To find DH’s outfit for dinner really unsuitable?

I can't believe most people think YABU and not one person has suggested to LTB. MN standards are slipping.

In the past, jeans and trainers generally weren't allowed according to smart casual codes, but things have changed, and most workplaces that once insisted on trousers and proper shoes are fine with them.
Now it's more about letting everyone just wear what they're happy with.

Thank God I don’t dress my kids according to social media memes! There are also lots of memes taking the piss out of dry robes and I don’t give a shit about them either.

My kids have zero idea about hooligan culture because they’ve never been a part of it and they’re too young to have seen any of it. They wear Stone Island because they see so many other men on the terraces wearing it and they like how it looks. It makes them feel a part of something.

People have such ludicrous ideas about football culture. I love it. I think it adds so much to my kids’ (and my) lives. It also means they see their entire extended family every week and have seen loads of different towns and cities they’d never have otherwise been to.

Did you miss the bit where I said I’m a season ticket holder? I’m not sure which club you support but I’ve genuinely not seen a fight in years at my championship club and there are thousands of young fans and families.

I was also a fan from around the late 80s onwards and the fighting then was atrocious.

My kids stand with me at the games. Yes Stone Island has a bit of a reputation but it’s part of a wider culture than just hooliganism. My kids would shit themselves if anyone started on them.

I guess we must just support very different teams eh.

I wouldn't be with anyone wearing stone island in the first place 😬

Wtf are you on about? Men have outfits. Men are fashion designers and stylists and models and a great many men think about their clothes that deeply.
My teenage sons have outfits.

Is it one of these? I can't see anything wrong with it.

https://www.stoneisland.com/en-gb/collection/knitwear?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LOWER_PURC_EMEA_UK-EN_ALW_ADW_BRAN-EXA_SRC&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19722102655&gclid=CjwKCAiA9aPKBhBhEiwAyz82J2gzi2ZYBzhfVniZjfrInUJEMG71BB5BlDMlAqnvYKZnAHUfAGioVBoC-zUQAvD_BwE.

Unless you were having dinner somewhere like Le Manoir or the RAC, where entry would have been declined, I can't see the issue.

Stone island was the label of choice for football firms in the 90s.

Terrace wear has always been around, it’s nothing new. Stone island is definitely worn by those people who want to portray themselves as being part of what was ‘hooligan’ culture, even if they are nice boys who wouldn’t say boo to a goose. The fact it’s expensive only adds to its appeal and people on here who seem to think it’s some sort of coveted label are very wrong. It wouldn’t be banned in some places if it was so well thought of. There are hundreds of get the badge in memes and even a social media account just to take the piss out of people who wear it, and dress their children in it!

I’m willing to overlook a lot if he’s clean and well groomed.

And also, did you meet him there or did you leave home together?
Because if you left home together and objected so much to his attire, you clearly didn’t object enough to travel to the restaurant with him and walk in and sit down with him.

I’m not surprised judging by the price of them! I’ve never heard of them and googled it 😳

Those Stone Island jumpers are foul and not smart at all.

Was he also wearing a coat with goggles in the hood?

Stone Island is a complete ick for me. As is someone who can’t be arsed to make the effort for a nice restaurant.

😂

Honestly, yes. I am tired of people dressing like slobs, I think it reflects societal decline. Obviously fine for a casual joint, but trousers and a smart shirt and shoes would have been far better.

I’ve never heard of Stone Island!

All the Cool Wives are out tonight… in what world is any of this smart? 😂

If he is wearing jeans and trainers, everything else is ok. Jeans and trainers are never "smart", even massively expensive ones.

Bloke here. Not something I’d own, let alone wear.

And I’m someone who has no problem going out to a ‘nice’ restaurant in CyberPunk or Goth kit, accompanied by a wife with three inch spikes sticking out from her neck. 😳

Yes I had to as well! Very meh - shocked that people would pay that much for something so dull.

I agree actually - the “stone island is only worn by football hooligans” trope is ridiculous.

And when I’m skiing in Val-d’isere amongst other places many people wear Moncler and I assure you they’re not chavs 😂 I’ve had my Moncler ski coat about 8 years and it cost £2K even then.

People who make sweeping statements like this probably have pre-conceived ideas based on the fact they see fakes being worn by road men types in the areas they live in. I live in a very affluent area and people do wear Moncler/Stone Island who are certainly not yobs.

I don't think you've been to a football match since Covid. There's way more trouble now than I'd seen since the 80s, and if your sons are wearing the badge it's because they want people to think they might be involved jn that, even if they're not.

Watching football live was becoming an old man's thing, with audiences increasing in age and clubs struggling to recruit young fans. Until recently hooligans were middleaged throwbacks from the 80s, but we're now seeing a new class of young hooligan who are wearing all the fashions of the 1980s firms.

My older teens (all non-violent high achievers!) wear Stone Island for the football. It’s not hooligan wear, it’s terrace wear, which is now a whole thing in itself. I quite like it tbh. A stoney, Levi’s and Adidas Speziales. Maybe a parka if it’s freezing but more often not.

Football hooligans don’t really exist at most clubs now tbh. It’s just groups of lads having a laugh with their mates supporting their team. There seems to be quite a bit of snobbery around it here, which is a shame. My kids get so much from having season tickets to our local club. They’re part of a whole community.

I also have a season ticket and although the chanting can be a bit close to the bone, it’s rare to see a fight these days.

As for your husband OP, I think he can wear what he wants and as long as it was clean and ironed I wouldn’t care at all.

He had made an effort. He was wearing his best, most expensive clothes, and proud to show "the badge". It's a thing amongst a certain kind of man.

My husband would have worn a shirt.