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Just got shouted at in a coffee shop for coughing in public 🥴

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wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 15:47

I know I’m not being unreasonable here but I just need some reassurance! I was in a coffee shop after popping to the shops and got a tickle in my throat. I’ve had a cold all week but nothing too severe. I coughed and next thing I know an old man is shouting at me that I’m being selfish and should be self isolating at home, and “don’t I know the NHS is on its knees?!”

AIBU to think this is a total overreaction to a cough?!

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wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:27

StandingSideBySide · 20/12/2025 18:27

and an awful lot of hospitals are

They’re not.

As per the NHS this weekend they’re functioning as normal. Levels of people in hospital with flu are no higher than usual.

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wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:27

StandingSideBySide · 20/12/2025 18:25

It is

From the Guardian

“An NHS leader has said people who are unwell with flu “must” wear a mask in public.

A UK government official has said if you need to go out while sick, you should only “consider” wearing a mask.
So what is the official advice, how serious is the threat posed by flu, and what should you do if have symptoms?

What did the NHS leader say?
Speaking to Times Radio, Daniel Elkeles, the chief executive of NHS Providers, which represents NHS trusts, said the UK was experiencing a “very nasty strain of flu” and people with flu or cold symptoms “must” wear a mask in public.

  • Stay Home if Possible: If you have symptoms, avoid visiting others if you can.
Essentially, if you're coughing and going near unwell or vulnerable people, masking up is a simple way to be considerate and follow current best practices for infection control

Dr Jamie Lopez Bernal, a consultant epidemiologist at UKHSA, said: “If you have flu-like symptoms such as a high temperature, cough or are feeling tired and achy – limit contact with others, especially those at higher risk.
“Wash your hands regularly, keep indoor spaces well-ventilated, and if you need to go out while unwell, consider wearing a face mask.”

So it’s not actually NHS guidance, and instead is the opinion of one man?

I work for the NHS. when they say we have to wear masks, maybe I’ll consider it.

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StandingSideBySide · 20/12/2025 18:27

Lastfroginthebox · 20/12/2025 18:24

That would be a ridiculous overreaction to an ordinary cold. Life would come to a standstill if everyone did that.

and an awful lot of hospitals are

Binus · 20/12/2025 18:27

blacksax · 20/12/2025 18:23

I despair.

I have asthma. It sometimes makes me cough. Am I supposed to stay at home and away from society for ever, just in case someone hears me coughing and thinks I'm spraying deadly germs all over them?

Some of the selfish arseholes on this thread appear to think so.

Parsleyforme · 20/12/2025 18:26

Colds are horrible to have but they are so common that if everyone stayed at home when they had one the country wouldn’t be able to function and kids would never go to school or nursery.

If you have genuine flu or a chest infection then yes don’t spread it around. But simply coughing or sneezing should be acceptable in public. We have all had random sneezes or even choked on our own saliva for no reason.

XenoBitch · 20/12/2025 18:26

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:23

Sorry? The OP has lung cancer now does she? If I heard a raspy cough like the OP describes I would feel uneasy yes.

No, but you are one of the many posters who has said anyone with a cough should stay at home. A PP said she has a cough as she lung cancer.

StandingSideBySide · 20/12/2025 18:25

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:15

It’s not, and I don’t own a mask.

It is

From the Guardian

“An NHS leader has said people who are unwell with flu “must” wear a mask in public.

A UK government official has said if you need to go out while sick, you should only “consider” wearing a mask.
So what is the official advice, how serious is the threat posed by flu, and what should you do if have symptoms?

What did the NHS leader say?
Speaking to Times Radio, Daniel Elkeles, the chief executive of NHS Providers, which represents NHS trusts, said the UK was experiencing a “very nasty strain of flu” and people with flu or cold symptoms “must” wear a mask in public.

  • Stay Home if Possible: If you have symptoms, avoid visiting others if you can.
Essentially, if you're coughing and going near unwell or vulnerable people, masking up is a simple way to be considerate and follow current best practices for infection control

Dr Jamie Lopez Bernal, a consultant epidemiologist at UKHSA, said: “If you have flu-like symptoms such as a high temperature, cough or are feeling tired and achy – limit contact with others, especially those at higher risk.
“Wash your hands regularly, keep indoor spaces well-ventilated, and if you need to go out while unwell, consider wearing a face mask.”

NHS | The Guardian

Latest news, sport, business, comment, analysis and reviews from the Guardian, the world's leading liberal voice

https://www.theguardian.com/society/nhs

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:25

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:23

Sorry? The OP has lung cancer now does she? If I heard a raspy cough like the OP describes I would feel uneasy yes.

I never described it as “raspy”

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wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:24

cantbearsed27 · 20/12/2025 18:17

Rude old asshole. You can bet he wouldn't have shouted at a man like that.

The change in temperature from hot to cold and cold to hot makes my nose run and makes me sneeze, it's called vasomotor rhinitus and I'm not going to stay home because of it!

If you've got a fever and feel really unwell then stay at home, if you're just sneezing a bit or got a cough then of course you don't stay at home. People can pass things on without ever having any symptoms including covid and flu, so if you're terried of either of them them you need to stay away from everyone.

I’m quite glad I’ve had my sinus surgery now seeing how people turn into nutters. I used to be able to sneeze 20-30 times in a row, for no other reason than my sinuses were irritated. Usually happened during hay fever season. It was horrendous

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Lastfroginthebox · 20/12/2025 18:24

LadyKenya · 20/12/2025 15:51

You sound like you are still harbouring a cold, and should stay at home.

That would be a ridiculous overreaction to an ordinary cold. Life would come to a standstill if everyone did that.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 20/12/2025 18:23

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 20/12/2025 18:10

People are scared of catching flu. To be honest I was fuming at a woman who was following me around The Range in the week absolutely hacking her guts up. Didn’t matter what aisle I dived down shed reappear. Stay at bloody home.

Honestly, it's not the prospect of catching flu that scares me, it's the sound of someone else hacking up that makes my skin crawl. I'd feel sympathy for them way before any anger.

Then again there are so many other things that can happen to anyone at any time. Flu? Cold? Get jabbed up and relax. Car suddenly comes off the road? Terrorist attack? Yeah, I'd rather have the flu, thanks.

blacksax · 20/12/2025 18:23

I despair.

I have asthma. It sometimes makes me cough. Am I supposed to stay at home and away from society for ever, just in case someone hears me coughing and thinks I'm spraying deadly germs all over them?

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:23

XenoBitch · 20/12/2025 18:20

So the PP who coughs from having lung cancer should stay home forever so you can be less anxious?

Sorry? The OP has lung cancer now does she? If I heard a raspy cough like the OP describes I would feel uneasy yes.

StrawberryRed22 · 20/12/2025 18:23

cantbearsed27 · 20/12/2025 18:19

How do people know if they're contagious or not? And why are you allowed to go out with a cold but not them?

No one can know for certain when they are contagious. Most colds will have about a week where you are the most contagious, a day or two before symptoms and about five days with symptoms. You can be contagious for a few weeks but there is less risk as it goes on.

Anyone is allowed to go out whenever they like. I try to avoid doing so when I have symptoms other than a post-viral cough.

Dawnb19 · 20/12/2025 18:23

It's hard to be annoyed at people like this even if they are being very rude. Some people are terrified. Especially they older generation who watch or listen to the news quit a lot. I wouldn't take it personally.

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:23

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:21

That is really bloody rude. I actually can’t be bothered to engage with you. Go right ahead with your self righteousness.

It’s a genuine question because my dad is coughing probably 90% of the time due to COPD. It sounds awful, but it’s harmless.

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Yuasa · 20/12/2025 18:22

I’m coming up to week 5 of congestion and cough exacerbated by asthma following a cold. I had a similar episode earlier in the year - seems to be just how colds affect me now, frustratingly. I’m tired from the coughing but otherwise perfectly well.

The idea I might confine myself to barracks for months of the year, only going out for walks in the park or to get a takeaway coffee - never stopping, for fear of stressing others - is just absurd.

I hate that one of the lingering effects of covid seems to be that many view it as a moral duty to sequester yourself away for having even the most minor bugs.

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:21

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 18:17

If you’re distressed by hearing people cough how do you function in society?

That is really bloody rude. I actually can’t be bothered to engage with you. Go right ahead with your self righteousness.

eastegg · 20/12/2025 18:21

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 15:57

But I’m not “still clearly ill”. I feel a lot better but know that when I’ve had a bug the cough can linger on my chest for weeks after. Am I supposed to hide away from society?

Totally with you, I’m the same. The cough is at its loudest, most annoying, attention-grabbing, sending me into a fit of hacking, after I’ve finished being ill and I know I’m not infectious anymore. I’m perfectly well apart from a deep tickle which unexpectedly strikes. I get quite panicky with it if I’m indoors in public as I feel trapped and self conscious. People who judge it can get in the bin. They’ve no idea what germs they might be catching off the person who isn’t making any noise.

luckylavender · 20/12/2025 18:21

wildgreyocean · 20/12/2025 15:52

Life doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. You can’t coop yourself up in your house every time you get a cold. I would be going insane.

You could avoid a coffee shop of course

XenoBitch · 20/12/2025 18:20

TheWillToSurvive · 20/12/2025 18:16

As someone who is clinically vulnerable I would be distressed to hear your cough and would agree that you should be home recovering and protecting others.

So the PP who coughs from having lung cancer should stay home forever so you can be less anxious?

arethereanyleftatall · 20/12/2025 18:20

There’s quite a lot of space in between ‘am I supposed to hide away from society’ and going in to a (probably packed) coffee shop 5 days before Christmas when you know you have a cold.

cantbearsed27 · 20/12/2025 18:19

StrawberryRed22 · 20/12/2025 18:17

Some upsetting things to read here. I have a cough for at least a month (often two) each time that I'm ill. It's not feasible for me to wear a mask or avoid indoor spaces for such a large part of the year.

At the same time I wish people who were contagious would stay home where possible. Even a mild cold can put me at risk and shatter my quality of life.

I try not to make assumptions about the choices that others have made because I don't know their circumstances.

How do people know if they're contagious or not? And why are you allowed to go out with a cold but not them?

Megifer · 20/12/2025 18:19

LavenderViolets · 20/12/2025 18:12

I thought the advice was if you had a cough wear a mask which is sensible.

No, the advice is youre fine to carry on normal daily activities if you feel well enough to do so

GlomOfNit · 20/12/2025 18:18

While I think Covid taught us about making choices if obviously unwell I think it also turned us into nutcases. You cannot just stop home/not work if you have a cold. Jesus, I have several a winter season, I'd never leave the house! OP clearly knows she didn't have a flu, she'd have been unable to function out of bed. Coughs can linger on as a post-viral thing for WEEKS and I have one myself at the moment.

The man in the cafe sounds like he has some of his own issues. If he's that worried then perhaps he should himself wear a mask for personal protection or not hang around in coffee shops in the middle of winter. If everyone in Britain who had a sniffle stayed at home, the whole economy would tank!