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To find DH’s outfit for dinner really unsuitable?

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MarieJh · 22/12/2025 21:49

Meal out at a nice restaurant yesterday. DH wearing smart trainers, jeans and…a black Stone Island roll neck jumper. With badge on sleeve.

He says it’s smart/designer and suitable for the occasion.

I disagree. AIBU?

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Terrytheweasel · 23/12/2025 12:44

The brand is associated with football hooliganism and drug dealer types but it’s perfectly ok to wear to a nice restaurant. I’m assuming he had a coat over the top - what was that like?

macshoto · 23/12/2025 12:39

shuggles · 22/12/2025 22:35

Men wear clothes.

Outfit implies that all separate pieces are part of a singular look. No man thinks about his appearance that deeply.

Clothes for a man going to a restaurant consists of... decent trousers, a shirt or nice sweater, and decent shoes. That's not an "outfit."

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Not true. Take for instance the blog (and now retail site) https://www.permanentstyle.com/

Not common, I would concede, but there are men who think about their clothes more deeply than you imagine.

Permanent Style

The world leader on bespoke, craft and luxury

https://www.permanentstyle.com/

DialSquare · 23/12/2025 12:28

JaniceBattersby · 22/12/2025 23:26

My older teens (all non-violent high achievers!) wear Stone Island for the football. It’s not hooligan wear, it’s terrace wear, which is now a whole thing in itself. I quite like it tbh. A stoney, Levi’s and Adidas Speziales. Maybe a parka if it’s freezing but more often not.

Football hooligans don’t really exist at most clubs now tbh. It’s just groups of lads having a laugh with their mates supporting their team. There seems to be quite a bit of snobbery around it here, which is a shame. My kids get so much from having season tickets to our local club. They’re part of a whole community.

I also have a season ticket and although the chanting can be a bit close to the bone, it’s rare to see a fight these days.

As for your husband OP, I think he can wear what he wants and as long as it was clean and ironed I wouldn’t care at all.

Agreed. I’ve been going to football since the 70s and was really in to the casual era clothes. Stone Island is a later version of that. My partner wears it a lot of and has done for years but we’re both working class season ticket holders so that just make us chavs.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 23/12/2025 12:27

In case it kicks off in the restaurant 🤣

missmollygreen · 23/12/2025 12:18

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 22/12/2025 21:55

Wearing football hooligan attire to a nice restaurant is a no.

People wear The North Face to summit Everest. Does not mean mean the guy wearing TNF jacket at the pub is a mountain climber.

NoisyViewer · 23/12/2025 12:12

NoArmaniNoPunani · 23/12/2025 01:22

I can't believe most people think YABU and not one person has suggested to LTB. MN standards are slipping.

Christmas spirit must be in. Post it new years and I’m sure they’ll be back trying to ruin the lives of others 😆

TorroFerney · 23/12/2025 12:10

SledgingSlide · 22/12/2025 21:54

My young adult kids say that Stone Island is a ‘roadman’ brand. I don’t really know exactly what that means, but it’s derogatory. My kids could also be being dickheads🤷🏼‍♀️

Your kids aren’t dickheads. I described it as coked up football fan last week.

NoisyViewer · 23/12/2025 12:10

I went to the savoy & people where in there in Nike hoodies. If the restaurant doesn’t stipulate a strict dress code I think what he’s wearing is fine

Paganpentacle · 23/12/2025 12:08

Dollybantree · 22/12/2025 21:59

Trainers are not suitable attire for a nice restaurant - but a lot of people don’t seem to make an effort these days.

My group of friends and I were laughing at all the middle aged men in stone island parka type jackets and mod Liam Gallagher-esque haircuts in a bar in Manchester on Saturday night 😂

To be fair... they probably developed that look in the 90's and stuck with it.

Hopefully they weren't laughing at your sartorial choices.

zingally · 23/12/2025 11:54

I had to google the brand, as I'd never heard of it. I wouldn't have known the association with chavs either.
Looks like a very basic, over-priced jumper.

I can't see the probably particularly. What restaurant was it?

Clychaugog · 23/12/2025 10:43

Stone Island is the chosen brand of double hard football hooligans.

There's a tongue in cheek facebook page dedicated to it.

Can see why you might take issue but in the grand scale of male clothing crimes I'd say its fairly minor.

Gall10 · 23/12/2025 10:36

boxofbuttons · 22/12/2025 21:53

You can't wear a Stoney to dinner 😫Some jeans and trainers are definitely more smart-casual than casual so no issue with that. But Stone Island def isn't smart.

Why?

BettysRoasties · 23/12/2025 10:33

Oh yeah I don’t know about that. Any other nice jumper could gone with but not the badge 😂

Though reminds me of a lady on tiktok asked her man to dress up in his most expensive stuff as they are going out. So he put his bike leathers because it was the most expensive outfit he owned haha

Flowerslamp · 23/12/2025 10:32

Flowerslamp · 23/12/2025 10:31

That might be your anecdotal experience but the stars say differently. My experience is the the lower leagues are seeing groups of very young fans looking for trouble.

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Flowerslamp · 23/12/2025 10:31

JaniceBattersby · 23/12/2025 00:46

Did you miss the bit where I said I’m a season ticket holder? I’m not sure which club you support but I’ve genuinely not seen a fight in years at my championship club and there are thousands of young fans and families.

I was also a fan from around the late 80s onwards and the fighting then was atrocious.

My kids stand with me at the games. Yes Stone Island has a bit of a reputation but it’s part of a wider culture than just hooliganism. My kids would shit themselves if anyone started on them.

I guess we must just support very different teams eh.

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That might be your anecdotal experience but the stars say differently. My experience is the the lower leagues are seeing groups of very young fans looking for trouble.

TheSweetestCon · 23/12/2025 10:25

shuggles · 22/12/2025 22:35

Men wear clothes.

Outfit implies that all separate pieces are part of a singular look. No man thinks about his appearance that deeply.

Clothes for a man going to a restaurant consists of... decent trousers, a shirt or nice sweater, and decent shoes. That's not an "outfit."

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Tell us you dress badly without...etc etc

Plenty of men care about their appearance and think carefully about what they wear.

Another ridiculous, ill-informed generalisation from our resident Bloke Here, though, quelle surprise.

mamajong · 23/12/2025 09:28

If theres no dress code then you can each where whatever you like. I would never tell a partner what to wear and would give short shrift to anyone telling me how to dress. Its fine not to like it, but its his body his choice unless there is a dress code imo

THisbackwithavengeance · 23/12/2025 09:26

I’ve never heard of Stone Island. But an all black outfit sounds inoffensive and generic. Did he get refused entry or kicked out the restaurant? If not, then it was ok.

Comefromaway · 23/12/2025 09:25

Did he get the badge in?

even Julian Lloyd Webber (classical cellist) wears Stone Island these days. Some f the stuff is nice.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 23/12/2025 09:22

Stone island is chavvy and definitely associated with football hooliganism for many people.

Sartre · 23/12/2025 09:19

Wouldn’t mind the outfit if it wasn’t Stone Island personally. DH frequently wears a nice roll neck jumper with jeans, although I don’t know what ‘smart’ trainers are, he’d always wear with Chelsea boots. As others have said, the brand carries a reputation.

cramptramp · 23/12/2025 09:14

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To find DH’s outfit for dinner really unsuitable?
BeeHive909 · 23/12/2025 09:00

at nearly £400 for a bloody jumper I’d be wearing it to a meal also. It doesn’t look cheap or awful and ive never seen a so called football hooligan wearing one: I think the outfit sounds fine for a meal.

SeekingPerspective · 23/12/2025 08:57

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 22/12/2025 23:48

Honestly, yes. I am tired of people dressing like slobs, I think it reflects societal decline. Obviously fine for a casual joint, but trousers and a smart shirt and shoes would have been far better.

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I guess we can agree to disagree. if he is clean and well groomed, then I really don't think that it means anything other than he is comfortable.

For me increase in places abused women can be safe is societal improvement, while voting for Reform is a societal decline. its about what people stand for, not really anything to do with how they dress. The two aspects are disconnected.

CurlewKate · 23/12/2025 08:57

shuggles · 22/12/2025 22:35

Men wear clothes.

Outfit implies that all separate pieces are part of a singular look. No man thinks about his appearance that deeply.

Clothes for a man going to a restaurant consists of... decent trousers, a shirt or nice sweater, and decent shoes. That's not an "outfit."

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Mine does! He was planning what to wear for Christmas Day last night. He loves dressing up!