To think that some women care more about their careers than their families and that this isn’t always a good thing?

Exactly this. Most of our business heads and executives work long hours, evenings, weekends. I worked in Oil and Gas where the expat workers left their families for weeks at a time.

All would fit some people’s definition of “prioritising career over their children / partner” but that’s a private matter for those families. Why would I care about their chosen work model. Impacts nobody but those families.

If there is another parent there, male or female, who is a main attachment figure and can provide the children with stability and be there when the children need them eg accident/illness/MH crisis with teens, then although not ideal, the children would cope. It would be better than having 2 parents living at home but working all their children's waking hours.

Assuming that by 'prioritise their career' you mean you mean chooses to do a wjob with long / unpredictable hours I think its not an issue unless their DH also prioritises their career.

Absoutley this.

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OP is a 70 year old man, who is struggling with seeing women out of the kitchen and having agency, not like the good old days where we all knew our place and did whatever our husbands said, lest we felt the back of their hands.

But what are you defining as “putting above the children”? DH has to go away for months at a time for his job, it’s an important part of his career and how he provides for the family BUT let’s not pretend that’s the only way he can make money because of course it isn’t. Some might say he’s putting his career above the kids, we don’t see it that way and that’s all that matters to us, but you’re making a slippery slope argument when it is entirely undefined. Because it’s all ultimately objective.

OP could it be that these women are trying to keep their jobs as their income, like their male partner's is needed by their family.

Or do families just need one salary OP, what is your experience?

As a woman, I find this incredibly insulting. Yes I have a great career, but I provide very well for my family. I am a real family woman, and I help out a lot at home. Some of us can indeed do it all.

There's some really poor reading comprehension on this thread.
A parent working/having a career is NOT the same as a parent putting work above their children.
Parents working is good, often necessary to meet the child's needs. A parent putting work above their child is neglectful.
All the people getting wound up over this and disagreeing, do you put work above your children? If not, you are not being criticised.

I cannot believe OP said, with a straight face, men are more criticised for their career choices than women.

On what planet?

We are talking about women prioritising career. Not child neglect. One does not necessarily less to the other. A women prioritising career over partner / kids is a private matter for that family not society

(And it’s weird how it only becomes “child neglect” when mothers do it not fathers).

I read the post just fine. Did you?

It really isn't. I didn't respond until the post I quoted. Which says exactly what I claimed it says. In that post, OP literally claims that men are more criticised for their career choices than women. That is what I object to, because it is manifestly not true.

Absolutely this 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Can we talk about the aspects of child development that are better developed when around peers, when with actual child care professionals who can provide them with learning opportunities, or when around adults outside of their family unit?

Really keen to hear about those ones!

Why would children feel neglected and unloved just because they have mums who work?

What loathsome emotional blackmail A woman having a career does not equal neglected and unloved children. The implication is stupid & offensive.

OP not been back? Shocker.

I do think as other posters have said there are also large swathes of mums ‘in the middle ‘who aren’t married to merchant bankers , hedge funders or senior lawyers but also have partners so whilst in couples or even single mums who are moderately well paid or have savings who would qualify for nothing benefits wise or next to nothing who simply have little choice to be back at work, if they want a reasonable home ( particularly in southern half of country and I don’t just mean London of even half decent areas elsewhere) plus be able to pay the bills and have reasonable standard of living . The idea we all have a choice is not the case - unless you are pretty well off or have very low housing costs or the reverse , actually have bugger all , are housed and qualify for everything going - you may well not have that much choice,

That's very different to what you claimed the OP said in your previous post.

I think women feel the criticism much more than men, whether it's there or not.

You can do both successfully so long as both parents support each other.

DT’s are my most successful achievement but no way was I ever going to be a SAHP - nor was DH. We’d both studied for too many years to take our foot off the career ladder.
My career took equal importance as DH’s.

You can't genuinely believe that children being neglected and feeling unloved wouldn't have an impact on society? Have you misread the post and not wanted to back down or do you just not have any understanding of child development?

Me too and it was exhausting but I didn’t want my DC to have a life on benefits when I had a career.

I've failed then👍😂😁

Er yes - they did:

there’s often an assumption that women’s career choices are always unquestionably positive or empowering, whereas men’s trade-offs are more openly criticised.

According to OP, women are universally acclaimed for their career choices while men are more openly criticised. This is so very much the opposite of what actually happens that it's laughable.