To wonder if my NDN has someone sleeping in her loft?

That's !

Maybe it’s immigrant male squirrels ? They’ve evolved to now use plugs perhaps they use an air wrap for their tails

The creepiest thing that happened to me like this was I heard similar sounds from above my head from the loft when I was in the bathroom (we have a wood panelled ceiling that has been like it since we moved in). Next door were having some work done so I assumed it was the sound travelling strangely from next door. I was stood directly outside the shower with a towel wrapped around me and I heard 2 men talking and say “do you think she’s going to get in there?”. I looked up at the ceiling and then one said “do you think she can hear us?”. My DH was in work. He went up when he came home and there was no sign of anything. To this day I don’t know what was going on.

So I think anything is possible - even someone finding a way into your attic when you were asleep.

Possibly growing cannabis in the loft? Could explain the plug (lights/ heat lamps)

FFS, stop reading the daily heil and go and look in your loft. Try to work out if they are connected. Do you even have a plug in your loft?

If she’s not got people in your loft there is very little more you can do apart from reporting to the local authority. She may have had an urge to go and find some Christmas decorations in her own loft. She may have converted it to a bedroom or in the process. It might have been something completely different entirely. 🤷‍♀️

I thought the same as @Haupt . If you heard a plug going into a socket, it might have been for a UV light. You’ll soon know because it will stink I think. I also think the police would be interested in that.

@Eyeshadow mentioned cuckooing. If you are worried that she is being coerced into having this stream of men staying at the house, then I think you should report it to the police and/or Adult social services. That has got to be a really awful situation for someone to be in.

If they are doing anything dodgy in their loft they will probably be very quiet now as your husband has alerted them that you can hear them. So at least you will get some peace.

Oh come on, we all know what OP means and she has described very well what she meant. Let's not pretend everyone who has moved to this country is here legally and skilled.

This sounds like a H & S issue OP.

Would the local Fire Brigade be able to give advice?

People!

How do you know they don't have official documents? do you so a passport check every morning?

Men who don't speak English seems easy enough (based on what you know and less words than you have used here). Get a cheap activated sound recorder & put It In the attic. If you record plugs regularly being pulled check with planning and speak to your local fire brigade. Ongoing criminal activity next door is awful though.

Apparently they are people who appear to be drug dealers. Do keep up!

If your bedroom is on the party wall then it is possible for a noise next door to sound as though it's coming from directly above. That said, I'd make it a priority to get upstairs in your loft and check all areas, especially near the party wall, to ensure there's no evidence of break through from next door. The pp suggestion to have a lock on your loft hatch from your side is also a good idea.

I think you should (or your DH because I don’t venture into ours 🕷️🕸️) go up into your loft and check it out. Even the hard to get to bit that’s near to the neighbour’s house. Your neighbour sounds like an absolute nightmare.

So do people think it’s likely that the noise was from a human?

If you and your DH can’t even answer this Q and you were both there hearing it, then how can we answer this Q.

From what you’ve said it sounds like the noises were just coming from next door.

It would be very difficult for you to hear noise from her loft on your side and you heard nothing that was similar to coughing or talking or any sort of human noises.
You would have least have heard footsteps.

If you’re concerned someone is in your loft then go and have a look.

I wouldn’t concern yourself with it unless you see or hear that needs reporting like it’s impacting you or she’s being cuckood.

Cannabis farm?

It might have been someone checking the water tank. Maybe water issues inside. Is there any evidence the overflow has been running ?

Or maybe someone coming home from the pub and deciding to get the Christmas tree down.

Get up there and search Op, all of it just to be sure. If the sound was coming from next door then you'll hear it again

What a snotty, virtue signalling reply🙄

OP, i feel this thread will turn into a heated discussion about immigration!

Instead of policing language, people could maybe get concerned about anti-social people causing trouble, regardless of where they come from or what nationality they are.

My major concern which I think someone mentioned up thread is that they have access to your loft!! I know some types of houses have a communal type loft space that runs along all the houses, massive fire hazard but it was cheaper to build.

Can you have someone living in your loft???

“Immigrant types” would probably be single men of a variety of nationalities in the 18-45 age range (most probably) with limited language abilities, no job or a cash in hand job (which means they don’t receive the employment protection, benefits etc they should do) think delivery drivers etc who can commit serious offences because they’re difficult to trace as they’re not in the system.

Those sorts of “immigrant types”.

Not the type of immigrants who arrive here usually with jobs lined up, bring their families, work hard, pay tax and are valuable members of society.

It’s ok to acknowledge that some types of people in this country are problematic (like OPs neighbours).