Just got shouted at in a coffee shop for coughing in public 🥴

🙄. why don’t you just admit you were wrong ?

I’d agree in terms of physical vs verbal assault.

but verbal assault is, to me, worse than the risk of catching a cold - which could happen anywhere.

No one should be shouting
but imo physical is worse than verbal

There isn't guidance: I think that pp was just talking about being generally considerate. There is no guidance about holding doors open for people either, just an informal code of conduct.

Of course the OP is entitled to go out for a hot chocolate if she wants. But some people will judge that as selfish. People who do shouldn't shout, but they are perfectly entitled to make that judgment - just as op is entitled to make her decisions.

A culture where it's ok to shout at strangers for breaking social rules (and this isn't even a universally accepted one!) sounds worse to me than sometimes catching a cold.

OP is quite clearly not in a caring role. I would imagine she’s in some kind of clerical or admin position.

Agree of course !! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion
and

It’s Good to have that

Both the points you make, that you didn’t start the derail and that threads move on, I took into account when I posted. This derail has been particularly irrelevant and pointless, and as far as I can tell you have been the main one driving it and the main one saying the most irrelevant things. So I stand by my point.

Carry on if you must. But my opinion is valid and I’m entitled to express it, and it seems I’m not the only one finding you a bit tiresome.

🤣🤣🤣

Thanks Xeno

Threads move on @eastegg Discussion diversifies. That’s conversation and Mumsnet

You'll find I didn’t start the issue of being sacked if off ill I responded to it and in fact from page one posters weren’t focussing on the exact question OP was asking.

As I said This is Mumsnet

Yep plus I think people need to be realistic about the level of colds in the public. And if they really want to avoid it choose a park over a cafe.

I get coughs that linger for weeks - as do many people. I have mild asthma and a cough long past the infectious phase can continue to bug me. It’s basically just a tickle in the throat that can send me into big coughing fits. I’ve been like this all my adult life.

You can’t put your life on hold and stop going out because people with health anxiety might think you’re infectious (when you’re not.)

To be blunt, you’re filling up this thread with a load of irrelevant nonsense. If you want to discuss sickness policies in the nhs, please feel free to start a new thread about it. It’s not what this thread is about.

Whatever the ins and outs of OP’s sickness entitlements at work, I can say with confidence that she, along with everyone other employed person, should not be going off sick when they are feeling absolutely well just after getting over a cold, sinus issues or not. Nor would they have any entitlement to be off in that situation.

OP is WELL. SHE IS NOT SICK. Sorry for shouting, but the constant posting about sickness entitlement is getting incredibly tiresome and I’d like you to stop please.

Xeno didn’t mention hotels. She was talking about the fact that porters, cleaners and various other NHS staff providing similar services were employed by the NHS department known as ‘hotel’. Totally different. You misinterpreted and you’ve been deflecting ever since.

No, I said the NHS department that deals with porters is called Hotel Services. You are the one who asked why I was on about hotels. I wasn't.

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apologies OP
it was Xeno I think

I’m not well, as my pp I’m on antibiotics because I picked up something from someone when out. I didn’t even stop for a coffee 🤣🤣 so it wasn't you OP

Hope you are well soon

This thread is crazy.
Some of you would hate my work. Every day at least one person has a cold or a cough and in the winter months far more.
Should all these people be isolating for a week ? According to some on this thread they should be and wearing masks.

My job ? I work in a pre school with over 50 children and I bet you wouldn't keep your children off for a week with a bit of a cough or snotty nose. The country would grind to a hault if people did.

Anyway the OP is not ill, she has said this several times. She has a nasal problem.

They are confusing you with another poster who was simply stating that ‘Hotel’ is the name of the NHS department responsible for portering, catering, cleaning and linens, among other things. No amount of posters explaining that there was no reference to actual hotels has made any difference thus far.

Yep I know how the Equality Act works thanks. Worked within its guidelines for over ten years. It states that to be considered a disability, an impairment must have a substantial adverse effect, be long term (12 months or more) and the adverse effects must substantially impact the ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities, such as getting dressed, preparing meals, working, among other things. Therefore, as with hay fever and other mild or occasional issues, sinusitis is generally excluded as a stand alone condition unless it aggravates another more serious condition, such as asthma. Chronic sinusitis that requires regular medical intervention and significantly impacts the sufferers’ ability to function - for example persistent pain, breathing difficulties, frequent incapacitating episodes - could in certain circumstances meet the criteria. But as I said, OP doesn’t appear to do so, according to her own description.

Your assertion that you can’t be sacked for accumulated sick leave is simply wrong. Unless you have a disability which qualifies for reasonable adjustment under the Act, you have no protection against disciplinary action linked to the amount of sick leave you take. If you persistently exceed the stated maximum you can legally be dismissed after the required warnings and actions have been applied. Even with reasonable adjustment, you have to work with the employer to minimise sick leave and only sickness attributable to the declared disability can be disregarded for disciplinary action. It’s you who’s talking nonsense.

And your repeated allusions to hotels are becoming embarrassing. It’s been repeated several times now that that poster was referring to ‘Hotel’ as the name of the NHS department responsible for services such as portering, catering and linens, among other things, and not talking about actual hotels.

and of course we are technologically a little more advanced than just using wheelchairs
Double amputees do have prosthetic legs these days

So that’s all good then 🙂

wow. What a diversion from a cold 😆

and of course we are technologically a little more advanced than just using wheelchairs
Double amputees do have prosthetic legs these days

So that’s all good then 🙂

wow. What a diversion from a cold 😆