Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

This is pure deflection.

Other people are asking the same things, so if you can answer the questions and you're not just trying to change the subject, ignore me and answer one of them.

Can't you just have nothing. Does not harm or offend anyone.

Do you feel it’s appropriate to ridicule people for the God they worship? Surely if they worship a God or God at all abd you are an atheist then their position is so ridiculous that it doesn’t deserve respect therefore ridiculing someone’s religion is fine as they are just exposing themselves to ridicule.

You come across like someone who does not accept that others might see things a bit differently to you. It’s a shame, because you won’t convince others to listen to you and only end up preaching to the converted. I am sure I agree with a lot of what you say, but because I am not 100% aligned, you are on full blown attack mode.

The post is not aggressive. Only a person who needs an excuse not to address it would claim that it is. And only a person who is badly offended by factual truth would see it as an "attack".

Will you please tell that to the TRAs?

That's very unusual for all the transwomen you work with to completely pass, including vocally. The voice is apparantly one of the hardest things to feminise. They must all have had a lot of money for facial surgeries and vocal coaching. I'm surprised that they all told you they were trans too. You'd think at least a couple of the 100% passing ones would have opted to be stealth.

I mean they look female like any of my other colleagues look female and like I look female.

So here you say:

They have female names, female voices, dress and generally look female just like I do.

But elsewhere you say:

Because it was nothing in the way they looked or came across which made me think otherwise and they had a female name.

And you also say a man in a dress isn't a woman (maybe the beard is the determining factor?)

I'm sure you see what a hot mess of contradiction and obfuscation this is. It doesn't need to be this way, you know...

Gosh you are on attack, aren’t you? I am not going to respond to such an aggressive post.

Sexual roleplay is what has no place in the workplace .... unless it is a brothel.

Rule number one about kinks is that you only include others if you have their explicit consent. The explicit consent has to be given on an individual level. A manager cannot consent on the employees' behalf.

I recognize that for a lot of women with a trans identity, the identity is a trauma response. However, I am convinced that the majority of men who identify as trans are autogynephiliacs, and that should not be brought into the workplace.

That answers the question in more detail than your previous answer. I assume by female dress you mean skirts/dresses/blouses/etc? Female voices are presumably a result of surgery or a physical effort on their part to speak differently.

But I'd still like to know what you mean when you say they look female.

Of course you're not going to say it, because you know how absurd, reductive, sexist and plain untrue it is. But it's where your mind went and I'd bet anything that it's the truth, which is why you're so antsy, defensive, avoidant and, yes, angry that you're being pushed on it. You still won't tell us what you do mean...

There are very, very few men who really do pass so wonderfully as women in real life that it never would have occurred to you they might be male. So for you to have encountered several of them in close proximity is so unlikely that I highly suspect that you're either really, really unusually bad at sexing other humans, like bottom of the bell curve bad (would explain how you know someone presents as a woman without knowing what that means, I guess), or, more likely, you're not being wholly honest about how well they pass, or why you think they "present as women".

I think we all know that "female name, long hair, makeup etc" is exactly what you mean, and we also all know why you can't say it. Has it occurred to you that you could avoid this brain melting doublethink and resolve the contradiction that gets you so antsy, just by accepting that they are men, they can dress and present as they like, and they may well be lovely people, but they are still men and sometimes that matters?

Because it was nothing in the way they looked or came across which made me think otherwise and they had a female name. Okay now? Obviously if a man with a beard calls himself Monica, I am still able to tell he is male.

And if they asked you to use she / her, would you do that because that was their wish?

Because you said, in answer to the question of what presenting as female means "Really? It means that when I met them, they had female names and it did not occur to me that they would have been born male."

So you seem to be saying that having a female name = presenting as female.

I am going to steal that one in case I ever get asked to put my pronouns on my profile. Thank you very much!

They have female names, female voices, dress and generally look female just like I do. Is this a good enough response for you?

Yes okay,but I am not sure why this is addressed to me?

But you still haven't told us why you assumed they were female other than having traditionally female names. In my experience, that does not result in mistaking people's sex.

Eh no, it’s just saying that the trans people I work with I would not have noticed that they were born male. So I have no reason to start calling them by male pronouns now I know. What is difficult about this position?

Why do you think I am angry? I am not going to say that a man with a beard wearing a dress is presenting as a woman if that is what you would like me to say.

@Cybiil A friend of mine has a ds with an unusual old Irish name. It is traditionally a male name but had fallen out of common use. In recent years, it has started to be used as a girl's name so must people, until they meet him, assume he is a girl. To the best of my knowledge, despite him having what most people perceive as a girl's name, nobody has ever mistaken him for a girl when they meet him.

I also know several females called Dara/Daragh/Daire (very much a male name but still commonly used for boys too). Same with Naoise, although that is less commonly used for boys now despite being traditionallly a boy's name.

So in all of these instances, the name is not resulting in anyone mistaking these people for the opposite sex.

John Wayne’s actual first name was “Marion “.

Not that long ago I decided to have 'Goddess' as my preferred pronoun. When I was asked to remove it I said I was just being facetious only for them to suspiciously ask 'what facetious meant?'

Honestly, I despair.