To think drunk drivers should lose their vehicles?

Maybe in that situation he would be given a warning and you would be notified so you’re sufficiently warned this is what he’s doing.

However if it keeps happening that’s when they would tell you to either withhold the car from your partner or be prepared to lose it if he’s found endangering others with it again.

From what I’ve read it’s not black and white - owners of the car can appeal against it being taken so they probably consider each situation.

the car they drink drive in isn’t necessarily theirs

my dh doesn’t drink drive but the car he drives is technically mine. I wouldn’t be very impressed if my car was taken away for his crime!

I think if someone can’t keep what is effectively a weapon they own, out of the wrong hands then there’s definitely grounds for saying that it’s in everyone’s safety that “weapon” - in this case a car - should be removed from them.

If it affects their livelihood that’s a pity, but the problem is the relationship/drunk partner they have.

Imagine a drink driver consistently steals car keys from their partner, is caught drunk driving on a number of occasions and eventually kills someone with that same car.

And you as a family need to hear they didn’t take the car away from that home because the partner needed it for their job.

It’s not good enough really.

So yeah I agree we need to consider if the car needs to go in these situations.

Do you know an alcoholic?
You can't control what they do. They are utterly selfish.
My dad is abusive and wont let my mum hide her car keys. She needs her car for work.
If he gets her keys and drives drunk and kills people, it is NOTHING to do with her, and I am pretty pissed off that you would say it is. He is a drunk and abusive.

It is up to her. I can't do anything.

No it wouldnt but she clearly knows what he's doing it. So deserves all the comes her way. Let's hope its not crashing into another car and killing a family. If she doesn't know time you told her. So yes car gone.

Yes, it is partially her fault. She shouldn't let him have the keys.

There’s a lot to unpick there but are you supporting her in ending this abusive relationship ? There may come a time when she could end up being accountable for allowing him to drive her car.

I know it's easy to say but he can't make her not hide them if she doesn't allow him to.

I think drink drivers should be permanently banned, licence gone. forever

Yeah, cars get stolen etc

He is abusive and wont let her hide them.

Not everyone drink drives in their own car for one.

She should make sure he can't have access to the keys.

Yes, my mum owns her car that she uses for her business. It wont be her fault if my dad uses it when drunk.

Only one person owns a car. If you let or know your partner is going to drive your car while drunk, though luck!

Well I've learned something tonight, never knew that, 83% of convictions apparently.

Given that almost all drink and drug drivers are male there are some other things they could usefully lose................

Well the partner of Thomas Cashman had a 'business' that almost certainly was used for money laundering. They were renting (common practice for criminals apparently, presumably because it's easier to pay cash with no questions asked) so she's gone back to a council estate with the kids.

I'm not sure a lifetime ban is proportionate for a first offence but I certainly would advocate a lifetime ban for any repeat offenders.

Not necessarily

He was a porter in a children's hospital. His name and crime was posted in the paper, so he was shamed enough. It did not affect his job though.
He lost his license for a year, had a big fine, had to go on a course, and his insurance went up so much, he could not afford a car again. He ended up getting a moped.

I don’t think drink drivers are unemployed - in fact I think it’s the opposite and many people who work stressful jobs use it as an excuse.

But I think instead of bog standard community service, the roles should be related to the crimes they commit.

Although I’m not sure how it would work for people like your ex who likely worked with people affected by road traffic accidents and still did it.

Despite my previous post, unpaid work is incredibly complicated and costly to deliver. You would not believe the number of people who suddenly become unable to ‘work’ when faced with Unpaid Work Orders ! And, don’t forget they have to be monitored.

Working in hospitals, lunch clubs, clearing gardens, litter picking, etc. etc. all have to be monitored and could take work away from employed people.

It's a minefield.

I believe that not only should the punishment fit the crime but also fit the offender. No point fining a millionaire £100 but tag them and confine them to their home 7pm - 7am for a while....?

This seems to be widespread across a number of European countries. In France a judge can order confiscation or in some cases must order. A co owner can object as can defendant. this includes some compulsory.
Compulsory confiscation
The judge must order forfeiture of your vehicle if you commit one of the following offenses:
Recurrent driving while under the influence of alcohol
Recurrent drunk driving
Repetition of refusal to submit to blood alcohol level checks
Recurrent driving after drug use
Repeated refusal to submit to drug use checks
Repeated driving of a vehicle not equipped with an immobilizer, despite a prohibition by a judge following a conviction for drinking and driving
Repetition of refusal to comply
Refusal to comply in case of aggravating circumstances
Recurrence of large excess speed (equal to or greater than 50 km/h of the maximum authorized speed)
Manslaughter while driving in aggravating circumstances
Unintentional injuries while driving in aggravating circumstances
Driving a vehicle with a false driving license
Driving a vehicle despite a judicial decision to suspend, cancel or prohibit the issue of the license
Motorized rodeo
However, the judge may not impose the confiscation penalty provided that give reasons for its decision. For example, because of the circumstances of the offense, your personality, the value of the vehicle, the consequences of a confiscation on the living conditions of your relatives.

Why are you assuming that drunk drivers are unemployed?
I had an ex that was caught drunk driving. He was already working in a hospital.