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Christmas would not happen without me

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zoeb92 · 20/12/2025 13:22

More of a rant than anything… feel free to tell me to suck it up.
Every year it’s the same thing. I do everything. Husband does F all.
I have to think for him — for absolutely everything. Are we hosting? If so: Christmas food shop, inviting everyone, getting the house ready, sorting the logistics. All me.
Gifts? I start shopping in October. DS’s presents were bought by the first week of November. His family’s presents were all bought on my weekends off, while he spends his Wednesday off going for breakfast with friends and then the gym.
I’m nine months pregnant, and I battled the shops on the last Saturday before Christmas — fighting for a parking space — just to get something suitable for his mum because he’d left it too late. I’ve spent two hours wrapping everything while he’s been at work. Fine.
Now I still need to spend another two hours doing the housework and cooking dinner. Then he texts to say he’s out this evening with his dad for a Christmas pint. He never goes out — but honestly, it just feels like if I didn’t do everything, nothing would happen.
I’ve even bought a gift from his nephew to his mum (who’s the guardian), because I didn’t want my MIL waking up on Christmas morning to nothing. Do I get any thanks for thinking that far ahead? Of course not.
I’m absolutely fuming. I’d just like a little bit of appreciation.
I’ve even had to wrap my own Christmas presents — which I bought myself, by the way.

OP posts:
Xemon · 20/12/2025 20:34

TootsMaHoots · 20/12/2025 20:29

There’s a difference between buying and wrapping presents and making a Christmas dinner for your own child and buying and wrapping presents for in laws and for yourself and nephews to give to other people though.

If my dh was like the OP’s husband, I would not do all of the things the op does. I would not even think about doing them.

I understand that. But everyone's banging on that they 'wouldn't stand for it' and 'conversations would be had' and he would (or has) abracadabra change his ways because NO WAY would they do more than their fair share.

Bollocks. Presents for his side of the family aside, everyone would clean their house if visitors were coming, they'd cook the entire meal so their kids could have a good Christmas, and they'd do the lion's share of the prep if they had to. They'd be just as 'enabling' as they're sneering at OP for. Claiming they wouldn't is just irritating.

TootsMaHoots · 20/12/2025 20:29

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

There’s a difference between buying and wrapping presents and making a Christmas dinner for your own child and buying and wrapping presents for in laws and for yourself and nephews to give to other people though.

If my dh was like the OP’s husband, I would not do all of the things the op does. I would not even think about doing them.

Xemon · 20/12/2025 20:20

EverestMilton · 20/12/2025 19:58

No. I. Bloody. Wouldn't! Firstly my threshold for fuck wittery is very low so I wouldn't choose a DH like that in the first place. The OP doesn't appear to have tried talking to or changing her DH behaviour in the first instance so no idea if he might or might not change his ways. If I was that unfortunate to have this sort of partner and they failed to respond to me ripping them a new one. I would of course sort presents for my DD but I would also absolutely minimize the tasks involving him or his family, have a low key Christmas dinner or go out for Christmas dinner, hire a cleaner etc. I'd also probably be getting divorced pretty quickly...I know I can't change other people but I sure as hell don't have to tolerate them or keep them in my life if they treat me badly. I'm not arrogant. I just value my time and I am no bodies skivvy!! Have we set the bar so low that any woman who doesn't or wouldn't put up with this sort of shit we call absurd/arrogant??!! Jesus wept.

You're very blusterous. You could certainly divorce if you'd like to, that's up to you. The reality is much different to the trivial act MN paints it as, but I agree sometimes it's the best thing to do.

Still, what you have admitted to is you WOULD do the work on your own to give your DD presents and dinner - you wouldn't 'go on strike' and just leave her to have a miserable Christmas. At least we have ascertained that.

Catza · 20/12/2025 20:13

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

Hand on heart, I wouldn't buy presents for his side of the family. Yes, I would cook, clean and make sure MY kids have something to open. That's all.

I would not go out of my way to buy a present "from" my husband's nephew to my husband's mum. Because 1. It's husbands family 2. The nephew, presumably, have parents of his own or 3. The nephew is an equally useless adult male.
Thinking it is in any way my responsibility requires olympic level mental gymnastics. And that's what everyone in this thread is talking about - overfunctioning to the extreme.

mismomary · 20/12/2025 20:10

You've brought this on yourself OP. Maybe your DP isn't as incompetent as you think. Give him jobs to do beginning of December. Eg you're on all wrapping, present buying for x and y, decorating etc etc.

Getdne · 20/12/2025 20:05

Whatever about doing stuff for your son, I wouldn't be doing anything for him or his side.

Stompingupthemountain · 20/12/2025 20:03

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

Well I wouldn’t, and I’m not just saying that because I know what I do for Christmas and that’s absolutely bugger all. Last year I went travelling for 6 weeks to avoid it, so I can say with absolute certainty that I didn’t run about doing things for my partner. I’ve no idea what he did for his family while I was away and I don’t consider it my problem.

EverestMilton · 20/12/2025 19:58

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

No. I. Bloody. Wouldn't! Firstly my threshold for fuck wittery is very low so I wouldn't choose a DH like that in the first place. The OP doesn't appear to have tried talking to or changing her DH behaviour in the first instance so no idea if he might or might not change his ways. If I was that unfortunate to have this sort of partner and they failed to respond to me ripping them a new one. I would of course sort presents for my DD but I would also absolutely minimize the tasks involving him or his family, have a low key Christmas dinner or go out for Christmas dinner, hire a cleaner etc. I'd also probably be getting divorced pretty quickly...I know I can't change other people but I sure as hell don't have to tolerate them or keep them in my life if they treat me badly. I'm not arrogant. I just value my time and I am no bodies skivvy!! Have we set the bar so low that any woman who doesn't or wouldn't put up with this sort of shit we call absurd/arrogant??!! Jesus wept.

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:56

Parker231 · 20/12/2025 19:39

If my DH wasn’t interested in ensuring our DC’s and family had a lovely Christmas, we wouldn’t be together.

Thankfully DH is very family oriented and making events special is important to him.

But can't you see that's entirely different to the situation OP is in.

The old MN ridiculous jump to LTB has of course surfaced, with zero regard to reality - but it makes posters feel good and empowered to say it. They wouldn't stand for this nonsense, oh no.

AhBiscuits · 20/12/2025 19:54

I've never ever bought a present for my inlaws, not my job.
He's become helpless because he knows that you'll do it all.

MangoPizza · 20/12/2025 19:49

Completely unacceptable. He could have ordered you some presents online and wrapped them up as the absolute bare minimum. I don't even understand how you're in a situation where he thinks it's ok for you to be buying and wrapping your own gifts?
A lot of men do leave the food shopping and all the little details to their wives, mine actually has to go to the supermarket though as I don't drive. But to not buy a single gift is terrible.

Parker231 · 20/12/2025 19:39

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

If my DH wasn’t interested in ensuring our DC’s and family had a lovely Christmas, we wouldn’t be together.

Thankfully DH is very family oriented and making events special is important to him.

mathanxiety · 20/12/2025 19:32

And do not host people if he won't clean the house and prepare.

mathanxiety · 20/12/2025 19:31

I voted YABU because you never had to get presents for his mum or his family.

Let him fail to get his mum and his family a gift next year. Do not cover for him any more.

Xemon · 20/12/2025 19:17

EverestMilton · 20/12/2025 16:07

Oh God. Why do women put up with this nonsense? I just could not tolerate that shit....woe betide any man foolish enough to try. Set your expectations and follow through. I do my family, he does his, cooking, cleaning and Christmas admin is split 50:50. If he doesn't bother with his family then that's on him. Your response to any failing on his part is sad face "Oh dear you better talk to DH about that". Rinse and repeat. You really didn't need to battle the shops, you really don't need to do everything. What you need to is change your mind set and give your DH a rocket up his arse to help you.
My DD will have a lovely Christmas, presents, dinner etc but her mother won't have lost her marbles over it because her father is a competent adult who pulls his weight and doesn't need supervising. Your standards for Christmas might be high but your standards for how much you value yourself are absolute rock bottom....

And how will your DD have a nice Christmas with presents and dinner etc if your DH was like OP's? You'd do it yourself. Just like OP is.

You can't force people to do things. Neither can you change people. So your claims that you would is absurd and arrogant.

If your DH was like OP's then you would absolutely take on the jobs yourself, I don't know why everyone in this thread is pretending they wouldn't. Or maybe you would really love to have a presentless, no dinner Christmas while having people in your home that was dirty and untidy. Everyone's different I guess.

AquaForce · 20/12/2025 18:38

My Dad still does all his own Christmas shopping. He's 89...... He can't manage the wrapping anymore, so I do that for him now.

ObelixtheGaul · 20/12/2025 18:08

I don't think this thread has quite gone as you expected, OP. I think you might have wanted a bit more in the 'oh, poor you, how dreadful' line.

Instead, you've had a lot of people wondering why you are doing things you don't have to do. And, I'm afraid, I am one of those people.

You're BU to to think Christmas wouldn't happen without you. It would. It just might not happen in the same way. Your DH would have to turn up 'careless and presentless' on his own to his relatives. If that bothers him, he'll do something about it. If it doesn't, the sky won't fall in and Christmas won't be cancelled.

If you weren't there, I'm pretty sure your husband won't be resorting to chicken nuggets and chips for dinner. He'll go round his mum's.

I think it suits you a bit to imagine it won't happen without you, that your son will have no presents, his belly will be empty and the in-laws will instantly go no-contact whilst muttering about what a bad wife you are.

And it's understandable if your DH treats you like a bit of furniture all year that you want to feel important. And imagining some sort of miserable Christmas show without you in the lead role gives you that.

So I would ask you to think about what's really going on that means you can't 'just stop' as others have suggested.

sugarapplelane · 20/12/2025 18:04

You have two options here.
You carry on moaning about and do nothing and then get defensive when others ask why you are doing it.
Or you do something about your issue that you are unhappy about. You try to find a solution instead of moaning about the problem.
Do things so your son has a nice Christmas but you do sweet FA about your partners family

SweetMotherofAbrahamLincoln · 20/12/2025 17:46

Hell would freeze over before I’d have gone and got his mother a Christmas present. He’s got two legs and a couple of brain cells, he either sorts it or she gets nothing and he can explain why

Kizmet1 · 20/12/2025 17:34

You need to show him this message OP. If you can't say it to him, write it down and find a calm moment to let him know how you feel.
You deserve to be heard and he needs to understand how much he is letting you down but doing so little.
Wishing you a happy and healthy rest of your pregnancy and safe arrival of your little one. Xx

mippis · 20/12/2025 17:31

I used to buy dh’s family presents but after couple of incidents I stopped. I have to remind Dh and he goes to Sainsbury’s to get presents. Mil is getting a box of shortbread and Sil is getting a bag of chocolate covered nuts. When I was in charge the presents were much bigger and thoughtful.

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 20/12/2025 17:31

You are doing it all because you want to do it all.

WimpoleHat · 20/12/2025 17:31

I get where you’re coming from. It’s the same in my house. But - and it is a big but - I’ve realised that l, while it’s important to me to have things done in a certain way, it isn’t important to my DH. So without me, certain things wouldn’t happen, but he’d likely be fine about that. So I’ve come to accept that I do a lot more because I care about it more. Which is sort of fair enough when I think about it in those terms!

PinkArt · 20/12/2025 17:25

What the fuck are you doing? Seriously?
You're about to have two children to a man who clearly doesn't love or respect you and yet you're running around, heavily pregnant, facilitating everything for his extended family.
Drop the rope. Either the selfish cunt will step up or he won't, but stop setting yourself on fire to keep his Christmas warm.
Buy nice presents for your kids. Write from mummy on them. Don't go through the charade of wrapping your own presents, let them see what a selfish asshole their dad is. Get your own family presents and write from zoeb92 on them. Leave him to it with his family. If anyone dares comment, make it clear that it was his responsibility.
And then leave the pathetic, selfish, contemptible prick before next Christmas.

canklesmctacotits · 20/12/2025 17:25

zoeb92 · 20/12/2025 14:03

I do it because it's not fair on my son, he deserves the very best. He deserves a clean warm home? Presents nicely wrapped under the tree, a lovely home cooked Christmas dinner, this is his childhood. This is about standards which I am not dropping.

the thought of turning up to someone's house empty handed, careless, presentless, makes me feel physically sick. Don't do it then? Wish it was that simple. Because if I don't, it will be me who they talk about behind my back, not him.

I’m actually going to go through this line by line - not to pick on you OP but because there will be a tonne of women reading this feeling just like you and as an older woman it might be useful to one or more of them.

“It’s not fair in my son”: what’s not fair on your son? That his grandma doesn’t get a gift from your nephew bought and wrapped by you, stressing you out, resenting his dad, feeling miserable? Think about what you’re saying here. Apply some logic. And even if one Christmas when you’re 9 months pregnant with his sibling your son doesn’t to benefit from a perfect (according to you but almost certainly not according to him, because he’s a child) Christmas…what’s going to happen to him? Seriously? Do you think he might feel a little disappointment (he won’t)? And so what? What will happen to him if he does? Do you accept this is about you, not your son?

He deserves a clean and warm home: ok, sure. Switch the heating on. Tell your DH to do some cleaning.

Presents nicely wrapped under the tree: so buy some, wrap them (doesn’t have to be nice, he won’t give a shit), and put them there. Fine.

Lovely home cooked Christmas dinner: you’re 9 months pregnant. This is not necessary. Christmas dinner of some sort is fine. Tell your DH to pull his finger out and sort it out. M&S if need be - again, you’re 9 months pregnant. Why not insist on doing it standing on one leg?

This is his childhood: yessss, and? Will it all amount to nothing if 25/12/25 isn’t the picture you have in your mind? Will you have failed at mothering, failed at Christmas?

This is about standards which I am not dropping: ok, stop moaning then. Do all the things, and stop complaining if this is about your standards and you won’t drop them. I guarantee neither your DH nor your son could give a shit as long as there’s food and gifts. You can’t have it both ways. They’re your standards, you do the work. If you set standards for me and complained I’m not meeting them I’d tell you where to shove your standards.

The thought of turning up to someone’s house….physically sick: so take a bottle of wine. Not difficult. Hardly warrants a complaint.

Wish it was that simple: IT IS THAT SIMPLE. DONT DO IT.

It'll be me they talk about behind my back: and? You’re martyring yourself at 9 months pg in order to avoid bitching by people who would actually bitch about a 9 month of woman not doing enough for them?

Just. Stop. You are spoiling the very thing you’re looking for with this martyrdom. It’s your own fault. Stop doing it, stop complaining, stop feeling resentful. It’s really, really easy.