To think that some women care more about their careers than their families and that this isn’t always a good thing?

Assuming you're ok with men 'prioritising their career above all else...'?

I have loads to say about the problems created by an economy which requires two full time salaries to raise a family (although of course it can work very well on an individual family basis).

However, that is in no way an issue for women alone.

Money is very important. Make it so we can live on one wage but get equal access to the money if you want us back in the home.

I recently attended a series of events which were aimed at inspiring women to succeed in career, and life more generally. Each event had an inspirational woman speaker. Where these women had children, it was clear that the children were put aside whilst the woman worked on her career. One even spoke of her daughter articulating this quite clearly, and painfully, and her daughter has suffered from very poor mental health. Another put her children in boarding school to enable her inflexible career. I have noticed this about highly successful women I hear on the radio too. Time with their children is what suffers. Which means the children suffer.

I know that people will counter with 'men don't get this accusation' but highly successful men often have wives who spend more time with the children. These women at the events did not, so the children suffer.

Two parents in highly time demanding careers is not good for children.

^ This 100%.

Yes, there are parents. Men and women who prioritise their careers over their children. Yes there is a point when it crosses a line. What the line is, depends on the child.

Personally I have never notice women prioritise career over children / partner and if they do I don’t care. It’s only a matter for that family.

(I have noticed it with men but once again not my concern. That’s a matter for his partner / kids

I think high achievers will prioritise their careers for a critical time, eg when they are on the cusp on middle management and need to catch a wave.

They will then settle into a happy equilibrium between career and family.

It's better than prioritise how much you can get without working at all.

I could offer a structural analysis but I can’t be arsed. Suffice to say your argument is feeble.

Well focussing on my career has meant that I’ve reached a senior enough position that I can flex my work to care for my kids who both have complex needs. My skills and experience are in demand, so I can negotiate hours and salary that give my kids a good lifestyle and I can be there for them when they need me. I’m bloody glad now I worked my arse off in my early career because of the freedom I have now.

No. It does not affect society.

If only I'd worked less, DD might have had a childhood full of fun times, grown up to get a degree, got a job she loved, have loads of friends and be a delight to be around......oh wait all that has happened. Her cousins (well 3 out of 4 anyway), who grew up with a SAHP have, on the other hand, grown up to be lazy , entitled adults.

This.

With bells on.

No, I don't think some women care more about their careers than their families.
I think some women place equal importance on their careers and financial independence. And why shouldn't they.

Rubbish.

I work with lots of women who and mothers and work £100k -300k + per year jobs.

All of them are breaking their backs to give their kids the best they can.
I dont know a single one that isnt bothered or views their kids as a lifestyle tickbox exercise that isn't prioritised.

Do you mean you've noticed a growing trend of women working or working full time?
If so, there are doing it so they have the money required to feed and clothe their children and themselves and provide them with a good standard of living.
I know because I am one of them.
Be reassured my career is fairly low down my priority list right now 😅

We are fine thanks...

Perhaps spare more of a thought for the women who dont work and are birthing children they can it be fucked to raise.... while relying on government benefits and abusing asda workers who wont let them use the FSM vouchers issued in the summer holidays (because they cant be trusted to feed their children) to buy bags and booze 👍👍👍 rather han berate the working mothers funding it

what fucking post. 😅😅😅

Is it bad when men do this too or just women?

Where have you seen this trend? The Daily Mail? Conservative Home? From Reform Party members? MAGA fans?

Wow, you must live on a different planet to me

Are you serious OP? You genuinely think that a man who works long hours and doesn't see much of his family is criticised more than a woman who does the same? That is very much not the case.

I think having a good income that means dd doesn't have to watch us stressing about turning the heating on or buying food, doing the hobbies she loves and being able to do school trips and family holidays actually is prioritising her. If she needs me I'm there but my career is important to me too

Well, let's see op, my career has provided a warm secure home for my happy confident child. It puts food on the table, it pays the bills, has allowed dc to take up his scholarship, and will shortly help him take the masters in engineering he wants. It sets him a good example of a decent work ethic.

Silly me, I should have stayed at home making gingerbread in a gingham pinny, and lived off the state instead. 😂😂😂

Short of maybe Erika Kirk right now, or some celebrities who clearly have nannies doing everything, I don’t know any women like this. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Dh and I have both worked hard in our careers. I got a PhD and was travelling internationally doing research when my eldest was a toddler. The outcome of that is that Dh and I now have the sort of life where neither of us has to work FT. One of us always does the school run. One or both of us is always done work by 3:30pm when dc are off school. We have our evenings and weekends free for family time. Because we put in the time to build our careers when it counted. Most of the women I know have either left work or are PT.

By prioritising career do you mean working full time/enough hours to cover mortgage, bills, child related costs? By not needing lots of benefit top ups? Many of us work hard because we have to and because don’t qualify for benefit top ups or don’t want to take when capable of working. We value our careers because it helps our mental health along with covering costs of living and keeping a roof over our child’s heads.

Seems women can’t win we either producing children we can’t afford to keep or working too much some people think we not prioritising our children. Would love to work less but as no one else going to step in financially will just keep going although my children are my priority in life

It doesn't have to be either/or. I worked hard at my career so that my daughter could see what was possible for women. I didn't have such a role model and I wanted something different for her.

Thankfully my husband was supportive and went part time to be there for the kids while I worked up to 98 hour weeks with studying for professional exams on top.