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To tell them to F*** off and quit before the Christmas break?

217 replies

icyblast · 19/12/2025 11:59

I’ve been working full time at a nursery for 3 years now, and honestly, it’s been terrible. I’m not sure how I’ve managed to stick around this long. I think I just got too comfortable. The kids are lovely, and I genuinely enjoy that part of my job. But the management / owners? That’s a different story. It’s a chain of nurseries, and all they care about is profit. The staff are treated like shit, paid peanuts, and they act like they’re untouchable / above employment law. I could share so many stories, but I won’t bother. However, this latest incident has pushed me and a few others over the edge.

To keep it short, the owners like to donate to charity (which isn’t a bad thing), but they’re not good people, and no one sees what happens behind the scenes. They’ve organised a charity event for tomorrow that lasts 3 hours and threatened us with disciplinary action if we don’t show up. We all work Monday to Friday (that’s what our contracts say) and won’t be paid for our time tomorrow. Plus, it’s the last weekend before Christmas, so naturally, most of us have plans or are going away. They only told us on Tuesday that we were expected to attend. One of my colleagues only started 2 weeks ago (already had plans for the weekend), and while our manager let her off, she basically got a warning and was told not to let it happen again. Seriously? It’s her day off! Why shouldn’t she be able to make plans?

The thing is, if they had just asked us nicely to help out, most of us would have agreed. But they’ve given us no choice and threatened to sack us if we don’t go! Then we have to act like it’s a wonderful company and put on smiles and act happy for the parents and kids. We’re going just to avoid the hassle, but most of us are now looking for new jobs.

I talked to my partner about this, and he told me to just leave. I don’t have another job lined up yet, but I’m fully qualified and have over 10 years of experience in child care. I’m not trying to be cocky, but there are so many care jobs available right now that I doubt I’d have a hard time finding something better. AIBU to hand my notice in on Christmas Eve and enjoy my time off?

OP posts:
jessycake · 19/12/2025 14:45

What ever you do make sure it’s your last year working for them .

Eyeshadow · 19/12/2025 14:44

If you leave without another job you will be down a salary.

Why should they get out of paying you and make your life more difficult, when they’ve already made it difficult enough.

Apply for other jobs and leave asap but I wouldn’t just quit.
If you’ve lasted this long, then you can last a few more weeks.

Once you have a new job you can always steal some of the other staff by recommending them to your new employers if vacancies come up.

5128gap · 19/12/2025 14:36

No, I wouldn't. As pp said, I'd refuse, let them sack me and take them to tribunal for unfair dismissal. It costs you nothing, often companies settle because its cheaper than fighting the case, so you could get a pay out. More importantly though its a wake up call that they can't treat people like that and go unchallenged.

liamharha · 19/12/2025 14:35

icyblast · 19/12/2025 11:59

I’ve been working full time at a nursery for 3 years now, and honestly, it’s been terrible. I’m not sure how I’ve managed to stick around this long. I think I just got too comfortable. The kids are lovely, and I genuinely enjoy that part of my job. But the management / owners? That’s a different story. It’s a chain of nurseries, and all they care about is profit. The staff are treated like shit, paid peanuts, and they act like they’re untouchable / above employment law. I could share so many stories, but I won’t bother. However, this latest incident has pushed me and a few others over the edge.

To keep it short, the owners like to donate to charity (which isn’t a bad thing), but they’re not good people, and no one sees what happens behind the scenes. They’ve organised a charity event for tomorrow that lasts 3 hours and threatened us with disciplinary action if we don’t show up. We all work Monday to Friday (that’s what our contracts say) and won’t be paid for our time tomorrow. Plus, it’s the last weekend before Christmas, so naturally, most of us have plans or are going away. They only told us on Tuesday that we were expected to attend. One of my colleagues only started 2 weeks ago (already had plans for the weekend), and while our manager let her off, she basically got a warning and was told not to let it happen again. Seriously? It’s her day off! Why shouldn’t she be able to make plans?

The thing is, if they had just asked us nicely to help out, most of us would have agreed. But they’ve given us no choice and threatened to sack us if we don’t go! Then we have to act like it’s a wonderful company and put on smiles and act happy for the parents and kids. We’re going just to avoid the hassle, but most of us are now looking for new jobs.

I talked to my partner about this, and he told me to just leave. I don’t have another job lined up yet, but I’m fully qualified and have over 10 years of experience in child care. I’m not trying to be cocky, but there are so many care jobs available right now that I doubt I’d have a hard time finding something better. AIBU to hand my notice in on Christmas Eve and enjoy my time off?

I just would not have it ifake.life as difficult as possible tell them you will seek legal advice from the appropriate employment law solicitors.
No one is above the law,some employers just try it on cos often the threat is enough to scare ppl into doing things they can't actually get away with . Stand your ground and rock the boat and leave a paper trail,,question everything in writing .
Employees have lots of rights they often just don't enforce the it are fully aware of them .

Whyherewego · 19/12/2025 14:34

orangewasp · 19/12/2025 12:21

I'd tell them you won't be attending and then let it play out. I would also make it clear that if they attempt to discipline you , you will leave and take them to a tribunal. Make sure you save any contact you have with them. Call Acas in the New Year, if needed. Look for a new job anyway.

100pc this. Your contract does not cover attendance at put of hours charity events and I am sure the charity would be appalled too to hear this.
I'd definitely just write back and say "thank you for notifying us of an out of hours charity event that we can attend. As I am sure you are aware, attendance at charity event is not part of my contractual duties and therefore I cannot be subject to a disciplinary procedure for non attendance. I wish you the best for the event but I will not be attending."

If they write back and say you must attend then you write back and say "I'd be grateful if you could outline precisely where in the contract of employment it says I must attend out of hours charity events. I am sure the charity themselves would only want voluntary attendance at such an event rather than people subject to threats of disciplinary procedures. If you proceed with a disciplinary then I will be taking this further via ACAS" or something to this effect.

I'd also let your colleagues know too.

Swash89 · 19/12/2025 14:25

Email them and say you can’t go because of prior commitments and if they fire you then take them to the cleaners

Poppy61 · 19/12/2025 14:24

Explain you already have plans. If they threaten you with disciplinary, explain you are able to save them the bother, as you resign. Call their bluff and then New Year, New Job. Good luck OP.

Oh, and if you all follow the same line, what can they do about it?

OnGoldenPond · 19/12/2025 14:24

winter8090 · 19/12/2025 12:14

Apologise and say you have plans for the weekend.
If they fire you then take them to tribunal.
Don't quit until you find a new job. But send the message that it’s not ok to treat people like this.

Don’t apologise!

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 19/12/2025 14:22

SpongeKnobNoPants · 19/12/2025 14:14

Oooh, this reminds me of the year we booked xmas dinner on xmas day at a local pub. When we arrived it was absolute chaos. Table wasn't free for us yet, other fed up families stood around with no tables available, angry customers still waiting to be served, angry customers who had finally been served after a ridiculously long wait but the food was cold/burnt/under-done/things missing etc. A couple of stressed and hassled waitresses running around like headless chickens.

It was the worst xmas dinner.

Turned out that the pub had just been bought by a chain and had told loads of the waiting staff that they HAD to work xmas day regardless of whether they'd booked it off or not, and for their normal NMW rate. If they didn't they'd be up for disciplinary action.

They all made a pact to just not turn up for work that day. Or ever again. Left them right in the shit. Hundreds of bad reviews were left by customers on TripAdvisor, and word of mouth round the village etc.

We had a terrible xmas day, but absolutely could not blame the staff for doing what they did. WTF thinks its ok to treat hard working individuals so disgustingly?!

Because it's a buyer's market. Just a few years ago it was companies struggling to find people (seller's market). Now it's people struggling to find work (buyer's market). This means companies can treat people like crap because for every person who walks away, another person desperately seeking work will be taken on straight away.

Buying labour and selling labour. Labour is in plentiful supply right now, so no problem with replacing workers.

ByeByeDrinker · 19/12/2025 14:21

WaryHiker · 19/12/2025 13:20

Why do people on Mumsnet do this? The poster very clearly referred to her partner. There's no need to seek to put her down in a passive aggressive way by talking about her boyfriend. It happens all the time on here and doesn't say anything good about the poster.

I didnt call him a boyfriend to be passive aggressive. Partner/boyfriend/husband is irrelevant. Its just that leaving without a job to go to might cause financial difficulty.

If she is on a low wage, then being without work for a few months might cause severe financial hardship.

Benefits are not an option if you've given up a job. I would also worry that the sort of employer who treats staff like this might cause a problem when it comes to references. Slow to provide them, holding up a new job.

Not everyone is in position to be without a wage for a few months, I know im not. And over the bank holidays, DBS checks might be slow to come back etc.

Channellingsophistication · 19/12/2025 14:20

I would say you have commitments tomorrow and you cannot do it. I would urge your colleagues not to go either. They can hardly sack you all.

InSpainTheRain · 19/12/2025 14:18

Wow! making you work on a Saturday when it's your day off and threatening you with the sack if you don't is completely unacceptable. I would go with what your DH says - don't turn up and if they fire you so be it. Get another job in the new year whatever happens.

Incelebration · 19/12/2025 14:14

You could try "quiet quitting" (including not going in tomorrow) until you've found a new job. If it were me I might make the odd comment to parents as well so word gets around, but I quite like shit-stirring when I've been mistreated.

SpongeKnobNoPants · 19/12/2025 14:14

Oooh, this reminds me of the year we booked xmas dinner on xmas day at a local pub. When we arrived it was absolute chaos. Table wasn't free for us yet, other fed up families stood around with no tables available, angry customers still waiting to be served, angry customers who had finally been served after a ridiculously long wait but the food was cold/burnt/under-done/things missing etc. A couple of stressed and hassled waitresses running around like headless chickens.

It was the worst xmas dinner.

Turned out that the pub had just been bought by a chain and had told loads of the waiting staff that they HAD to work xmas day regardless of whether they'd booked it off or not, and for their normal NMW rate. If they didn't they'd be up for disciplinary action.

They all made a pact to just not turn up for work that day. Or ever again. Left them right in the shit. Hundreds of bad reviews were left by customers on TripAdvisor, and word of mouth round the village etc.

We had a terrible xmas day, but absolutely could not blame the staff for doing what they did. WTF thinks its ok to treat hard working individuals so disgustingly?!

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 19/12/2025 14:13

Report to ACAS.

Nevereatcardboard · 19/12/2025 14:05

My guess is that if you rang any childcare or care agency, they will be able to offer you work almost straight away. I’m going against most people here, but leaving the job (due to ‘wanting a better opportunity’ rather than ‘crappy working conditions’) looks better than getting sacked for any future employers. I found this out the hard way!

SpinningaCompass · 19/12/2025 14:02

Just go home when you're scheduled to home. If they say anything, tell them you're contacting ACAS and keep walking.

CautiousLurker2 · 19/12/2025 14:00

Nevereatcardboard · 19/12/2025 12:03

Listen to your DP. Also, don’t go to the event tomorrow.

This - let them try to sack you all if none of you turn up.

PoppyFleur · 19/12/2025 13:56

Do not attend the event.

if they attempt to discipline you, contact ACAS, this is a free service and you don’t need to be a member of any union to use this service.

Keep anything sent to you in writing as evidence. Document any conversation had with you in an email.

Employers cannot hire and fire employees at will. You have all the cards here, do not be intimidated.

Whatsthatsheila · 19/12/2025 13:56

CoffeeBeansGalore · 19/12/2025 12:10

Email your resignation tonight, and don't go tomorrow. They can't sack you if you've already resigned. They have no right to your personal time.
DH has your back. There's no reason to put up with their sh$& any longer.

And you won’t be working your notice due to them breaching your contract by expecting you to work outside of your contracted hours for no pay @icyblast

😂

TillyBilly29 · 19/12/2025 13:56

So like others, I suggest that you don't quite call their bluff... and then if they do sack you, then you can go down the legal route for unfair dismissal. Email them first and let them know you won't be attending due to Saturday not being a contracted work day and then leave it there and then it's up to them and all the legal responsibility for well acting illegally.

Pineapplewaves · 19/12/2025 13:52

Hand in your notice but remember you’ll need a reference from them for your next employer so be careful what you give for your reason for leaving and “politely” tell them that you already have plans for tomorrow.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 19/12/2025 13:51

Just dont go and let them deal with it.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 19/12/2025 13:50

myhaggisblewup · 19/12/2025 12:28

My d worked in several nurseries, none of them that good although high fee paying.
The last one she whistle blew on after 3 weeks as staff in her room were ignoring, ill treating very young kids, food was removed if they didn't eat it all within 5 minutes of serving. She wanted to complain to the manager but the room leader was bf with her. They would sit in the staff room on their phones while d and a trainee were looking after 15 kids on their own. A couple of parents had object to CCTV in the room so it wasn't allowed.
Part of a major chain of nurseries and very expensive. D involved the relevant authorities and left before the shit hit the fan. The trainee she kept in touch with stayed on and apparently several members of staff including room and general manager were sacked. CCTV has now been installed and the staff 'are lovely with the little ones.
It's disgusting that it came to this but d did the right thing but those poor kids and the parents never knew at the time as the guilty staff were charming and lovely to the parents and carers.

Your daughter deserves a medal.I know she didn’t do it for that but fucking well done to her x

EarthSight · 19/12/2025 13:48

We all work Monday to Friday (that’s what our contracts say) and won’t be paid for our time tomorrow. Plus, it’s the last weekend before Christmas, so naturally, most of us have plans or are going away. They only told us on Tuesday that we were expected to attend. One of my colleagues only started 2 weeks ago (already had plans for the weekend), and while our manager let her off, she basically got a warning and was told not to let it happen again. Seriously? It’s her day off!

They sound batshit.

Be careful - they could be crazy enough to try and sack you after you give your resignation, which is possible. It would be illegal if they did that out of spite, but they might just do it anyway.