Just been told to remove my pronouns from my Teams profile

Many people also believed the sub went round the earth which was 6000 years old.

They were wrong too.

No that wouldn’t follow. You’re imposing an ideology that not all women want. You’re better off listening rather than offending.

They do ! , particularly in the USA.

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Or do as I do, and not give a shiny shit about what you may (or may not) think you are, as long as you do the fucking job you are paid for.

Agree and many people still use gender and sex interchangeably.

We can be rational human beings together! Mine's a g&T, what are you having?

@jumpingpumpkin you've made me properly laugh. If ever a couple of sentences hit the heart of the issue and encapsulated the absurdity its yours. Brava.

This reflects me too!

What about putting in "I/me". After all, they are the pronouns you use when referring to yourself.

“Gender” is a ridiculous term used originally because certain people were too squeamish to use “sex” .nobody needs it , it has no value to most people and it’s particularly ironic and offensive that people who insist that we should bow down and accept their pronouns, feel absolutely confident in labelling the majority with terms against their will.

I agree this is the far better line for Op to have taken -

No, the equivalent would be "Are you Christian, a heretic or an infidel?"

Because asking about gender identity requires subscribing to a specific set of beliefs.

"What's your gender identity? Cis or trans?" is something of a "do you still beat your wife? Yes or no?" question. If you reject the premise of the whole shebang, you cannot answer.

Hah. I honestly don't care. I used to work in the kind of environment where I was asked about it in meetings, and explaining my GC position might have caused trouble for me. When asked, I'd just say 'I don't mind, any, whatever you want'. It's not up to me how someone else perceives me.

Well I have no idea what pronouns should be used for me

ideal world for me is everyone using they/them because in day to day life I don’t anyone’s sex is anyone’s business really

but since it’s such a hot topic I feel stating they/them might imply I somehow support people who see themselves as the opposite sex whereas I think it’s rather sad at best and I don’t want people to think I I support the blurring of sex boundaries in for example sport or changing rooms - because there is so much ideology in this

In a professional setting, I wouldn't even bother to fill those fields out. If anyone complains, then I'll complain. It's discrimination on the grounds of an insane militant gender ideology.

The grievance could also be brought by the person who has complained already especially if behaviour persists. And if OP fancies the risk of that and later on heading to an employment tribunal to have her day in court by all means she can continue to display her current attitude and behaviour in the workplace.

Most people would consider this route unsatisfactory career progression but it depends what you value in life and work.

No. The poster just told you that they don't have a gender identity. Many of us don't have gender identities.

YOU have just decided what gender identity LiftAndCoast and many of us have using your own beliefs. It is not a 'choice' in that there is no objective thing as a gender identity. It is only based on one person's belief.

I don't think it's terribly polite to dictate how people ought to refer to me.

My autistic son uses 'they' for absolutely everyone because it seems less stressful to him than to try and keep track of people's preferences. He gets very wound up about 'getting it wrong' so that's his solution.

I used sex-based pronouns for everyone I'm referring to in the third person because that's the syntax I prefer. I like clarity about the sex of person I'm describing. Other people are free to make their own choices about the language they use.

I think preferred pronouns are about as relevant as favourite colour or preferred form of exercise - I don't need to know that about anyone because it's not my business.

"I’m not sure you can not have a gender identity? Cis and trans are opposites and you’ll have to be one or the other, surely?"

No. Gender identity is based on some one's personal philosophical belief that there are 'gender identities'. Not only that, but no gender identity is definable so that someone understands what it is.

What is an 'agender intersex' person? Are you talking about someone who has a Difference of Sex Development? In other words, a medical condition that is clearly defined and where every person with a DSD can still be categorised as either male or female?

"Either way, your gender identity is your decision and most people will be respectful and describe you as your prefer."

Why is it respectful to describe someone as being 'female' and use female language when they are male? That is respect only going one direction and it is not respectful to the person who needs to use accurate language in their communication with others.

As shown on earlier pages, 'cis' is meaningless. It was a word that a group of people decided to use for their own purpose that did not fit the original purpose at all. Its use is just as meaningless as the word has become.

What is 'normal' is to refer to known males as 'he' and known females as 'she'. People of unknown sex are referred to as 'they'. I don't think anyone laughs and points at the use of 'they' for a person of unknown sex, its entirely reasonable and correct. It's the use of 'they' when sex is obvious that is criticised.

Equivalent would be “What is your religious affiliation”, where atheist is an acceptable answer, as is agnostic.

@HorracePut your pronouns down as I/me. Perfectly accurate.