alone it might be nice for MIL to come and watch....

We are talking close family here, not some barely tolerated guest turning up hours early for Christmas dinner.

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:58

SillyNavyTiger · 24/12/2025 09:55

HOW is waking up a household at 6am on Christmas Day and expect to be served tea and looked after, HOW is that "helping out" exactly 😂

I know that some people have an extraordinary sense of self-importance, but pretending your presence is the greatest gift is a bit much 😂😂

OP will be up anyway, the child appears to be doing the waking, not MIL

Anyway, it won’t be long before small child stays in bed and MIL will be dead. Sorted

KeepAwayFromChildren · 24/12/2025 09:56

Countrybumpkin19 · 24/12/2025 07:18

My husband (as an only child) is extremely close to his mum and likes having her there. He genuinely doesn't understand why I have an issue with it.

I agree with you about it being 'intimate family time'. Having her there changes the dynamic totally and after all, she has done it all with her kids presumably so this is well into CF territory.

SillyNavyTiger · 24/12/2025 09:55

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 08:45

Fuck me, she helps you out but you bitch about her because she doesn’t dance to your tune. I think you’re being pretty awful.

HOW is waking up a household at 6am on Christmas Day and expect to be served tea and looked after, HOW is that "helping out" exactly 😂

I know that some people have an extraordinary sense of self-importance, but pretending your presence is the greatest gift is a bit much 😂😂

godmum56 · 24/12/2025 09:51

Countrybumpkin19 · 23/12/2025 18:53

My MIL lives on her own and close by.
The last couple of years she has arrived at our house at 6AM on Christmas day as she likes to see my DDs open their stockings. She has never asked me if that's ok (though presumably spoke to my husband about it). I find it far too much - I don't want to have to talk to any visitors at 6AM when I'm half asleep (least of all my MIL) and see it as an invasion of privacy. As far as I see it stocking opening is intimate family time and I feel she enroaches on this.
This year I sent her a really nice text message asking if it would be ok if she arrived at 9AM so that we have a little bit of time first thing to get ready and prepare for the day (I'm doing all the cooking/hosting). She is then welcome to spend the rest of the day with us. She is really upset by this message and my husband thinks I'm being unreasonable (it has opened up a big argument between us). AIBU?

sounds to me like you have a dh problem or at very least a communication problem....he and you have never discussed when his mum can arrive. Why did you not discuss it the first time?

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:47

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2025 09:39

🙄

Oh your one with strong ‘boundaries’ I take it?

ManyPigeons · 24/12/2025 09:47

Ask if her mother in law came over at 6am and how she’d have felt about it. Inform your husband that it’s your house and family too.

sittingonabeach · 24/12/2025 09:46

Turning up at 6am at someone’s house is ridiculous. Will she change the time as DC get older? DS was never an early riser but the older he got the later he surfaced.

If she lives 10 minutes away I am sure she shares many experiences with DC.

Are there other GPs who miss out on stockings experience.

Why do you do all the cooking/hosting @Countrybumpkin19

peppermintteadrinker · 24/12/2025 09:45

This thread is batshit.

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2025 09:39

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:26

Boundaries, a euphemism for ‘I want my own way’

I come from a family where multi generational living was normal, everyone has to rub along. It’s sometimes compromise, it’s sometimes great.

🙄

RedToothBrush · 24/12/2025 09:38

LittleBitofBread · 24/12/2025 09:33

In your family, maybe. Not everyone is the same, or do you not understand that?
My grandparents never expected to be present for all of the present-opening and would not have thought for a second about turning up at 6am. Being accommodating works both ways and is not all about doing everything the way ‘older folk’ (how patronising!) might want it.

Older folk are practically dead anyway. They have nothing else to live for but watching their grandkids open presents containing £1 tat from Ali express at 6am. How dare you deprive them of their one joy in life.

I tell you what, when DS is grown up and has kids, when I'm staying over on Christmas Day, I will STILL be not getting up before 9am!

Poshsmith · 24/12/2025 09:36

I think arriving at 6am is a pitch to be invited to stay on Xmas Eve night…….in what live long day is arriving at that time appropriate.

TheBlueHedgehog · 24/12/2025 09:33

Kerry242 · 24/12/2025 09:23

I was replying directly to a person who called the MIL unreasonable, selfish, entitled, and ill mannered.

I said there's a compromise to be had - fine - but there's absolutely no need for the nastiness towards the MIL who just wants to see her grandkids opening their presents.

We have all the Grandparents staying over to be here Christmas morning to be up with the Grandkids first thing - are they all selfish and entitled too? Or course not! They want to be involved, the only difference is - we welcome it.

Take a breath before replying so you've figured out exactly what you're replying to and the overall point being made.

The OP describes her as hands on, a big help who means well.

I'm not arguing the compromise, I'm arguing the demonising of this woman.

One could equally argue that it’s unreasonable, selfish, entitled and ill mannered to be upset about being asked to arrive at 9am rather than 6am on Christmas Day. 9am is still early.

And yes, you were replying to another poster but you introduced the idea of 364 day a year childcare, which doesn’t appear anywhere in the OP. I’m just asking where that came from, as it seems to have been made up to bolster the argument in MIL’s favour 🤷🏻‍♀️

LittleBitofBread · 24/12/2025 09:33

4forksache · 24/12/2025 09:25

Well I think it’s quite sad. Watching the kids open presents, including the stocking, is the best bit of Xmas for the older folk.

I’m glad that our family is more accommodating to the grandparents.

In your family, maybe. Not everyone is the same, or do you not understand that?
My grandparents never expected to be present for all of the present-opening and would not have thought for a second about turning up at 6am. Being accommodating works both ways and is not all about doing everything the way ‘older folk’ (how patronising!) might want it.

Flowerlovinglady · 24/12/2025 09:27

Or people who turn up when they like at other people's houses and just expect the host to be OKay with that.

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:26

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2025 09:22

And no wonder so many women are doormats when they don’t put their own boundaries in place and just go along with what other people want, even when they don’t want to.

Boundaries, a euphemism for ‘I want my own way’

I come from a family where multi generational living was normal, everyone has to rub along. It’s sometimes compromise, it’s sometimes great.

4forksache · 24/12/2025 09:25

Well I think it’s quite sad. Watching the kids open presents, including the stocking, is the best bit of Xmas for the older folk.

I’m glad that our family is more accommodating to the grandparents.

Kerry242 · 24/12/2025 09:23

TheBlueHedgehog · 24/12/2025 08:15

She's be the first person the OP would call though if she needed childcare help at 6am though.....

The other 364 days of the year she's a hands on Grandma

Have you just made this up? I can't see it in the OP?

The compromise is MIL arriving at 9am (not 6am) which is exactly what OP is suggesting.

I was replying directly to a person who called the MIL unreasonable, selfish, entitled, and ill mannered.

I said there's a compromise to be had - fine - but there's absolutely no need for the nastiness towards the MIL who just wants to see her grandkids opening their presents.

We have all the Grandparents staying over to be here Christmas morning to be up with the Grandkids first thing - are they all selfish and entitled too? Or course not! They want to be involved, the only difference is - we welcome it.

Take a breath before replying so you've figured out exactly what you're replying to and the overall point being made.

The OP describes her as hands on, a big help who means well.

I'm not arguing the compromise, I'm arguing the demonising of this woman.

rainbowstardrops · 24/12/2025 09:22

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:14

Well OP can just be ‘take us as you find us’. Honestly no wonder so many families fall out.

And no wonder so many women are doormats when they don’t put their own boundaries in place and just go along with what other people want, even when they don’t want to.

RedToothBrush · 24/12/2025 09:20

SexyFrenchDepression · 24/12/2025 09:16

OMG, no one should be asking permission for anything. OP hasnt suggested that she has to get authorisation for everything. If thats the case then totally fair enough and a line needs to be drawn. There's not a chance in hell I'd be getting up at 6am to open stockings, but I'd really like to think DH and I could sort something that suits both of us to an extent. I just dont think its that hard.

I was replying to another post suggesting the OP had gone about things the wrong way and should have consulted her DH.

I wasn't saying she should ask permission. I was pointing out the previous poster was pretty much saying that and that the OP should be behaving in a more be kind way rather than just dealing with the stupid request herself like a fully grown adult.

Nearlyamumoftwo · 24/12/2025 09:20

6am is ridiculously early so YANBU, but im
wondering why your husband is so ok with it as I really can't imagine why anyone would be. Is your
mother in the picture? Do you ever let her round at 6am? As I can understand his problem if so