You’re going to die if you don’t eat.

Oh yes I know what you were saying. And I think you understand my point too.

Many many Palestinians were absorbed into Israel and now live as full citizens with equal rights. Arabs make up 20%of the population of Israel I believe. Tragically many were killed and others fled at the demands of their own leaders. They live in Jordan, still in refugee camps. Jordan hasn’t made them citizens in the past 75 years.

The tragedy of the Palestinian people is that they’ve never had the leadership to allow them to live side by side with Israel so they’ve rejected every 2 state solution that Israel have offered and their homes and businesses in Gaza were destroyed to make weapons and tunnels.

Israel does national service.

I was responding to a PP who was asking about Sudan. It’s possible to be concerned about more than one genocide at a time.

You must be reading different coverage of the trial to me because it wasn't just the one man who was armed.

From the BBC:

Footage played in the opening address was said to show Zoe Rogers brandishing and swinging a sledgehammer in front of a security guard, Angelo Volante.

He also said he had been whipped by Charlotte Head and threatened with a saw by Leona Kamio.

Eventually he retreated - but later returned with the police. As he led officers into the factory, video played to the jury on Tuesday was said to show Ms Kamio raising her sledgehammer over her head and bringing it down towards him.

She was then tasered - but continued to resist arrest. The video is then said to show Samuel Corner approaching Sgt Evans and striking her back with a sledgehammer.

"Having hit her once, he raised the sledgehammer again and hit her with it a second time," said Ms Heer.

"Fortunately, Sgt Evans was wearing a stab vest which may have absorbed the force of the impacts. Nevertheless she screamed in pain as she felt the force of the blows.

"She was immediately terrified that her spine had been damaged and when she tried, she was unable to get up."

Sgt Evans suffered a fractured spine and was unable to work for three months. Due to the ongoing impact of the injury, she has been confined to restricted duties.

Or if the Palestinians weren't living under Israeli occupation?

Oh yes I’ve seen those protests on the streets in London every weekend FREE THE ROHINGYA!

I have no idea. I’m involved in some humanitarian work with Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh. Who are you helping?

Much of what you reference wouldn’t have happened if Hamas hasn’t started a war…

Or if they’d returned the hostages…

Or allowed the Gazas to shelter in the miles of tunnels they’d built with the billions of dollars donated to them to rebuild Gaza after they destroyed the homes and industry gifted to the Gazans by the Israelis when they moved out in 2005.

Or shared the food they stockpiled in the tunnels so the people weren’t starving.

Erm? Wasn't the birthplace of that nice Jewish boy Judea?

The Romans didn't rename it to Syria Palaestina until 100 years or so later when they were mad at the Jews.

Bethlehem I guess is part of Palestinian territory now, and not free from violence, although I don't think it's the bit you're referring to.

Oh that’s ok then!!! How many of these people are doing the sane re Sudan or are they only interested in protesting against Jews?

But why did it have to be formed at the cost of Palestinian lives and dispossession of their land?

except that’s not universally accepted as legally correct is it?

Israel was formed (as a replica of their original homeland) after facing millennia of persecution, exile, and genocide..

OP, I think it’s in really poor taste to use a crying with laughter emoji in a thread about this topic.

All of that has happened to my dearly loved niece in the grips of anorexia. She not doing it for attention or to blackmail society, she’s genuinely ill and at risk of organ failure but she can’t get an ambulance or attention for love nor money.

The protestors’ fate is in their own hands and their own responsibility.

Funny that, I've seen 100's of videos of the IDF being cruel in some way or another, and not one of how you describe.....

"The protest was peaceful, only one police officer's spine was broken'

Yes, I’m worried about conscription of anyone, including young people conscripted into the IDF just because they happen to be Israeli.

You must be reading different coverage of the trial to me because it wasn't just the one man who was armed.

From the BBC:

Footage played in the opening address was said to show Zoe Rogers brandishing and swinging a sledgehammer in front of a security guard, Angelo Volante.

He also said he had been whipped by Charlotte Head and threatened with a saw by Leona Kamio.

Eventually he retreated - but later returned with the police. As he led officers into the factory, video played to the jury on Tuesday was said to show Ms Kamio raising her sledgehammer over her head and bringing it down towards him.

She was then tasered - but continued to resist arrest. The video is then said to show Samuel Corner approaching Sgt Evans and striking her back with a sledgehammer.

"Having hit her once, he raised the sledgehammer again and hit her with it a second time," said Ms Heer.

"Fortunately, Sgt Evans was wearing a stab vest which may have absorbed the force of the impacts. Nevertheless she screamed in pain as she felt the force of the blows.

"She was immediately terrified that her spine had been damaged and when she tried, she was unable to get up."

Sgt Evans suffered a fractured spine and was unable to work for three months. Due to the ongoing impact of the injury, she has been confined to restricted duties.

Ilan Pappé:

”What Israel commits in the Gaza Strip is genocide by all legal definitions.”

Ah so you are worried about the calling up of Israeli soldiers??? All the pro Palestine marches are anti semetic. Where are all these marches re Sudan