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Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 19:19

Just looking for some advise on if I would be silly/unreasonable to not return to full time work post kids.

For a bit of background I currently have a toddler and due baby number 2 soon. I left my retail management job after finishing maternity leave with DC 1 and I have just worked 2 days a week as a shop assistant for the last year and now currently on maternity leave before DC2 comes in a few months.

My partner earns around 50k although this may decrease slightly in the next 2 years as we are moving areas and he may come off nights.

I have no desire to go back to a management career as I don't want to lose out on the time with my kids or the stress. I looked at what I would earn full time minimum wage in a full time job (as well as pension contributions) which would be a bring home of around 19500 and £75 a month into my pension.

However the cost of wrap around childcare (if we only had 2 children) as well as holiday clubs would cost around £10500 (based on current costs who knows in 2-4 years when kids start school.

Personally as someone who doesn't want to move up the career ladder would I be better off just staying as a basic shop worker 2 days a week and having more time with my kids?

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OlPennyRadford · 23/01/2026 00:59

A shame to read a thread about potentially the most exciting next steps in your life jump straight to divorce and death!
Absolutely, work part-time if the sums add up for you both, and it sounds like your priority is family over work, which is perfectly valid despite much of what i've just read. I imagine you would continue to do 1 or 2 days when the children are young (in my estimation the next 5 years or so) then you can always return to more hours. Best of luck however you decide to go ahead

blueshoes · 26/12/2025 20:33

Parker231 · 26/12/2025 16:46

I financially didn’t need to return to work but chose to go back full time after six months maternity leave. Continuing to progress in my career was important.

Agree, as is continuing to build up pension contributions which compound over time. And maintaining an identity and worldview outside of being a wife and mother.

Parker231 · 26/12/2025 16:46

Thuraya17 · 26/12/2025 15:54

Is this even a question? If you won’t be better off financially why would you do it?

I financially didn’t need to return to work but chose to go back full time after six months maternity leave. Continuing to progress in my career was important.

Thuraya17 · 26/12/2025 15:54

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 19:19

Just looking for some advise on if I would be silly/unreasonable to not return to full time work post kids.

For a bit of background I currently have a toddler and due baby number 2 soon. I left my retail management job after finishing maternity leave with DC 1 and I have just worked 2 days a week as a shop assistant for the last year and now currently on maternity leave before DC2 comes in a few months.

My partner earns around 50k although this may decrease slightly in the next 2 years as we are moving areas and he may come off nights.

I have no desire to go back to a management career as I don't want to lose out on the time with my kids or the stress. I looked at what I would earn full time minimum wage in a full time job (as well as pension contributions) which would be a bring home of around 19500 and £75 a month into my pension.

However the cost of wrap around childcare (if we only had 2 children) as well as holiday clubs would cost around £10500 (based on current costs who knows in 2-4 years when kids start school.

Personally as someone who doesn't want to move up the career ladder would I be better off just staying as a basic shop worker 2 days a week and having more time with my kids?

Is this even a question? If you won’t be better off financially why would you do it?

OneLilacCrow · 24/12/2025 08:45

You talk about the ‘generous benefit system’ for single parents whilst forgetting that it is the tax payer who pays for it.I can’t improve my earnings as I am retired and I have lost the winter fuel allowance for pensioners this year. I am really angered by people who think they can just stay at home and let the state foot the bill.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 20:02

Truetoself · 23/12/2025 19:53

Do you have family money or something? Or are your outgoing very low? i am pleased to hear that on an income of £70K a year, you can be mortgage free when you are in your 50’s. I guess it depends on the cost of your house.

Based on everything you said, I don’t think there is a lot to be gained by you working more. Sounds as though you are able to give your kids everything they need (rather than want).

to the high earner PP who said she has full flexibility as she is senior in her career - this is something I try to tell YP who are trying to go into a career such as in Medicine or when the career is appointment or schedule based. Unfortunately most YP don’t get it. The point being not all careers offer the same flexibility irrespective of seniority.

@Karma1387the only other thing I would double check with it to ensure your DP is 10% on board with the plan and doesn’t resent being the pressure of working outside the home and being the main breadwinner.

No family money at all. Our outgoings are reasonably low. The area we are planning on moving to is only 200-250k for a 3-4 bed semi or detached house. My partner has a car on lease so that is expensive but our mortgage will be under 1k a month. We will have a loan of about 386 a month when we move. The rest of our expenses are just food, savings and subscriptions so we should 100% be able to pay off the mortgage in max 20 years. Sooner if we put his annual bonus on it plus his likely promotion in that time.

At the moment he is 100% on board as he knows I wont work full time whilst the kids are super young. Things could change as they get older but thats something we can discuss. I wouldn't ever do it if he wasnt happy with the situation, so if things change in his opinion eventually we will reevalute things.

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Truetoself · 23/12/2025 19:53

Do you have family money or something? Or are your outgoing very low? i am pleased to hear that on an income of £70K a year, you can be mortgage free when you are in your 50’s. I guess it depends on the cost of your house.

Based on everything you said, I don’t think there is a lot to be gained by you working more. Sounds as though you are able to give your kids everything they need (rather than want).

to the high earner PP who said she has full flexibility as she is senior in her career - this is something I try to tell YP who are trying to go into a career such as in Medicine or when the career is appointment or schedule based. Unfortunately most YP don’t get it. The point being not all careers offer the same flexibility irrespective of seniority.

@Karma1387the only other thing I would double check with it to ensure your DP is 10% on board with the plan and doesn’t resent being the pressure of working outside the home and being the main breadwinner.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 19:17

Parker231 · 23/12/2025 19:13

DT’s got the tube to school and back on their own from age 11. Although they did lots of after school activities, sometimes they were home before DH and I. Wasn’t a problem - they helped themselves to a snack and we had dinner together when we were all home.

Interesting to know. Possibly means I could go back to work full time in 11-12 years depending on if we have another baby or not.

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Parker231 · 23/12/2025 19:13

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 17:19

I didn't think kids were meant to be left alone until 13?

DT’s got the tube to school and back on their own from age 11. Although they did lots of after school activities, sometimes they were home before DH and I. Wasn’t a problem - they helped themselves to a snack and we had dinner together when we were all home.

blankcanvas3 · 23/12/2025 17:23

You wouldn’t be unreasonable - but I would honestly get married ASAP. More for the security than anything else as you want to be covered just in case the worst happens and you’re only working PT. I worked until we got married and then gave it up. FWIW, I loved being at home for my eldest even when he was old enough to be by himself. I didnt find myself rattling around the house or anything

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 17:19

Tink3rbell30 · 23/12/2025 16:51

Nothing wrong with that plan with young children but there is absolutely no need to be hanging around the house 3 days a week with older children until they turn 12/13.

I didn't think kids were meant to be left alone until 13?

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Tink3rbell30 · 23/12/2025 16:51

Nothing wrong with that plan with young children but there is absolutely no need to be hanging around the house 3 days a week with older children until they turn 12/13.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 14:22

blueshoes · 23/12/2025 14:17

In many careers, people don't gain seniority and flexibility until the kids are closer to teenagers or older. It is a question of whether you are prepared to do the hard yards now or postpone it till later. Many parents find they become indispensable when the children are older as their problems become more complex (emotional, SEN, relationships, academics, career choices) that only a parent can help resolve. No nanny can even hope to touch those issues.

It is easy when the dcs are younger as any kind carer can soothe a scuffed knee.

I understand your not wanting to miss their childhood. But that is arguably more for your benefit. The real benefit for your dcs is for you to build up your career when they are young so that you come into seniority and flexibility and be around for them when they need you the most.

In addition, don't underestimate the leg up that financial support you have the option of providing for their university/maintenance and house deposit. It is now an inheritocracy and those dcs with the Bank of Mum and Dad to help them will pull away from the rest of their peers in ways which are very unfair and lead to generational advantages.

I realise my post has come out harsher than I expected. Just a message from someone with older kids.

Not harsh at all dont worry.

I guess financially we could afford for me to not work more than part time until the kids are adults. We already have a savings account so they have a leg up for either university or house deposits (my son actually has more savings than us currently and hes not even 2)

But I can always keep an eye over the next few years to see if anything comes up which appeals and works for us.

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blueshoes · 23/12/2025 14:17

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 13:53

Oh yeah im sure if I had gone down a different career path I would have been in the situation where I possibly would have had more flexability.

Unfortunately that isn't the case in retail and starting at the bottom in another career would mean not gaining the level of flexability I want until the kids are older so doesn't work now unfortunately.

In many careers, people don't gain seniority and flexibility until the kids are closer to teenagers or older. It is a question of whether you are prepared to do the hard yards now or postpone it till later. Many parents find they become indispensable when the children are older as their problems become more complex (emotional, SEN, relationships, academics, career choices) that only a parent can help resolve. No nanny can even hope to touch those issues.

It is easy when the dcs are younger as any kind carer can soothe a scuffed knee.

I understand your not wanting to miss their childhood. But that is arguably more for your benefit. The real benefit for your dcs is for you to build up your career when they are young so that you come into seniority and flexibility and be around for them when they need you the most.

In addition, don't underestimate the leg up that financial support you have the option of providing for their university/maintenance and house deposit. It is now an inheritocracy and those dcs with the Bank of Mum and Dad to help them will pull away from the rest of their peers in ways which are very unfair and lead to generational advantages.

I realise my post has come out harsher than I expected. Just a message from someone with older kids.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 14:06

AorticValve · 23/12/2025 14:02

The early years of paying into a pension are so much more important than the later ones because of compounding.

So many people say 'next year' about marriage and saving but next year is like tomorrow. It never comes because kids and life end up being far more expensive than planned.

I hope it works out for you.

The marriage will be like £400 so thats not a concern about that not happening next year.

I appreciate what you are saying about compounding for pensions. I will lool at our finances and see if we can add a bit more to it each month.

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AorticValve · 23/12/2025 14:02

The early years of paying into a pension are so much more important than the later ones because of compounding.

So many people say 'next year' about marriage and saving but next year is like tomorrow. It never comes because kids and life end up being far more expensive than planned.

I hope it works out for you.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 13:53

amazinggrace321 · 23/12/2025 13:47

The thing is it’s possible to do both. I appreciate I’m fortunate in my career choice but I am a high earner and have full flexibility so can be there for every sports day etc (my 2 are in primary school). I earn well, have built a good career (and pension), am around with the children and can always support them in future with university, house deposit. Building a career gives you more flexibility, although I appreciate that may not be so in retail.

Oh yeah im sure if I had gone down a different career path I would have been in the situation where I possibly would have had more flexability.

Unfortunately that isn't the case in retail and starting at the bottom in another career would mean not gaining the level of flexability I want until the kids are older so doesn't work now unfortunately.

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amazinggrace321 · 23/12/2025 13:47

The thing is it’s possible to do both. I appreciate I’m fortunate in my career choice but I am a high earner and have full flexibility so can be there for every sports day etc (my 2 are in primary school). I earn well, have built a good career (and pension), am around with the children and can always support them in future with university, house deposit. Building a career gives you more flexibility, although I appreciate that may not be so in retail.

Holluschickie · 23/12/2025 13:46

Ok.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 13:40

Holluschickie · 23/12/2025 13:34

You have clearly made your mind up.

Honestly this thread has helped me make it. Nobody has actually made any good reason for why I shouldn't be there fully for my kids except for a pension.

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Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 13:39

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/12/2025 13:30

You keep banging on about your partner's pension - why are you not concerned about building your own pension pot? Contributing equally to any future mortgage? Maybe even saving for your children's university education?

You have debt and children. I would suggest you need to get back to full-time work asap.

I have savings accounts for DC to save for their future.

Why would I prioritise working full time and contributing 'equally to the mortgage' if my partner doesn't have an issue with this. When I could prioritise my children and actually being there for them.

I don't need a huge pension. I aim to be mortgage free by the time I am 45-50. My monthly outgoings will be minimal by the time I retire. Once the debt has gone I will put a bit more into my pension.

Literally the only reasons on this entire thread for why I shouldn't stay part time is because I'm not married (which will be sorted next year' and because I should prioritise my pension over my kids. Neither of those seem like good reasons to miss out on my kids childhood.

I have another 40 years before I hit retirement age. I think giving up 10-15 of those to be there fully for my kids is worth it when the only loss is my pension.

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Holluschickie · 23/12/2025 13:34

You have clearly made your mind up.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/12/2025 13:30

Karma1387 · 20/12/2025 22:05

I am at his mercy with rent/mortgage even if we are married.

As for death in service, life insurance etc he could change this even if we were married. The only benefit at the moment to beiny married is the pension which would get me around 10k into my pension currently so I didn't really think waitint 6 months to a year really made a difference?

You keep banging on about your partner's pension - why are you not concerned about building your own pension pot? Contributing equally to any future mortgage? Maybe even saving for your children's university education?

You have debt and children. I would suggest you need to get back to full-time work asap.

Karma1387 · 23/12/2025 13:14

SErunner · 23/12/2025 13:13

Get married and work to maintain some financial independence + work opportunities in the future. You’re very naive if you think it’s impossible for things to go wrong and that the previous aren’t essential in your situation.

We will sort getting married later in 2026 and I am still working 2 days a week even if its only as a shop assistant it keeps my foot in the door.

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SErunner · 23/12/2025 13:13

Get married and work to maintain some financial independence + work opportunities in the future. You’re very naive if you think it’s impossible for things to go wrong and that the previous aren’t essential in your situation.

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