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To be thinking something so awful?

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iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:03

I’m aware I’m going to get absolutely destroyed for this. My dad has three children. Me, and two older daughters by his first wife.

His first wife insists that at Christmas she cannot be without her daughters. She refuses. So my dad has never had a Christmas dinner with all of his children present. His ex refuses to even entertain the idea of us all having dinner together. My older sister has a child now and he has never seen his grandchild at Christmas. His first wife times the days so that there is no time for us to see them.

We do a redo on Boxing Day (with dinner and the trimmings) every year but it’s not the same is it? For the last thirty years my dad has never enjoyed Christmas. He has always made sure there was magic there when I was younger, but every year I can tell it breaks his heart that he’s not getting to see his whole family.

This is where the awful thoughts come in. Sometimes I wish his first wife would just die. I know it would destroy my sisters and i hate myself for even daring to think it, but god I wish my dad could have just one good Christmas, with everyone. I wish we could just have one good Christmas as a family. Hearing everyone discussing their Christmas plans at work, knowing that our Christmas Day will be horrendous, breaks my heart. I just wish she wasn’t so selfish and could let my dad have one good Christmas.

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blythet · 23/12/2025 18:50

So the solution is that you want her to die??

do you not thing that might mean they won’t be in the right mindset to start celebrating Christmas with your dad as a replacement?
for one they’ll be heartbroken, for 2…they might still not want it with you, their dad and stepmum anyway. Doesn’t sound like they’re too bothered about Boxing Day.

how much time do you all spend together the rest of the year?

Emmz1510 · 23/12/2025 18:50

Not so much with flu/ cold type things, but if it involves vomiting I’m a huge baby. I’ve hated vomitting since I was a child. Well, I know no one exactly ‘likes’ it, but I have a particular hatred of feeling nauseous and being sick.

beAsensible1 · 23/12/2025 18:50

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:27

No. But I have seen these messages first hand. She makes awful, awful threats any time she’s not prioritised.

Sorry your dad is just as dysfunctional as his ex.

everyone needs to get a grip. It’s just a day.

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:50

XWKD · 23/12/2025 18:48

If she raised them, they should spend Christmas with her -if that's what they want.

It was 50/50. When my mum and dad got married my eldest sister actually moved in with my parents full time.

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iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:49

TwistedWonder · 23/12/2025 18:48

So she’s a fucking selfish narcissistic drama queen who emotionally blackmails her adult DC to make sure she gets everything her own way.

I don’t think you’re unreasonable to have those dark thoughts - she sounds hideous and thinks the world should revolve around her.

This is how I feel. She’s mad it very clear that she despises me. In her mind, I’m the reason her and my dad never got back together. Despite the fact they’d been split up 15 years when I was born!

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TutTutTutSigh · 23/12/2025 18:49

Your dad needs to stop sulking and you all need to stop letting his first wife "ruin" Christmas. You are all ruining your own Christmas, the day is what you make it.

XWKD · 23/12/2025 18:48

If she raised them, they should spend Christmas with her -if that's what they want.

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:48

Vaguelyclassical · 23/12/2025 18:46

OP, where is your own mum in all this? How does she respond to your dad's behavior? How does she treat YOU on Christmas Day?
There is a huge silence here and I am wondering whether your mother got sick of your father not considering that SHE was good enough to celebrate with and departed!

They’re still married.

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TwistedWonder · 23/12/2025 18:48

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:08

If they even suggest that they don’t spend Christmas Day with her she goes right off on one. She threatens to withdraw the free childcare she gives to my eldest sister, she threatens to stop taking her medication so she would end up in hospital, she cries and cries about having to spend Christmas alone, she says that she may as well be dead if her children hate her that much. It’s a sorry state of affairs but she very much manipulates them to make sure they spend it with her.

So she’s a fucking selfish narcissistic drama queen who emotionally blackmails her adult DC to make sure she gets everything her own way.

I don’t think you’re unreasonable to have those dark thoughts - she sounds hideous and thinks the world should revolve around her.

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:48

Gymnopediegivesmethewillies · 23/12/2025 18:47

why? You’re not depriving her of Christmas Day. Win-win?

Because it would mean she’s not been the sole centre of attention.

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iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:47

Mapletree1985 · 23/12/2025 18:47

Is that what your dad tells you?

I’ve seen it with my own eyes. We’ve had girls nights where they’ve shown me the texts. My dad has as minimal contact with her as possible due to her hatred for me.

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Mapletree1985 · 23/12/2025 18:47

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:08

If they even suggest that they don’t spend Christmas Day with her she goes right off on one. She threatens to withdraw the free childcare she gives to my eldest sister, she threatens to stop taking her medication so she would end up in hospital, she cries and cries about having to spend Christmas alone, she says that she may as well be dead if her children hate her that much. It’s a sorry state of affairs but she very much manipulates them to make sure they spend it with her.

Is that what your dad tells you?

Gymnopediegivesmethewillies · 23/12/2025 18:47

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:45

I think she’d actually top herself if that happened!

why? You’re not depriving her of Christmas Day. Win-win?

Tigerbalmshark · 23/12/2025 18:47

So every single Christmas Day since before you were born has been spent with your dad sulking and refusing to celebrate, and instead of being annoyed with him for ruining literally every Christmas you have ever known, you are annoyed with his ex wife?

I’m amazed your mum hasn’t divorced him too. I’d have been out of there after year 2, I certainly wouldn’t have entertained this nonsense for 40 years.

vanillalattes · 23/12/2025 18:47

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:45

He doesn’t. He is upset. That is a valid feeling.

Yes, he does, you're just too close to him to see it. It's very sad.

Vaguelyclassical · 23/12/2025 18:46

OP, where is your own mum in all this? How does she respond to your dad's behavior? How does she treat YOU on Christmas Day?
There is a huge silence here and I am wondering whether your mother got sick of your father not considering that SHE was good enough to celebrate with and departed!

Flowerslamp · 23/12/2025 18:45

He's had 40 Christmases to find a way to enjoy himself and make his new family happy and yet wallows and makes everyone miserable?

I think you'd serve him better by telling him to get a grip.

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:45

Gymnopediegivesmethewillies · 23/12/2025 18:43

Beat her to it! Have a full Christmas Day on Christmas Eve, complete with midnight mass. Let her have them hungover and tired for once! Then you won’t mind Christmas Day being more subdued, you’ll be full and hungover too🤭

I think she’d actually top herself if that happened!

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Sugarcube84 · 23/12/2025 18:45

Slightly different scenario but I’m the 2nd wife and my dh has 2 children from his first marriage and we have one together.

Regardless of what your sisters mum has said/done in the past I think your father’s behaviour is terrible. If my dh even dared to say that Christmas wasn’t enough without his other 2 and made our child feel lesser he’d be on his own and spending Christmas with no children. He still celebrates Xmas day with all the cheer and trimmings and sees it as a bonus that we get to celebrate twice, each day is just as special . Yes he’d love my dsc there but for many reasons we’ve had to accept this won’t happen and we don’t wallow we make the best of the situation and that for us means Xmas is 2 days not one.

Disgraceful behaviour from an adult.

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:45

vanillalattes · 23/12/2025 18:43

It might do, but that doesn't give him carte blanche to treat you and your mum like total shit every single year.

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He doesn’t. He is upset. That is a valid feeling.

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vanillalattes · 23/12/2025 18:43

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:40

I just wish that for one day they’d think of someone other than her. It hurts my dad beyond belief.

It might do, but that doesn't give him carte blanche to treat you and your mum like total shit every single year.

TittyGajillions · 23/12/2025 18:43

Your dad needs a slap, he's wasted every Christmas being heartbroken and miserable when he really didn't need to. It sounds like he enjoys the misery and the attention it gets him.

Tetchypants · 23/12/2025 18:43

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:40

I just wish that for one day they’d think of someone other than her. It hurts my dad beyond belief.

Yes I understand it’s unfair but clearly it’s not going to happen, so….crack on?

You have to admit it’s a bit silly ruining Christmas (the season, not the 25th) every year over this. What does your mum think?

OneOpenMouse · 23/12/2025 18:43

iamsoashamedofmyself · 23/12/2025 18:40

I just wish that for one day they’d think of someone other than her. It hurts my dad beyond belief.

Your dad needs to give his head a wobble, so woe is me.

Gymnopediegivesmethewillies · 23/12/2025 18:43

Beat her to it! Have a full Christmas Day on Christmas Eve, complete with midnight mass. Let her have them hungover and tired for once! Then you won’t mind Christmas Day being more subdued, you’ll be full and hungover too🤭