Why do men hate women so much?

Nobody is saying that most abuse towards women is from men. I am simply saying it’s not all men. Of course it’s not , that’s a ridiculous statement.

Please don’t tell your daughter that if men are shit to her it’s because they fancy her.

The not all men crowd are probably the same people who wouldn't allow their young teenage daughters to walk alone in the dark wearing nothing but shorts and a vest top , and you have to wonder why that is 🤔. What or rather who are they afraid of ?

I have spent much of my life outside the UK and have never experienced this abroad.
To me its a UK phenomenon to yell at women from the safety of a passing car. And Im a red head so have "gingerrrrr" yelled at me from too many cars in the UK. But never a peep anywhere else.

Yep! Many mothers of sons just refuse to believe that their precious little princes are anything other than absolute Angels, who are terribly lovely and kind and sweet to all women, even in front of all their mates, and male peers.

Sorry Jan, they're not the Angel you think they are.

No it's not. The women on here claiming that 'all the men they know' are just sooooo perfect and lovely and would never EVER do or say anything disrespectful towards women, are laughably naive and blinkered. I can't believe they genuinely believe this. 😆 Bless......

And knew he wouldn't have stood a chance.

I think it's so sweet that you really believe this. Breathtakingly naive, and blinkered, but sweet.

You don't know what your sons are like when you're not around.

They are both men. There's a very strong likelihood that they are not the gentle, kind, considerate, young princes who 'understand their moral reponsibilities' that you imagine they are ... When you're not around/not in earshot, I guarantee their behaviour is different to how you believe it is..........

They're insecure arseholes who need to abuse someone who's probably not going to fight back to feel better about themselves. It's pathetic.

I think that sometimes there's an element of these losers being at the bottom of the heap amongst men and are resentful. Their pick of women is probably very limited and so they actively reject and undermine women.

With some, I also think there's a sense of entitlement and as a PP said upthread, the expectation that women are just there to serve men.

OP, it could have been any one of us and they'd pick up on anything they thought might be a vulnerability. I've had my 'saggy arse' commented on before whilst out running (it's not saggy, it's flat, thank you very much 🤣) and been called a stuck up bitch for not wanting to engage in a lewd conversation with a complete stranger.

They're pathetic excuses for human beings and they're deeply threatened by women (in genereal) standing for less of their shit.

The only ones who can give you the truth about your sons are their female peers.

I feel like emailing some mothers to tell them how fabulous their late teen sons are. Then some boys are absolute misogynistic twats.

unfortunately they are men.

Looking at the stats very common men

If you were dressed up he probably fancied you.

Don't let it get to you op.

If you really think about it, imagine being such an utter amoeba that you would behave like that. or laugh at someone else behaving like that.

They aren't really men: they are just gooberish losers. Just be glad you don't have such a non-existence that that is entertainment for you.

It’s not you it’s them. I had a guy describe me as a pig once. It was years ago and I remembered it. I was young, slim and pretty when I look back. But it knocked my confidence. I didn’t know him I was just walking past. I was dressed up ready to meet my friends. But I never forgot it. Hold your head high op it says a lot more about their behaviour and who they are.

As we all have. But I have 2 sons who are lovely kids. Easily as kind if not more so than the girls in their class.

nah. I know lots of women who have said that about their sons. And i have heard my daughters, and the other girls they know name them as some of the fucking scroates who have pestered them for nudes.

Another apologist!

Yawn

What utter nonsense.

Many years ago I got a barrage of filth from some men in a company van in a queue of traffic . I took a pen and piece of paper out of my bag and wrote down the van’s registration and company name . They shit themselves. Another incident I had two men up ladders side by side calling me a fucking slag as I walked by . I asked them to repeat what they said as my husband what like to hear it and he was round the corner . They shit themselves. Cowards underneath.

My brother hates women. Really hates them. He blames us all for his lot in life ( which is actually quite privileged, or was) he’s lost and lonely and a drunk but that’s not his fault, that’s our fault apparently. Years ago, when he did once have a girlfriend he spent the whole time telling her how to dress and not to wear makeup. I literally have no idea why he turned out this way, my father was so far removed from this. A charismatic, women- loving, warm and very intelligent man. The only thing I can think of is private school left my brother broken. There’s a lot of hate and rage in him and woe is me. We don’t speak because I don’t want my children around him.

Apologies if someone else got there first, but there’s a passage in Doris Lessing’s The Summer Before the Dark (1973) that describes something similar. The main character (middle-aged) walks past a group of builders in an ill-fitting dress with “normal” gait, and there’s no reaction - the blokes ignore her, she’s invisible. She nips round the corner, cinches the baggy dress with a scarf, covers her frizzy, roots-growing-out hair with another scarf, adopts a bit of a sashay, and instantly gets comments and wolf whistles. Same old.
The difference seems to be that from being invisible, we’ve become targets - bins for men to dispose of their brain detritus, and they think it’s OK to do that.

I think some of them are angry and feel they can take it out on women as we won't fight back. Or they do/say things simply because they know there will be no repercussions.

I've had a man shout "out the way you lazy bitch" at me when we were both cycling and I was heavily pregnant, just because.

DH's brother groped me when we were having a big family photo taken. I wasn't going to spoil the photo being taken was I?

Gawd, I got on a packed train recently and it was full of drunk football fans, there was one particular bloke who saw fit to comment on every woman who got on the train and particularly zeroed in on a young blonde woman and made an incredibly crude comment to her about ejaculating on her face.

I stood in front of her and told him to do one and spoke to her for the rest of the journey. When we got off the train he said he was sorry I was a lesbian. I told him to fuck off immediately or I'd get the transport police. Young woman & I walked out if the station and had a nice chat.

He was about 6' 4"and seemed to think he could say whatever he chose to women. Dick.

I'm not scared of blokes like that.

So many men are so angry and easier to target women plus sense of entitlement

its too many man I am sick of the narrative its not all men defence, its too many and what are all these nice men doing about it mainly fuck all as it doesn't impact them

its really hard parenting a boy as a single mother trying to navigate this as my influence becomes less and less

I was on a packed train recently. All seats taken. Young mum gets on with tiny baby in sling and pull along struggling to manoeuvre along aisle. Not one man moved or responded (all ages). I was only one that gave my seat sorted out her pull along storage. Chivalry is dead it’s been replaced with mum power.