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To not go back to full time work

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Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 19:19

Just looking for some advise on if I would be silly/unreasonable to not return to full time work post kids.

For a bit of background I currently have a toddler and due baby number 2 soon. I left my retail management job after finishing maternity leave with DC 1 and I have just worked 2 days a week as a shop assistant for the last year and now currently on maternity leave before DC2 comes in a few months.

My partner earns around 50k although this may decrease slightly in the next 2 years as we are moving areas and he may come off nights.

I have no desire to go back to a management career as I don't want to lose out on the time with my kids or the stress. I looked at what I would earn full time minimum wage in a full time job (as well as pension contributions) which would be a bring home of around 19500 and £75 a month into my pension.

However the cost of wrap around childcare (if we only had 2 children) as well as holiday clubs would cost around £10500 (based on current costs who knows in 2-4 years when kids start school.

Personally as someone who doesn't want to move up the career ladder would I be better off just staying as a basic shop worker 2 days a week and having more time with my kids?

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Karma1387 · 21/12/2025 09:35

MrsMoastyToasty · 21/12/2025 09:16

Get married (doesn't have to be a fancy do).
If you're not earning enough to pay income tax then look at the Married Tax Allowance.

Yeah we aren't planning on doing anything expensive. Will just be a registry office thing just us.

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Gallivant · 21/12/2025 09:22

God, I'm glad my mother wasn't such a wetwipe.

THisbackwithavengeance · 21/12/2025 09:19

I get you’re not fussed for marriage. But this isn’t about a ceremony and fuss and expense. This is business.

MrsMoastyToasty · 21/12/2025 09:16

Get married (doesn't have to be a fancy do).
If you're not earning enough to pay income tax then look at the Married Tax Allowance.

VioletSpeedwell · 21/12/2025 09:11

lso, is your partner on board with you throwing away your career and ambition? I have a friend who did this, she became a mum and a housewife and her husband quickly got frustrated with her lack of get up and go, her drive and diversity of conversation (which is inevitable when you're focus is on the home and parenting).

😂

VioletSpeedwell · 21/12/2025 08:49

His pension at the moment is very small so I guess I haven't felt much of a rush as we don't have an assets etc at the moment to worry about

Give it 10 years when it's had the opportunity to compound. Then you'll see why marriage is important.

Pensions and long term stability are sort of on hold whilst I am on maternity and we are clearing some debt and looking to move areas. After that and we have more spare income we will look at increasing pension contributions and paying mortgage quicker

Good plan to clear debt. I also recommend doing the free Rebel Finance School on YouTube. You'll learn about investing, pensions and whether it's a good idea to pay off the mortgage early. Take a look - it's fab!

And remember, you can catch up with pensions but you can't catch up on your children's early years. Once DD was grown up we were able to put a lot more into our pensions and they're doing just fine.

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:25

MyQuirkyFinch · 20/12/2025 22:20

You seem to have made your mind up. Just seems a shame to me to not try to find something where you can progress and build a career. Particularly as it doesn’t sound like you’re particularly financially stable with debts to clear etc.

In my experience, the optimum scenario is to get as senior as you possibly can before having children because that gives you more options in terms of flexible working after you have children.

there’s almost nobody I know in any job who has children and is working full-time hours with no flexibility at all. For example, I know a nurse who has an agreement that she doesn’t work Wednesdays so she knows she’ll never need childcare on that day, I know loads of people who do early finish on a Friday so they can pick up from school at 3, I know lots who work from home on certain days which means they don’t need breakfast club because they can drop straight to school and be back at their desks around 9, I know shift workers who do a certain early or late pattern so they pick up or drop off.

I think it really depends on your industry. In my previous managerial role I was required to work between 6.30am-10pm between 5-7 days a week sometimes full 6.30-10 days. Flexible working requests were denied due to 'business needs of the role' so unfortunately that sort of job isn't something I could go back to after kids.

But I understand you can get nhs or office jobs where you can request fixed hours or 4 day working weeks but all of that would involve starting from the bottom and me still missing out on so much time with the kids and would also still have the before/afterschool and holiday childcare costs.

I think a lot of it boils down to what I decide means more to me. Time with the kids or money.

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MyQuirkyFinch · 20/12/2025 22:20

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:47

The primary school we are looking at when we move is £3500 per child for breakfast and after school club so 7k per year if 2 children and holiday clubs for 9 weeks (assuming we use 4 weeks annual leave for the remaining 4) is £1750 per child so £3500 per year so a total of £10.5k per year total.

I absolutely love retail. Its the only job I have ever done that I enjoy and was good at. The hours just dont work with kids and a partner also in retail management.

I could consider working as a TA in a primary school or somethiny but I would assume i would still need after school clubs as I guess you wouldnt finish bang on school finish time plus travel and with not getting paid for the holidays I can't imagine id be earning much more than I do currently but possibly would have after school clubs to factor in to costs.

You seem to have made your mind up. Just seems a shame to me to not try to find something where you can progress and build a career. Particularly as it doesn’t sound like you’re particularly financially stable with debts to clear etc.

In my experience, the optimum scenario is to get as senior as you possibly can before having children because that gives you more options in terms of flexible working after you have children.

there’s almost nobody I know in any job who has children and is working full-time hours with no flexibility at all. For example, I know a nurse who has an agreement that she doesn’t work Wednesdays so she knows she’ll never need childcare on that day, I know loads of people who do early finish on a Friday so they can pick up from school at 3, I know lots who work from home on certain days which means they don’t need breakfast club because they can drop straight to school and be back at their desks around 9, I know shift workers who do a certain early or late pattern so they pick up or drop off.

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:20

hettie · 20/12/2025 22:17

See . .. politely your understanding of the long term being solely related to pensions is what we older Mumsneters are worried about. You are unmarried work part time, your labour is in childcare and the domestic which as an unmarried partner has no protection in law. You might value it but legally society doesn't unless you are married.
What happens if/when your kids are in their late teens you split? You've spent 14 odd years working at a basic level (less than your current role) and part time. He walks off with the earning potential of someone whose focused full time on his career for 14 years. You've no claim on assets AND you've given up your safety net because you've.assumed he'll support you whatever.. without the legal protection of marriage it's just your choice no joint decision will be recognised. A court won't care that "you both felt that the best thing was...." You are choosing to make yourself vulnerable. Which is fine, but if you end up being 40+ with only 2 days a week experience in a customer facing role that a 20 something could do then trust me you're doing to struggle to shift that.....

Oh no I totally understand we need to sort out getting married its more I can't see an issue with waiting 6-12 months as currently there is no real benefit but I completely understand that for long term protection in case things went wrong we need to look to get married in the next year or so.

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hettie · 20/12/2025 22:17

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:49

This can be dealt with prior to me going back to work in 2027 although as previously mentioned currently there isn't much pension to be divided it we then divorced but I understand long term that will change so worth getting married to cover that.

See . .. politely your understanding of the long term being solely related to pensions is what we older Mumsneters are worried about. You are unmarried work part time, your labour is in childcare and the domestic which as an unmarried partner has no protection in law. You might value it but legally society doesn't unless you are married.
What happens if/when your kids are in their late teens you split? You've spent 14 odd years working at a basic level (less than your current role) and part time. He walks off with the earning potential of someone whose focused full time on his career for 14 years. You've no claim on assets AND you've given up your safety net because you've.assumed he'll support you whatever.. without the legal protection of marriage it's just your choice no joint decision will be recognised. A court won't care that "you both felt that the best thing was...." You are choosing to make yourself vulnerable. Which is fine, but if you end up being 40+ with only 2 days a week experience in a customer facing role that a 20 something could do then trust me you're doing to struggle to shift that.....

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:15

Ritual9 · 20/12/2025 22:10

Can you really afford for you to work so few hours? Especially as you sound like you have some debt and want to move house?

We can afford it. We wont have loads of money to save/invest but that wouldnt be any different if I worked a full time minimum wage job. Only if I went back to a well earning career.

We should be able to afford a bit of saving as well as a holiday. Obviously if my partner continues to build up his career we would have more.

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Ritual9 · 20/12/2025 22:10

Can you really afford for you to work so few hours? Especially as you sound like you have some debt and want to move house?

Superhansrantowindsor · 20/12/2025 22:10

I went part time when I had my dc. Never went back full time and dc are now adults. It works for us. DH likes the fact that I am not dead stressed with work and I enjoy cooking and gardening etc which means he doesn’t have to do it. I agree with others that you are vulnerable being unmarried but there is nothing wrong with working part time if you can afford it and if your partner supports the decision. Many posters would be horrified at my lack of ambition in climbing the career ladder but I am very content with my job and what I have achieved. We don’t care much for material things. We can afford to live in what I consider to be a nice home and have a holiday every year. We have no debt and enjoy our situation very much.
If I could go back in time I’d do exactly the same again. I adored spending as much time as possible with my children.

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:05

Ratioed · 20/12/2025 22:00

Between now and then, your boyfriend can change his will, pension beneficiary, and death-in-service beneficiary without telling you.

If you depend on him for rent/mortgage, you’re at his mercy.

I am at his mercy with rent/mortgage even if we are married.

As for death in service, life insurance etc he could change this even if we were married. The only benefit at the moment to beiny married is the pension which would get me around 10k into my pension currently so I didn't really think waitint 6 months to a year really made a difference?

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Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:01

Jk987 · 20/12/2025 21:57

Why have you started mat leave when your baby is not due yet?

Because I have struggled through most of the pregnancy and was in a lot of pain making it very hard to do the job (plus working nights was hard before getting pregnant but even worse when pregnant) and I am a high risk pregnancy with a lot of appointments so I decided to put my health first and go off as soon as I could.

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Genevieva · 20/12/2025 22:01

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:53

Things must have changed a bit since my last office job. It used to be 40 hours with an hours break. So a full time minimum wage is based on 37.5 hours at 12.21 so £23809. Still wouldn't change the fact I bring home more working 2 nights without having to pay childcare than I would full time and paying childcare.

Of course if I was willing to work my way back up in a different sector I could earn more but I wouldn't want that until kids are at least out of primary.

Employers can be more generous. Many will do 8 hour days including a whole hour of paid lunch break, but they don’t have to. In law they don’t have to pay for breaks and they only have to offer 30 minutes after 4 hours work. Obviously many jobs don’t work like that at all. You are paid for the job, whether you have time for a lunch break or not.

Ratioed · 20/12/2025 22:00

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:49

This can be dealt with prior to me going back to work in 2027 although as previously mentioned currently there isn't much pension to be divided it we then divorced but I understand long term that will change so worth getting married to cover that.

Between now and then, your boyfriend can change his will, pension beneficiary, and death-in-service beneficiary without telling you.

If you depend on him for rent/mortgage, you’re at his mercy.

Jk987 · 20/12/2025 21:57

Why have you started mat leave when your baby is not due yet?

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:55

Candleabra · 20/12/2025 21:39

The grass is always greener. I always worked full time and I do have regrets about missing out on more time with my children when they were younger.
But… I have kept a good career going and hopefully can reduce hours a bit now, whilst still maintaining a good pension (those early years count for so much more than trying to set one up later). And, most importantly, I was widowed at a young age and I’d have been absolutely fucked if I hadn’t had a good job. It meant I could keep the house, and stability for the children during an awful time. Life doesn’t always work out how you think it will.

Life of course throws curve balls and there is no way to guaruntee anything in life. But luckily my partner has a good death in service through work as well as a good life insurance so in that very awful circumstance we would be okay but if we split that would be different and more complicated.

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Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:53

Genevieva · 20/12/2025 21:48

Full time is 40 hours a week with a right to a 30 minute unpaid lunch hour.

Things must have changed a bit since my last office job. It used to be 40 hours with an hours break. So a full time minimum wage is based on 37.5 hours at 12.21 so £23809. Still wouldn't change the fact I bring home more working 2 nights without having to pay childcare than I would full time and paying childcare.

Of course if I was willing to work my way back up in a different sector I could earn more but I wouldn't want that until kids are at least out of primary.

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Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:49

Ratioed · 20/12/2025 21:41

At the risk of sounding like a broken record:

Do. Not. Financially. Depend. On. A. Boyfriend. When. The. Roof. Over. Your. Children’s. Heads. Depends. On. It.

This can be dealt with prior to me going back to work in 2027 although as previously mentioned currently there isn't much pension to be divided it we then divorced but I understand long term that will change so worth getting married to cover that.

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Genevieva · 20/12/2025 21:48

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:23

If minimum wage is 12.21 and most jobs at 35 hours (8 hour days 1 hour break) over 52 weeks a year is just over 22k.

I get the funded childcare at the moment which is helpful for sleeping before/after shifts plus my little boy loves it. And the funded hours over the full year is only like 22 hours so I would only be in the position to work 4 hours more than I do currently without it costing more for childcare so I wouldn't consider it worth anymore whilst kids are at nursery.

In theory I could move to a different managerial job (I am from retail management background) but would likely have to start at the bottom and hoenstly I don't think I would want the stress of a managerial job with kids.

But thank you for your viewpoint its give a different opinion for us to consider.

Full time is 40 hours a week with a right to a 30 minute unpaid lunch hour.

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 21:47

MyQuirkyFinch · 20/12/2025 21:38

My daughter is in a south London primary school and full time wrap around (breakfast club and after school club) is £3600. There’s obviously the school holidays to think about too but I share childcare with some other parents and do a bit of holiday club so it’s not too pricey.

Are you sure you’ve got your sums right?

Alternatively if you've fallen out of love with retail could you spend the time they’re at nursery/school retraining for something with better hours/prospects?

The primary school we are looking at when we move is £3500 per child for breakfast and after school club so 7k per year if 2 children and holiday clubs for 9 weeks (assuming we use 4 weeks annual leave for the remaining 4) is £1750 per child so £3500 per year so a total of £10.5k per year total.

I absolutely love retail. Its the only job I have ever done that I enjoy and was good at. The hours just dont work with kids and a partner also in retail management.

I could consider working as a TA in a primary school or somethiny but I would assume i would still need after school clubs as I guess you wouldnt finish bang on school finish time plus travel and with not getting paid for the holidays I can't imagine id be earning much more than I do currently but possibly would have after school clubs to factor in to costs.

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Ratioed · 20/12/2025 21:41

At the risk of sounding like a broken record:

Do. Not. Financially. Depend. On. A. Boyfriend. When. The. Roof. Over. Your. Children’s. Heads. Depends. On. It.

Candleabra · 20/12/2025 21:39

The grass is always greener. I always worked full time and I do have regrets about missing out on more time with my children when they were younger.
But… I have kept a good career going and hopefully can reduce hours a bit now, whilst still maintaining a good pension (those early years count for so much more than trying to set one up later). And, most importantly, I was widowed at a young age and I’d have been absolutely fucked if I hadn’t had a good job. It meant I could keep the house, and stability for the children during an awful time. Life doesn’t always work out how you think it will.

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