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Why do men hate women so much?

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growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

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TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 20:13

ColinOfficeTrolley · 18/12/2025 20:05

Men hate women because we can have babies and they can't. That's why they based a whole religion around a woman being made out of a man's rib.

They DESPISE that women can give birth and they are unable to do it.

That's how the patriarchy was born.

We are derided, laughed at, treated worse, treated as weaker etc.

Why that have had to build up this world where they are superior.

I actually have been married to a wonderful man for decades so I don't hate men.

I am a feminist. My feminism is borne out of women being liberated in spite of her biology. That's it.

I think this is a bit simplistic in some ways, but in another way I think you are on to something regarding some men. Like for example recently when Trump announced that pregnant women shouldn’t take paracetamol. When it’s literally the only thing you are actually allowed take officially when pregnant for temperatures, migraines and other types of pain/illness. I recently had a baby and when I saw that on the news I just thought to myself , now there is a man who absolutely despises women and wants them to suffer.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 20:10

Luckyingame · 18/12/2025 20:05

Nothing to do with your weight/appearance. Bastards have been conditioned that it's alright to put women down, mock etc. Sometimes it starts as early as with fathers.
This is my opinion only, based on years of observation.
Now at 46, I have very little but disdain and hatred for them.
(Not my husband of 20 years, speaking for myself and haven't been body shamed).

We need to be honest about our husbands though.

DH would never shout abuse from a car etc but I can see ‘something’ which he wrestles with on a daily basis, because logically he knows that ‘something’ is sexist and unjustifiable but regardless it’s there.

For example it really irks him when I can do something he can’t, particularly if practical (fixing the washing machine, assembling something etc). He doesn’t really like it when I have a better idea than him, or if we get lost and I’m the one to find the way to our destination. He would NEVER admit this, and he doesn’t say anything either, but it’s a certain ‘energy’ he gives off which I know he wouldn’t if I was a male friend doing the same things. I think he has self awareness in that he knows he’s doing it, and has on one or two occasions admitted he doesn’t understand why his reactions are subtly different to if I were a male friend.

I think out of the ‘good men’ the vast majority are like DH - their conscious thought manages to wrestle down the sexism and put a lid on it, but it’s still there to a degree.

Kimura · 18/12/2025 20:10

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 20:01

and I am entitled to think they are despicable

I wonder what value you're getting from such a sweeping generalisation?

What is it that you find despicable about people who - in good faith - are uncomfortable with the notion that all/most men are bad/hate women?

ColinOfficeTrolley · 18/12/2025 20:05

Men hate women because we can have babies and they can't. That's why they based a whole religion around a woman being made out of a man's rib.

They DESPISE that women can give birth and they are unable to do it.

That's how the patriarchy was born.

We are derided, laughed at, treated worse, treated as weaker etc.

Why that have had to build up this world where they are superior.

I actually have been married to a wonderful man for decades so I don't hate men.

I am a feminist. My feminism is borne out of women being liberated in spite of her biology. That's it.

Luckyingame · 18/12/2025 20:05

Nothing to do with your weight/appearance. Bastards have been conditioned that it's alright to put women down, mock etc. Sometimes it starts as early as with fathers.
This is my opinion only, based on years of observation.
Now at 46, I have very little but disdain and hatred for them.
(Not my husband of 20 years, speaking for myself and haven't been body shamed).

TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 20:03

canuckup · 18/12/2025 19:29

Just to say, this does not happen in other countries

It is very particular to the UK

I know Ireland isn’t exactly miles away from the uk both in culture and location but it happens here for sure.and I’ve had men shout horrible things at me in other countries too.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 20:02

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 20:01

I'm not blaming anyone....I'm asking how people have raised their own sons to behave.

God this is so frustrating isn’t it 🤦‍♀️

HeadyLamarr · 18/12/2025 20:02

CurlewKate · 18/12/2025 18:26

Well, why don’t men,in general, do something about the vile ones?

Oh! Miss! Pick me, Miss, I know the answer to this one!

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charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 20:01

Kimura · 18/12/2025 20:00

I think the people who come to threads like this to post "Not all men/Women are bad too" with nothing else to add or purely to be pedantic ought to find something better to do.

But this is a discussion forum where people will naturally have opposing stances. If OP had posted in a distressed state just after the incident happened looking for support, fair enough. But when someone is suggesting that all or most men are inherently bad/hate women, they should expect to hear from people who disagree.

and I am entitled to think they are despicable

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 20:01

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 20:00

Because women are always responsible right?

I'm not blaming anyone....I'm asking how people have raised their own sons to behave.

Kimura · 18/12/2025 20:00

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:45

Any woman that responds to the OP with a comment along the lines of 'not all men' is despicable in my view,

I think the people who come to threads like this to post "Not all men/Women are bad too" with nothing else to add or purely to be pedantic ought to find something better to do.

But this is a discussion forum where people will naturally have opposing stances. If OP had posted in a distressed state just after the incident happened looking for support, fair enough. But when someone is suggesting that all or most men are inherently bad/hate women, they should expect to hear from people who disagree.

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 20:00

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 19:59

What about their dads?

Faid.

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 20:00

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 19:57

This thread makes me very sad. Something I wonder however. How have you all raised your son's to treat girls. Be it friends, partners, and/or strangers?

Have you ever had to call out your DS for their behaviour and tell them "don't you dare speak to her like that".

Because women are always responsible right?

OP posts:
HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 19:59

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 19:57

This thread makes me very sad. Something I wonder however. How have you all raised your son's to treat girls. Be it friends, partners, and/or strangers?

Have you ever had to call out your DS for their behaviour and tell them "don't you dare speak to her like that".

What about their dads?

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 19:59

I strongly suspect all the posters who ‘have never experienced this’ are the type who grew up in stable and protective homes, married fairly young and basically have never had TOO much exposure to men when alone/vulnerable in any way.

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:57

GinaandGin · 18/12/2025 19:56

Agree
It's not all men but it's too many men
Too many men go along and don't speak up
Look at the men on the Wayne couzens what's app group
Who "jokingly " called him "the rapist".
Not one spoke up.
If you were in a room with 10 snakes and 1 was poisonous and you didn't know which one ... you'd be cautious of them all

Some were female officers.

Kigalicaif · 18/12/2025 19:57

This thread makes me very sad. Something I wonder however. How have you all raised your son's to treat girls. Be it friends, partners, and/or strangers?

Have you ever had to call out your DS for their behaviour and tell them "don't you dare speak to her like that".

GinaandGin · 18/12/2025 19:56

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:25

To be honest at this point, seeing attitudes online and in person, I’m starting to fall off the “not all men” bandwagon. More and more it’s becoming clear very few men actually have respect for any women.

Agree
It's not all men but it's too many men
Too many men go along and don't speak up
Look at the men on the Wayne couzens what's app group
Who "jokingly " called him "the rapist".
Not one spoke up.
If you were in a room with 10 snakes and 1 was poisonous and you didn't know which one ... you'd be cautious of them all

saamantha19881 · 18/12/2025 19:56

I am so sorry this happened to you. Years ago, a very similar thing happened to me, I was walking back from the train station, completely minding my own business and there was a group of about 5 men. All maybe mid 30s, i was early 20s. and one started shouting that i'd clearly eaten all the sausage rolls. The others just laughed. It was one of the most humiliating moments of my life. I was too scared/intimidated to do anything about it, so kept my head down and walked home. Then cried for the evening.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:56

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:54

Absolutely not I’m sorry you don’t know any but my life is full of good men and I’m very grateful

you know 1 in 4 women will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lifetime don’t you?

That’s a terrible statistic of bad men

NewGoldFox · 18/12/2025 19:55

Cause they’re not as cool as us 😎

echt · 18/12/2025 19:54

Wasn't there a thread a couple of days ago where the step brothers girlfriend told the ops daughter to lose weight?

Not from a moving car with added gorilla noises approved by the rest of those in the car.

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:54

penguinpalace · 18/12/2025 19:53

Or they just don’t do it in front of their families.
Do you not think the guys that did this to op aren’t someone’s beloved son or brother and they likely wouldn’t have thought it of them.

Absolutely not I’m sorry you don’t know any but my life is full of good men and I’m very grateful

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:53

SouthernNights59 · 18/12/2025 19:53

What utter rubbish. None of the men I know would dream of behaving like that, in fact they would more likely call it out, and in my many years on this earth I have only been subjected to something like that once or twice - and I'm no oil painting.

I agree. No decent man would do that.

penguinpalace · 18/12/2025 19:53

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:38

SOME men for sure are utter twats. Sorry you had that experience. I do worry for my young adult DDs. I am lucky to have been married to a really good man for 30 years and to be the daughter of a really good man and to have a really good man for my brother. There are lots of good men, they just don’t yell at you from cars.

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Or they just don’t do it in front of their families.
Do you not think the guys that did this to op aren’t someone’s beloved son or brother and they likely wouldn’t have thought it of them.