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To feel DH is being really insensitive (TW)

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kerikaz · 21/12/2025 01:42

I’ll start with saying I’m going to talk about suicide, please don’t read if that will upset you.

In 2019 my DS aged 20 at the time took his own life. The grief has never really left me, it never will. He was troubled, but such a kind boy, and incredibly loving. He had been with his girlfriend since they were 14/15, she had been a staple presence in our home, best friends with my daughters, I was really fond of her, and she was incredible to DS as was he to her. We grieved together, and have kept in touch. Every year since 2019 (except 2020) when she has come home for Christmas we’ve met up, exchanged gifts, gone for lunch, visited DS’s grave, had a drink for him at the pub. It’s become a really lovely part of Christmas for me, just her and I, DH was never interested in joining nor were my DDs. We’d talk about life, DS and memories.

This year at the start of December she messaged telling me she wouldn’t be coming home for Christmas this year and was going to her boyfriends family, she asked if I would lay flowers for DS for her. She said she would visit around April for her dad’s birthday and asked if we could meet up then. I do totally understand why she can’t make it, I’m glad she is happy and moving on. Normally it would be the Saturday before Christmas we’d meet up and today I couldn’t help but be distraught, that she wasn’t there.

I feel there are few people who knew the kind, loving side to DS. He and DH clashed often, so while DH is devastated he doesn’t have an abundance of happy memories to share. Our daughters do have happy memories but they find them painful to share and I never push. His girlfriend was one of the few people who really saw him, not for the troubled boy he was but for the kind, funny, loving soul underneath. He absolutely adored her, when she left for uni he’d drive 6 hours there and back most weekends just to see her, spent what little money he had on her often, spoke about her always.

Today I visited his grave alone and it felt like a new grief, the reality that the world really does keep turning, everyone is moving on and while it doesn’t mean he’s forgotten it does feel like the little marks he left on the world are being erased slowly by time. Obviously I’m not saying that shouldn’t be the case, it should, everyone deserves to move on, but it does hurt none the less.

DH asked why I was so upset and I explained, he told me I was being silly and I need to accept his girlfriend isn’t his girlfriend anymore, and one day she will get married and have children and we will likely never hear from her again. I guess I hadn’t really thought about that yet, maybe naivety assumed it would continue forever. I’m sensitive and I know it’s totally irrational but every time I sit with my thoughts too long I imagine how devastated DS would be that she didn’t visit. I know that’s totally unfair and I probably need more therapy.

DH has now said I really need to get a grip as being this sad “isn’t normal”.

AIBU to think he could be a bit more considerate? I appreciate to him it’s not a big deal but it mattered to me.

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JMSA · 21/12/2025 19:12

Oh, you poor poor love. I sometimes feel that I have a hard heart, but your post touched me so much.
I mean this in THE kindest and most gentle way, but you are being a little unreasonable. However, your feelings are 100% understandable. So really, you’re not unreasonable at all! I think it’s more a case of managing your expectations of your son’s girlfriend.
I am so incredibly sorry for your loss x

UnhappyHobbit · 21/12/2025 15:09

Im so sorry for your loss. It really does sound complicated in your family and It seems your DHs way of coping is not helpful at all.

I think it’s lovely that you and your son’s girlfriend still visit the grave together and you are completely reasonable to feel upset she can’t make it this year.

It may be her moving on but you are entitled to feel how you feel and that you miss her.

All the best op x

whyohwhyisitalwayswet · 21/12/2025 14:12

I am so sorry for your huge loss, and the grief you understandably feel (and on which there is no statute of limitations). Your DH sounds emotionally stunted and negligent. What you got from your DS's GF was connection, empathy, and shared understanding in grief. It is thoughtful of her to have written to you, and to continue to keep you and your DS in her heart, even as her life moves on. This level of consideration and thoughtfulness is not typical of the young people I know, and I have great admiration for her too. Perhaps you've also come to rely more on her fulfilling a need that perhaps your DH could/should have? Have you had grief counseling, been to support groups..? Just because you have a DH and DDs doesn't mean they are able to provide the support you need...Hope you find some peace and support when you need it. Virtual hugs - what you are going through is in the realm of nightmares for most parents. My heart goes out to you.

2old4thispoo · 21/12/2025 11:09

There are no words so sending you hugs and strength. 🫶

lizzyBennet08 · 21/12/2025 11:05

I'm sorry for your loss.. a mothers love is immeasurable, of course you are still grieving and having someone who was also grieving with you was a source of comfort and of course you'll miss that.
Havjng said that you probably do need to prepare yourself for the fact that she may end up marrying/moving away and while it's hard , your ds would have wanted those things for her too.

JLou08 · 21/12/2025 09:15

You're not being irrational. Your thoughts and feelings are completely valid. I'm so sorry for your loss.

WinterBerry40 · 21/12/2025 08:58

I won't vote if you are / not being unreasonable because you are obviously still grieving and the hurt is within you but in a way you have an expectation that this young woman has to carry that grief along with her as well .
Is that what you want for her for many years to come ? Its almost like you expect her to don widows weeds and never move her life along .
Of course she shouldn't do that , and surely you wouldn't want that either .
She carries her love for your son in her heart , but it shouldn't be in all her heart , just a tiny bit .
The rest of it is to allow new experiences , new people , new lives to enrich her life.
Please let her have that , even better want her to have that .

Notmyreality · 21/12/2025 08:52

61here · 21/12/2025 08:13

I feel that your husband may have phrased it wrong but the thought behind it is right. It's time for his girlfriend to move on with her life and probably cut ties with you. You can grieve however you want but other people have to live their lives too.

This. I’m sorry for your loss and yes he was a bit insensitive but he also has a point. She is moving on and it’s unreasonable for you to expect things to stay the same forever. As hard as it is you also need to find a way to move forward for your sake and your family sake. It’s possible your husband is feeling frustrated because of this, and that is a valid feeling. Sounds like you all need to sit down and find a way to talk through how you all feel Which I appreciate is extremely difficult but you all need to find a way to move forward.

Oooobigstretch · 21/12/2025 08:45

I’m so sorry for your loss. That is an awful amount of of grief to carry and the one person who should be there to support you in however it manifests is your DH. I’m so sorry.

ConstitutionHill · 21/12/2025 08:38

He's being horrible. Grief is a process. The GF was very sweet and considerate to let you know in advance that she wasn't coming. You understand and this can be a small step in the direction towards her eventually moving on completely. There's no need for your "D" H to push the next steps onto you today. Prick.

Mithral · 21/12/2025 08:32

I think it's absolutely understandable. Your post is so thoughtful and empathetic, I feel so sorry for you.

JulietSierra · 21/12/2025 08:29

I’m so sorry for your loss and completely understand your devastation. Your husband, in my opinion, was very harsh. But I suppose that he’s coping with grief in his own way. Perhaps seeing your ds’s girlfriend is difficult for him?
Sending love and hope you find some peace this Christmas xxx

Eyeshadow · 21/12/2025 08:28

I’m sorry for your loss.

Have you seen a therapist?

Your DH will be grieving and miss your son just as badly as you are.
If they clashed, then he will likely be struggling with his death even more so.

The way he said it was very insensitive but I do wonder if his heart is in the right place.

The world does keep turning and people do move on with their lives but that doesn’t mean they won’t be grieving your son.

It’s not either/or.
You can love and miss your son but also live your life to the fullest.
When people move on, they are simply living their life - it does not mean they have forgotten or love your son any less.

You will never not miss your son.
But I hope you find a way to move on without feeling guilty for doing so.

Neodymium · 21/12/2025 08:21

Sorry for you loss.

I don’t think it’s a given she will get married and you won’t hear from her. My cousin died in his early 20s. His girlfriend at the time eventually moved on and married, but still kept in touch with his parents. When her and new husband had a baby, my aunt and uncle were called grandma and grandpa. They loved her kids as their own grandkids. Not all families are the same - and if you have a connection with her it could stay strong. She has said she is coming for his bday. So clearly she still cares.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 21/12/2025 08:20

I'm so sorry for your loss. My husband died 8 years ago and the grief is still there even though I have moved on to an extent and have another child. You come across very kind and understanding. You aren't expecting your son's girlfriend not to move on. I wish my husband's parents were more understanding.

61here · 21/12/2025 08:13

I feel that your husband may have phrased it wrong but the thought behind it is right. It's time for his girlfriend to move on with her life and probably cut ties with you. You can grieve however you want but other people have to live their lives too.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/12/2025 08:05

Owly11 · 21/12/2025 07:46

He is probably upset that he and you have not been able to share your grief together in the way you and the gf shared it. He has likely felt excluded and is angry that you were sharing your grief with someone else. Your son has gone, his gf has gone and it is your dh who is still here and yet he may feel like the least important. Have the two of you had many open and frank conversations about how you are each managing your grief?

I agree with this. Your husband’s grief will be different, possibly more complex as their relationship was more complex.

Yes he was insensitive, possibly because he’s a callous uncaring man or possibly because feels he’s lost not only his son but his wife who is changed forever by her grief.

When it isn’t the anniversary or a particular special occasion, reflect on your marriage generally. Would therapy together help? Losing a child puts terrible strain on relationships.

I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s unimaginable.

InterestedDad37 · 21/12/2025 07:54

It's lovely that you share these special moments and memories with his girlfriend. OK it may not last forever, and this year is a sign of that, but it's a measure of the woman that she still asked you to lay flowers for her. Keep that, as long as you can, but be ready for it to fade (it may not, though).
It's also a measure of the man, that your husband is such an insensitive arse!

colddarkdarkcold · 21/12/2025 07:54

I sort of think you’re both right, although I agree the way it was phrased was very bald and could have been expressed in a way that wasn’t as blunt.

It’s been nearly thirty years since one of my brothers took his life. And I’m sometimes struck by what a different world it was: the photographs of him look very dated now in terms of hairstyles and clothes, music he liked is no longer popular, and I guess the sort of zeitgeist feel of the late 90s with Tony Blair, millennium bugs and email just emerging as a mainstream thing has completely gone, it all belongs to a different time.

In many ways it’s hard as the bereaved but it’s also a comfort. Life does move on; it doesn’t mean you ever forget your loved one of course but things need to keep moving forward, babies are born and the seasons change, children grow up, and yes, his girlfriend will move on in terms of new relationships. But that doesn’t mean what they had isn’t meaningful and wonderful.

Sunnysidegold · 21/12/2025 07:52

Op I am so sorry for your loss. I found in my experience of loss, it was really difficult to see the world keep moving. Those were lovely traditions you've created with his girlfriend. My family suffered a loss thirty years ago and each year friends of my loved one would visit my parents when they were home at Christmas. As they got older and married and moved away the visits became less frequent and it was sad that happened. My parents understood why, but it still made them sad

Your husband was really insensitive to speak to you this way.

Owly11 · 21/12/2025 07:46

He is probably upset that he and you have not been able to share your grief together in the way you and the gf shared it. He has likely felt excluded and is angry that you were sharing your grief with someone else. Your son has gone, his gf has gone and it is your dh who is still here and yet he may feel like the least important. Have the two of you had many open and frank conversations about how you are each managing your grief?

Mikart · 21/12/2025 07:39

I feel your pain as ds took his life a year ago aged 25.
I love his partner of 8 years as a daughter. I hope she finds another lovely partner as she has been robbed of her future at such a young age and deserves happiness .
However I understood how you feel. Grief is a terrible thing and it is different for everyone. You would never know I'd lost a child if you met me. But every day I cry alone thinking of the utter waste of a life and the ripple effect on so many people.
I hope you have a peaceful Xmas x

HelpMeUnpickThis · 21/12/2025 07:15

@kerikaz

I am so sorry for your loss 💐.

Your DH is not brimming with emotional intelligence is he?

I hope you have someone to talk to; you mentioned therapy. It’s ok to be sad. Grief is so layered. Take care and I hope you have a happy Christmas.

NotMySkill · 21/12/2025 07:09

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NotMySkill · 21/12/2025 07:07

Sending love to all those who have lost a child. It’s the worst of nightmares and an unimaginable grief. I am so sorry xxx