Not to have known his true age before sleeping together?

Yep and someone with an August birthday could potentially be leaving home and starting university within weeks of becoming a legal adult .

Exactly, someone whose birthday was in September they are 18 for ages whilst in Y13, doesnt make them less of an adult. I was and got a full time job by the end of that summer and rented a house (shared), bought a car. I am fairly sure I was an adult at that point as I wouldnt have legally been able to sign a contract.

There are a couple of posters on this thread who are insistent on banging on about 16 yos, or 18 yos who are school children (6th formers are not school children, even if they happen to attend at the same venue their school was). Unfortunately 18 yos are treated like children a lot of the time, there are threads on here all the time. Some at college are almost 19 by the time they finish but are considered school children? Not in the real world! Even so, totally non related to the thread anyway.

I get that without the OP actually knowing the guys age he could have been 16 or 17 which is grim as technically still legally a child but if 18 is not an adult, who has now decided what age is? They are generally not mature adults, but then nor are some 30 yo blokes.

Well in a 28 year old is classed as almost 30 then surely an 18 year old is almost 20?

But he wouldn't be in year 12/13 in school with him being 19 in April
Do you know anything about the English Education system ?
As it differs in other parts of the UK.

Yes, that is 6th form, they are not school children FFS. I feel sorry for those who are treated as such!

Yeah for a grown woman of almost 30 that’s pretty grim. He’s only been allowed an adult bank card for a few months. How on earth do you assume someone to be so much younger than you but not ask their age?

Not if you attend year 12 and 13 in school you don't, do you know anything about the UK education system?

Recent change.

www.gov.uk/government/news/legal-age-of-marriage-in-england-and-wales-rises-to-18

I was talking about 18 year olds, which is the age of the young man OP was talking about. 16 year olds are a red herring in this discussion.

I think posters just haven’t left their social circle.

He's male, never will be...............

I know, I'm 63

*That's why I maintain that it's a load of tripe that lots of 18 year olds OWN their own car. How the hell is an 18 year old buying their own car, when they're still in sixth form? 😂
As ive said many young people take on apprenticeships when they leave school. They are usually qualified by the time they are 18.

In our case both lads had completely different apprenticeships and we bought their cars, paid for lessons and insurance ( i swear the insurance nearly financially ruined us!)
And yes it is still rare for people aged 18 to own their own car, even if they live in the sticks. I live 'in the sticks' and hardly any 18 year olds can drive, and they certainly don't own their own bloody car!
This thread has reached farcical levels now, with people posting outlandish stuff in a desperate attempt to be 'right.'
*I'll leave ya to it. CBA anymore.

Its not about being 'right' just showing a different perspective.
Work with young people and some of the lads at 18 are right divvies who I wouldnt trust to make me a round of toast and jam. The spectrum of young men from being mature and responsible with the first part of their adult lives sussed to those that are as daft as a brush is massive. I dont see why that us so hard to understand.

so it depends on how you look at it, a 18year old man is considered mature enough to be a uni student or whatever 18yo men are meant to be or do a 18 year woman is considered groomed and has no power to consent to sleeping with an older person, so going by this logic over the years on MN men are smarter and can use their own mind more than women?

Can vote and get married at 16 in Scotland.

You cannot get married at 16, in England and Wales. The legal age for getting married is 18... At least try to get your facts straight.

16 year olds are NOT adults. I don't care if they can 'join the army...' 🙄So what? They can do very little else.

They can't drink booze, they can't hire a car, they can't drive, they can't buy alcohol, tobacco, vapes, fireworks, knives, lottery tickets, glue or spray paint until they're 18. They're still at bloody school til they're 18 going on 19...

That's why I maintain that it's a load of tripe that lots of 18 year olds OWN their own car. How the hell is an 18 year old buying their own car, when they're still in sixth form? 😂

And yes it is still rare for people aged 18 to own their own car, even if they live in the sticks. I live 'in the sticks' and hardly any 18 year olds can drive, and they certainly don't own their own bloody car!

This thread has reached farcical levels now, with people posting outlandish stuff in a desperate attempt to be 'right.'

I'll leave ya to it. CBA anymore.

I'm out...

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But we’ve been through this - he’s in the 18- turning 19 school year group so not a school boy age, but a uni student age. He might not be at uni, he might have left school at 16. But he’s the age group of someone who’s first year at university.

So uni student aged young man.

Zov · Today 16:39
Oh come on! The situation your son was in at 18 is not likely to be that way for the vast majority of 18 year olds. I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of teenagers I have ever known who have their own CAR. Most young people can't even get a bloody driving test for half a year these days! And if they fail, they have to wait another half a year for another test! And the vast majority of people I know (under 40 especially) certainly didn't leave school at 16. (As you say your older son did.)
And your other son was house sharing with people as a teenager, and also working and completely independent, and paying his own way?!
They are definitely the exception to the rule, and it's farcical to suggest that most teenagers will be in the same position. You're deluded if you think that!
Unless your sons were born in the 1950s, (or earlier in the 20th century!) I find their situations extremely rare.

Not that rare if you live in the sticks

Sometimes people cant see outside their expierences and are incredulous and unbelieving when things are different or not within their 'normal' range.

Not that rare if you live in the sticks.

Zov · Today 17:09
Nope. Not in the real world. Most 18 year olds do not have their own car ... 🙄
Well the world I'm in is pretty real. We are talking about 6 years ago so not the 1950s or anything.

My eldest son (DS1) began an apprenticeship at age 16, but he needed a driver’s license to perform his job properly. The day after he passed his driving test, he was already behind the wheel of the company vans.

Son 2 worked on remote farms with no access to public transport, having his own car was essential. He wasn't alone in this; many of his peers also owned cars before they turned 20."

Oh come on! The situation your son was in at 18 is not likely to be that way for the vast majority of 18 year olds. I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of teenagers I have ever known who have their own CAR. I can count on one hand the number of young people in boths sons social group that didnt pass their test before the age of 20! Most young people can't even get a bloody driving test for half a year these days! And if they fail, they have to wait another half a year for another test! And the vast majority of people I know (under 40 especially) certainly didn't leave school at 16. (As you say your older son did.)
*Ds leaving school wasn't my choice and we argued a lot about it at the time but I couldn't force him to go to college. I didnt want him to leave education but he got an apprenticeship and excelled much to my suprise and progressed quickly. They have since paid for his degree so he did what was right for him.

And your other son was house sharing with people as a teenager, and also working and completely independent, and paying his own way?!
Absolutely, he lived in a unit on a farm with a few other lads, a couple of miles from us so not far and we saw him everyday.
Again not what I expected for him but he absolutely loves what he does. I worried about him because he was working ridiculously long hours , had plenty of money in his pocket and not a lot of tome to spend it. He has also moved on and doing well.

They are definiely the exception to the rule, and it's farcical to suggest that most teenagers will be in the same position. You're deluded if you think that!

I agree many young men aren't in the same position as my two. My two have taken different career paths and are independent but they are not particularly unusual in our community. Most of their friends are the same position, by taking apprenticeships instead of uni.

We live in a cheap part of the country, people are able to get on the property market easier and early than in other places.

Unless your sons were born in the 1950s, (or earlier in the 20th century!) I find their situations extremely rare. Not in our area. Of course some of their mates went off to uni, some became fathers, a couple lost their way a bit but you are deluded if you think by the age of 18 men cant be responsible and do well for themselves.

Me too but im 52 not 28
My 18 / 19 on boxing day son could pass for a someone 25+

I slept with a sixth former when I was in my late 20s. Didn’t find out til he added me and my friend on FB. Almost 20 years on and my friend still laughs about it.

Are you in one of the US states when the age of consent is 18? In the UK it is 16, so 2 years younger she still would have been fine legally (maybe not morally) and wouldn’t have ended up in prison

I agree

but presumably you're not late 20s. The lad looked early 20s. that's not as big a gap as between you and your sons mates who you know as children.