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Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

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Horrace · 18/12/2025 10:11

I'm weak 🤣
My manager just phoned me to say there has been some serious complaints made about me that he must urgently address.
I panicked.
In the Pronouns section of my Teams profile, I have

'Take a Wild Guess'

Its been there for a few years. Its finally been noticed and I've been told to take it down because it's made someone or more than one possibly, FEARFUL of me.

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NemoSaltatSobrius · 18/12/2025 10:40

whittingtonmum · 18/12/2025 10:22

I think this can be interpreted as ridiculing those who share their preferred pronouns at work. I would not call this is professional behaviour or think it's acceptable in the workplace. If I were your manager I would have asked you to take this down before complaints come in. You don't have to share your preferred pronouns if you don't wish to do so but 'take a wild guess' is not appropriate in the workplace. No doubt transphopbic mumsnetters will disagree but wonder how many of them work professionally in environments where diversity and inclusion are regarded as part of a professional business environment.

This bollocks right here is going to keep me snurking all day long. Funniest thing I'm likely to read this week.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 18/12/2025 10:39

A fella at work has his pronouns as His/Majesty.

Plumtreerd · 18/12/2025 10:39

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 10:29

Have you guys not thought that maybe Alex, Sam and Charlie may not want to be called the wrong pronouns for their cisgender identity?

I have an unusual name and often am referred to as "he" at work by people who have never seen me. I can't say it's ever bothered me. I know I'm female.

Having said that, I agree that what OP wrote would likely fall under bullying at my workplace and really isn't appropriate.

CautiousLurker2 · 18/12/2025 10:39

Afraid I’d be replying with - ‘on the basis that holding GC views is legally protected, I think I’ll leave them as they are, but please do feel free to offer counselling and support to the person who complained. It must be so difficult to navigate the world when humorously flippant comments cause psychological trauma.’

PluckyChancer · 18/12/2025 10:39

whittingtonmum · 18/12/2025 10:22

I think this can be interpreted as ridiculing those who share their preferred pronouns at work. I would not call this is professional behaviour or think it's acceptable in the workplace. If I were your manager I would have asked you to take this down before complaints come in. You don't have to share your preferred pronouns if you don't wish to do so but 'take a wild guess' is not appropriate in the workplace. No doubt transphopbic mumsnetters will disagree but wonder how many of them work professionally in environments where diversity and inclusion are regarded as part of a professional business environment.

They totally deserve to be ridiculed. 🤣🤣

What about disabled employees? Are they allowed to signal their disability by use of special pronouns?

Diversity and inclusion seems to only apply to blokes wearing frocks. 😡

Plateofcrumbs · 18/12/2025 10:39

Ddakji · 18/12/2025 10:31

Adding “preferred pronouns” is bringing the personal into work (a personal ideology which is misogynistic and homophobic) and is unprofessional.

Why have so many people swallowed this nonsense?

It’s just pronouns. I have a first name that is commonly a given name for both males and females. Having pronouns on my email or teams profile avoids confusion. There doesn’t have to be any “ideology” about it.

Holdmeclosertinydancer2018 · 18/12/2025 10:38

Hilarious OP. Replace it with 'real woman'.

Horrace · 18/12/2025 10:38

@whittingtonmum

I am ridiculing those that feel the need to tell us their 'preferred ' pronouns

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JellySaurus · 18/12/2025 10:37

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 10:29

Have you guys not thought that maybe Alex, Sam and Charlie may not want to be called the wrong pronouns for their cisgender identity?

As one of them, I couldn’t care less. If it mattered, I’d tell them. As it is, it’s obvious once we speak or meet. I’ve had some hilarious double-takes, as well as some outright honesty - which, TBH, is also hilarious.

OP: stay 💪 Not your problem if somebody is frightened because you don’t submit to their misogyny. Your right to unbelief is protected in law.

Daygloboo · 18/12/2025 10:37

Ddakji · 18/12/2025 10:23

There are no such things as preferred pronouns. That’s where the unprofessionalism is, in anyone who thinks this is a thing. Pronouns don’t belong to people to prefer or otherwise.

But language changes over time. There is no static language.

LuncheonInThePark · 18/12/2025 10:37

Ddakji · 18/12/2025 10:31

Adding “preferred pronouns” is bringing the personal into work (a personal ideology which is misogynistic and homophobic) and is unprofessional.

Why have so many people swallowed this nonsense?

I haven't, I've already said I do not list my 'preferred' pronouns because I'm a woman so it's self explanatory.

Writing 'take a wild guess' under anything on a work profile is unprofessional, and the only reason people are pretending they don't see that is because which section it was written under.

SoScarletItWas · 18/12/2025 10:37

Chersfrozenface · 18/12/2025 10:31

@SoScarletItWas please explain the exact criteria for being "genuinely trans".

I’ve been picked up on this twice which is fair. I hesitated over it as I was typing at speed. I’m trying to consider than someone who has gone through surgery and is legally now ‘recorded’ as female on documentation etc would be (clumsy word) genuinely trans.

I agree that their fundamental biology hasn’t changed and cannot change. I didn’t mean ‘genuinely trans’ indicated that it had.

My personal view is that calling trans women ‘trans women’ is fine and we shouldn’t have to call them ‘women’ but there are so many pitfalls in this discussion that I will paint myself into a corner that doesn’t represent my actual thoughts.

I still feel that OP’s choice of words was antagonistic.

Sharptonguedwoman · 18/12/2025 10:36

PoppysAunt · 18/12/2025 10:34

I am 65. For over 40 years, married or single, my preferred title is Ms.
Very frequently, I am addressed as Miss or Mrs.
Sometimes people actually ask "is it Miss or Mrs?" and I have to clarify.
More than 40 years. I'm sure that other people can cope with some mistakes or misjudgement about their pronouns.

Absolutely agree.

Ncncnca · 18/12/2025 10:36

Ddakji · 18/12/2025 10:27

There is no reason to respect anyone who goes along with the nonsense that it “preferred pronouns”. It’s not worthy of respect. As far as I’m concerned people who do this are the ones behaving unprofessionally and they’ve exposed themselves to ridicule and exposed their employer to ridicule. So they don’t get whine when they are ridiculed.

I strongly disagree. You can have an opinion, but you can’t go around harassing people that share a different viewpoint.

Cattenberg · 18/12/2025 10:36

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 10:29

Have you guys not thought that maybe Alex, Sam and Charlie may not want to be called the wrong pronouns for their cisgender identity?

I'm often misgendered because people think my unusual name is a man's name. I can't say it upsets me. In fact, in my previous job, I used to prefer it if our suppliers assumed I was a man - they were less likely to fob me off then. I did laugh though, when one of them referred to me as my boss's "young lad". I was in my mid-thirties at the time (and pregnant).

I work for a university now and wouldn't dare to do what OP did, but sometimes it is tempting.

inamarina · 18/12/2025 10:35

whittingtonmum · 18/12/2025 10:22

I think this can be interpreted as ridiculing those who share their preferred pronouns at work. I would not call this is professional behaviour or think it's acceptable in the workplace. If I were your manager I would have asked you to take this down before complaints come in. You don't have to share your preferred pronouns if you don't wish to do so but 'take a wild guess' is not appropriate in the workplace. No doubt transphopbic mumsnetters will disagree but wonder how many of them work professionally in environments where diversity and inclusion are regarded as part of a professional business environment.

But that’s the issue, isn’t it?
One could also question why telling people how they should perceive you (ignoring the evidence of their own eyes) is considered professional and something that needs to be declared at a workplace.
Gender ideology is a belief system and not everyone is buying into it.

Chersfrozenface · 18/12/2025 10:35

LuncheonInThePark · 18/12/2025 10:30

I'm not surprised he didn't smile. It was really unprofessional and it's his job to manage you, so complaints will fall on his lap.

I don't have pronouns on my signature because I don't feel the need to have to explain I'm a woman when you can clearly see I am, but if I saw someone writing 'take a wild guess', I'd just think they were immature and unable to separate their personal views from being professional at work.

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As others have said, individuals demanding that specific pronouns be used when referring to them are the ones not separating their personal views from being professional at work.

PoppysAunt · 18/12/2025 10:34

I am 65. For over 40 years, married or single, my preferred title is Ms.
Very frequently, I am addressed as Miss or Mrs.
Sometimes people actually ask "is it Miss or Mrs?" and I have to clarify.
More than 40 years. I'm sure that other people can cope with some mistakes or misjudgement about their pronouns.

ThankYouNigel · 18/12/2025 10:34

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 10:29

Have you guys not thought that maybe Alex, Sam and Charlie may not want to be called the wrong pronouns for their cisgender identity?

I have one of these names you are talking about- zero issues with anyone knowing I’m the female one.

If there was, I’d politely enquire is that Alexander or Alexandra I’m speaking with?

TheNightingalesStarling · 18/12/2025 10:33

Tell him it was a protest against workplace misogyny where many unknowingly or knowingly discriminate against female employees.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 18/12/2025 10:33

I’m not surprised, OP. I shat my pants just reading that.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/12/2025 10:33

This thread is proof that pronoun people have had a collective sense of humour bypass.

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FjordCortina · 18/12/2025 10:33

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 10:29

Have you guys not thought that maybe Alex, Sam and Charlie may not want to be called the wrong pronouns for their cisgender identity?

But that's not a question of preferred pronouns . I received an email from a bloke called Wendy ( he came from somewhere in Africa) which had as the signature "Mr Wendy Name" to prevent obvious confusion.

HappyNewTaxYear · 18/12/2025 10:32

SoScarletItWas · 18/12/2025 10:27

I agree. We are ‘encouraged’ to add our pronouns but it’s not mandatory and you can choose ‘not set’ from the dropdown choices.

If you use deliberately provocative language like ‘Take a wild guess’ it will be seen as dismissive of people who are genuinely trans and perhaps don’t pass clearly as their preferred pronouns, so this is important to them.

I am in the camp of ‘there is no need for pronouns to be displayed at all’ but I can see why this is antagonistic in a corporate workplace.

What’s antagonistic is to have fully grown middle aged men stomping about in black mini dresses and tights in the City and expecting to be treated like a special kind of woman in the workplace. It’s bloody insulting.

However I think there are fewer of them now than a couple of years ago. Maybe it was all simply too much trouble.

AgentPidge · 18/12/2025 10:32

Horrace · 18/12/2025 10:23

Ive just left it blank.

I'm in my 50s, he is the same age as me. I laughed as he was telling me but he didn't smile once.

A professional environment has no room for humour [stern face, waggy finger].