Husband is insistent on joining trail hunt tomorrow

This!

There's a big difference between an exercise in cruelty and hunting to eat.

In an ideal world, hunting to eat would be a practice of ensuring a varied diet of free-range, local, organic meat, killed quickly & cleanly, with skill and respect as opposed to the intensive over-farming of beasts bred solely for meat and shipped to freezers hundreds or thousands of miles away.

Fox-hunting is barbaric, with both hounds and fox subjected to the most appalling cruelty. Many hunts also abuse their mounts and will literally ride roughshod through property they have no right to access, causing damage & intimidating property owners & other locals.

There may be a select few people who enjoy the thrill and pomp of a trail hunt, behave lawfully and respectfully towards humans & animals alike but most remaining hunts in the UK are nothing more than a bastion of upper-class bullies and savages.

Animals are killed by humans every day, either for something (meat) or because they can no longer supply something (milk). I'm not sure what your point is?

Hunters respect their animals. You don't have to love an animal to hunt with it.

Where do you get the 2.4 million figure from? Google puts it at more like 20K. Still too many, but hardly comparable. Plus it's very firmly illegal, to the extent that it's a full defence to any charge resulting from killing a dog that a farmer had reasonable cause to believe that the dog was attacking or about to attack their animals - so the law doesn't condone killing by dogs whether through hunting or in other contexts.

You forgot to add “illegal” to those 61 kills” (terrified, exhausted animals torn apart for fun and cheered on by inadequates who wipe the blood on the faces of their children)

Of course I know what it is. Do you? Do you acknowledge that foxes and other wildlife get caught up in it?

I do have an issue with negligent dog owners. A big pet peeve of mine actually and a big problem in society. But not comparable to people doing this for sport.

While I realise it’s trail hunting that’s been discussed, would you be ok with the sight of a fox being ripped apart should it ‘accidentally’ get caught up in one?

Look it up. Cats, lovely fluffy pussy cats, are disastrous for the bird population.

Trail hunts do not hunt animals.

Oh bless you. My point is that hunters claim to love animals, but also say they would kill their dogs and horses if they were no longer able to go hunting with them. Such love,! Do you have anything to say regarding that or will you continue to try and derail?

Ps I'm aware animals are killed every day for meat. I'm opposed to that as well. I don't eat animals.

Please stop.
Are you seriously comparing a cat’s critical thinking skills with a human being. 😂

I think the poster is pointing out that a huge amount of animals are killed in a grotesque way and that the focus and outrage over 61 foxes over two years is disproportionate compared to 4 million farm animals is where our attention should be - a lot could be done with stupid dog owners - this shouldn’t be happening - im a dog owner too - I don’t think we can just accept the 4 million as accidental - it’s bloody lazy

Well what is your problem here. Animals being hunted - or red coats?

So a cat is akin to a human? Why don’t they drive cars and have jobs then? You clearly are taking the piss now.

I don’t have a dog. Farm animals aren’t generally ripped to shreds and their offspring left to starve when they’re slaughtered.

Whatabout, whatabout …..

Cats do it for fun.

Do you know trail hunting is? That is what’s being discussed here, not fox hunting.

The numbers are pretty stark though? Do you have an issue with dog owners’ incompetence, negligence and lack of education being responsible for the horrific deaths of literally millions of animals per year? Or is it just the poor foxes you worry about?

Since when did people dress up in red coats and go following hunting cats on horseback and cheering them on when they catch and kill their prey?

I think the statistics of 64,000 pets and 2.4million farm animals killed each year by pet dogs are inaccurate, or extend beyond the UK?

You are making yourself look really dim here. How can you compare a cats natural instincts to the developed depraved brains of humans who do this for fun. It’s laughable.

Maybe have a look at the post I was replying to.

What's the real difference? Dead is dead. Would you care if someone kills you to eat or for the craic? What difference does it make?

No, people, whether left or right wing, don't like hunting because they don't like the concept of people going out with horses and dogs to chase terrified animals and have them torn apart and killed for entertainment. It's very convenient for hunt supporters to try to attribute it to something else, but they really need to admit the truth.

Just for fun, why don't you look up how many live birds are killed by pet cats each year. Go on, have a go.

Again, for food. Not for fun. What are you struggling with here?

Animals get "killed off" every day. For meat. Did you not realise?

I am absolutely gob-smacked someone has compared trail hunting to child abuse. OP - do you even know what trail hunting is?