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To think budgeting culture has become joyless?

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ByNattyFinch · 18/12/2025 11:03

Budgets are good.
Financial literacy is good.

But AIBU to think some people treat buying a hot drink like a moral failure? Life shouldn’t feel like a spreadsheet.

OP posts:
sickofbeingjudged · 19/12/2025 08:17

R1nt1nt1n · 19/12/2025 08:11

Lavazza is good coffee and better / same than many chains use.

Lavazza is essentially Nescafé but in ground coffee form.

R1nt1nt1n · 19/12/2025 08:11

sickofbeingjudged · 19/12/2025 08:05

So it’s not good coffee then! £15 a month on cheap coffee but you think you’re better than me because I buy mine ready made is kind of funny

Lavazza is good coffee and better / same than many chains use.

Baahbaahmutton · 19/12/2025 08:08

I think some budgetters took it tiny bit personally. Op wasn't moaning about people who budget but people who virtue signal budget.
Most people budget somehow. But not everyone who does goes around judging others and acting like they are better because they don't buy hot drinks (nails, hair, phone) and those who do are, essentially, stupid. I read op as she is talking about the latter group of judging bastards.
IME that's usually people who are not on last penny.

sickofbeingjudged · 19/12/2025 08:05

R1nt1nt1n · 19/12/2025 05:23

The coffee I buy is not expensive. It’s £5 a bag (as opposed to £5 a cup), lasts me 10 days and is made in an ancient £30 device that makes good coffee far better than anything Costa makes.

So it’s not good coffee then! £15 a month on cheap coffee but you think you’re better than me because I buy mine ready made is kind of funny

SunSparkle · 19/12/2025 05:33

DisappointingAvocado · 18/12/2025 11:24

You do you OP, I'll do me. I enjoy keeping a budget and we're a pretty high income high savings household. A couple of years ago we made a conscious decision to cut back on frivolous local spending so that we could increase our holiday budget, and it's been great. We've had some fabulous trips with the kids that we'll remember for a lifetime. When I realised we were spending a couple of hundred pounds a month on coffees/lunches/takeaways it made me question whether that was really what we wanted to spend it on, and we decided it wasn't. It's never been a question of whether we could afford it, but about how to get the most enjoyment and value out of our money. The only way to make this change was to track spending. This had had the knock on effect of me being able to plan finances throughout the year, as I know where the natural peaks and troughs are.
For what it's worth, I would never want my budgeting to affect us socially, so I'd never turn down the invite to meet a friend for coffee or a drink out and I don't discuss my budgeting habits with others.

Exactly this. My mum occasionally will ask if we want to go out to lunch but it’s not anywhere special and would still cost us as a family of 4 about £80 and nothing about the meal would be memorable, particularly tasty and it’s no one’s special day so sometimes I decline and offer to cook us lunch or meet her after. Because that £80 swapped for a quick lunch at home, means over the course of the year we can afford a better holiday or trip away.

I try to explain to her I’m not broke, I’ve money in the bank, but I’m making a conscious decision that means I can afford something I want more. Because I earn much more than her, she just thinks I should be spending willy nilly but budgeting towards things that you love is not silly but does take a little discipline

R1nt1nt1n · 19/12/2025 05:25

PigeonsandSquirrels · 18/12/2025 21:32

Nobody has said they shouldn’t be allowed to do whatever they want with their money… people just think it’s a waste of money. It’s an opinion not an appeal to change the law to ban takeaway coffees.

Exactly this!

R1nt1nt1n · 19/12/2025 05:23

sickofbeingjudged · 18/12/2025 20:46

She drinks expensive coffee she just makes it herself so it’s fine

The coffee I buy is not expensive. It’s £5 a bag (as opposed to £5 a cup), lasts me 10 days and is made in an ancient £30 device that makes good coffee far better than anything Costa makes.

Redragtoabull · 19/12/2025 01:13

I get an absolute kick out of budgeting as a single parent for many, many years, I had no choice back then. My spreadsheet saved me and takes a couple of minutes every few days to update. I'm now on a 6 figure salary and still have my incoming / outgoing spreadsheet with pay dates and every important calendar date. I have many friends and family who call or message me before buying, especially bigger purchases, as I will find loop holes, codes etc. In 2025 I estimate that I have personally saved around £12k (no spreadsheet for this, I'm not that sad ... 🤔) This is on holidays, travel, weekly shop, appliance purchases, gifts etc. If I 'have' to pay full price for most things, I feel purse-onally violated. It's not for everyone but I love my spreadsheet 🤗

Crikeyalmighty · 18/12/2025 23:17

Dollybantree · 18/12/2025 20:35

It isn’t “wasting money” if it’s something you get enjoyment from and can afford though is it?

I was bored today and drove to the drive through Costa for a chai latte and croissant for something to do even though I wasn’t particularly hungry or thirsty. It got me out of the house and I sat in my car for a while enjoying listening to the radio and being alone sipping my drink and eating my pastry.

I also get my nails done once a month and my hair every 6 weeks bc I find it relaxing and I can afford it. I could do both these things at home.

I could probably afford an extra holiday or two if I stopped doing this but I don’t want to as I enjoy it and having one main holiday in the summer and a few weekends away is enough for me.

What I don’t understand is people who don’t understand that everyone is different and enjoys spending their time and money doing different things. I think those Dyson air wraps are a terrible waste of money. I think buying 5 grand tv’s/the latest iPhone is silly - but I understand that everyone enjoys spending their money on different things. Weird to be so virtue signally about hot drinks! I actually prefer my own homemade coffee also but sometimes I want to get out of the house and go and sit somewhere different - is that really so hard to understand? Where do you draw the line? Do you think it’s a waste of money to go out for meals because you could rustle up something similar in your own kitchen?

Weird.

Exactly - I said as much a few pages back , people have different tastes and priorities - I have an elderly relative in very late 80s- he has almost a million in bank accounts and shares , been on holiday twicein his life , rents a really grim and these days unsuitable council flat, and has had a really limited dull life despite being very intelligent simply because he is incredibly mean - no kids or partner ever either. The obsession with cafes is nuts, if people enjoy it that’s fine - people bemoan deadly town centres but then have an issue with those who do actually spend it seems

Pavementworrier · 18/12/2025 22:36

PigeonsandSquirrels · 18/12/2025 12:33

I have a bean to cup machine at home and get that same double espresso for pennies… you can get an ok machine for £80. You’d have paid for it in 26 days. Less than a month. And you’d save £1000+ a year.

Edited

It would not be as good as the Italian coffee I get which tastes like it's from Rome

QuietComet · 18/12/2025 22:02

R1nt1nt1n · 18/12/2025 20:26

They are never nice cafes. Chains have extinguished the nice independent cafe sector.

My nearest town has 5 cafes on our high street, none of them chains.

QuietComet · 18/12/2025 21:53

The cost of living has increased so much that budgeting for me is a necessity. I'd love to grab a coffee without a second thought, but at a fiver a pop, it soon adds up!

If you're in the position to spend without thinking, fab! But "budgeting culture" is more likely "shit, everything costs so much more now and my salary hasn't increased that much".

XenoBitch · 18/12/2025 21:51

FightNight · 18/12/2025 21:50

When I got my first job I lived at home paying only a small amount and saved roughly half my salary. I still felt flush as I had been a student for three years with very little money. I could never understand the colleague I sat next to who was in the same situation but could not go out in the week before her pay cheque. I remember asking how much she contributed at home and being shocked when she said nothing.

Some people spend money like they hate it. And some are savers and good at finding bargains.

FightNight · 18/12/2025 21:50

When I got my first job I lived at home paying only a small amount and saved roughly half my salary. I still felt flush as I had been a student for three years with very little money. I could never understand the colleague I sat next to who was in the same situation but could not go out in the week before her pay cheque. I remember asking how much she contributed at home and being shocked when she said nothing.

berlinbaby2025 · 18/12/2025 21:37

PigeonsandSquirrels · 18/12/2025 21:32

Nobody has said they shouldn’t be allowed to do whatever they want with their money… people just think it’s a waste of money. It’s an opinion not an appeal to change the law to ban takeaway coffees.

Which is a weird opinion to have about what other people spend their money on.

PigeonsandSquirrels · 18/12/2025 21:32

Kendodd · 18/12/2025 20:43

Even if money is tight though, people should be allowed simple pleasures. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a care worker or supermarket worker buying a daily coffee at the end of a long hard shift. In fact we shouldn't just be accepting of a society where people working hard doing absolutely essential jobs can't afford even the most basic of treats.

Nobody has said they shouldn’t be allowed to do whatever they want with their money… people just think it’s a waste of money. It’s an opinion not an appeal to change the law to ban takeaway coffees.

PigeonsandSquirrels · 18/12/2025 21:31

BlueOrangeRed · 18/12/2025 19:12

I find it weird that takeaway coffees are always the thing that get demonised.

I buy a takeaway coffee most days - if I’m commuting it’s nice to have one on the commute in, and if I’m working from home I like getting out of the house, walking into town and buying a coffee.

I’m fully numerate and so know I spend over £1000 a year on coffee. That’s absolutely fine by me. There’s other things I never or hardly ever buy. I rarely drink alcohol so spend very little on that. I get my hair cut once or twice a year, and never get it coloured.

Yet threads like these never focus on the woman who pays over £100 every six weeks for a hair cut, or gets frequent other beauty treatments. It’s always about the bloody takeaway coffee.

We all make choices and I’m lucky in that I can afford a daily takeaway coffee. And no, a Thermos from my house just won’t cut it!

Edited

Because £100 every 6 weeks still isn’t £1000 a year 😂 I’m kidding I also don’t do beauty treatments but just wanted to point that out.

sickofbeingjudged · 18/12/2025 20:46

Kendodd · 18/12/2025 20:45

Do you ever buy anything unnecessary? Or do you only drink water and eat porridge?

She drinks expensive coffee she just makes it herself so it’s fine

Kendodd · 18/12/2025 20:45

R1nt1nt1n · 18/12/2025 20:39

Spending ££££ on landfill shite you don’t need is also a waste of money even if you like it.

Do you ever buy anything unnecessary? Or do you only drink water and eat porridge?

Dollybantree · 18/12/2025 20:43

I’m interested in what your opinion is about, say, Christmas trees R1nt1nt1n?

We bought one at the weekend for £100 - will be chucked out on January 2nd.

What do you think of that 🤔?

Towels? I mean, we could just drip-dry…

And coffee, I mean why not do away with your coffee altogether and just drink water? Much healthier too!

Kendodd · 18/12/2025 20:43

Even if money is tight though, people should be allowed simple pleasures. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a care worker or supermarket worker buying a daily coffee at the end of a long hard shift. In fact we shouldn't just be accepting of a society where people working hard doing absolutely essential jobs can't afford even the most basic of treats.

XenoBitch · 18/12/2025 20:41

sickofbeingjudged · 18/12/2025 20:40

Do you have any joy in your life

It appears to be judging people for their choice in coffee.

sickofbeingjudged · 18/12/2025 20:40

R1nt1nt1n · 18/12/2025 20:39

Spending ££££ on landfill shite you don’t need is also a waste of money even if you like it.

Do you have any joy in your life

BauhausOfEliott · 18/12/2025 20:40

R1nt1nt1n · 18/12/2025 20:38

I haven’t got a coffee machine.

It is a waste of money however you want to justify it.

I’m starting to think your wiring might be faulty.

R1nt1nt1n · 18/12/2025 20:39

Spending ££££ on landfill shite you don’t need is also a waste of money even if you like it.