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The hunger strikers

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igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 16:10

To think tweets like this from Sultana is useless?

https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2001268646149038254?s=46

She’s dying of her own actions. After committing horrendous crimes. Why are we wasting energy on this?

Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) on X

Qesser Zuhrah is dying inside HMP Bronzefield and the ambulance is still not here, @DavidLammy.

https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2001268646149038254?s=46

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BundleBoogie · 22/12/2025 13:43

ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:36

Is that a “horrendous crime”? a horrendous crime is murder. A horrendous crime is rape. A horrendous crime is not spray painting a plane.

Should they be punished for criminal damage. Yes, absolutely. But that would not normally involve detention before trial.

On which planet do you think what they did including causing overall life changing injuries to a policewoman is not a ‘horrendous crime’?

I don’t see why they think their emotional blackmail is so special that it warrants special treatment. For now, it’s a free country and they are entitled to stop eating but we are also entitled to ignore them. It’s sad that these young and idealistic people want to waste their lives though.

Dollymylove · 22/12/2025 13:42

Ian Brady did several hunger strikes through his incarceration, the authorities eventually deemed him incapacitated mentally and put him on a drip feed. I personally saw no point to this, they should have let the fucker starve to death.
They can do the same with this lot for all I care

Upstartled · 22/12/2025 13:29

noblegiraffe · 22/12/2025 13:19

She was part of the group that broke the female police officer's spine with a sledgehammer.

They are demanding to be released on bail.

One of their group was released on temporary bail to attend a wedding and did a runner, so apart from being violent criminals, they also pose a flight risk.

Nice people, right? How they have retained their victim halo tells you everything you need to know about the people who support them.

noblegiraffe · 22/12/2025 13:19

ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:02

She hasn’t committed horrendous crimes though has she and she shouldn’t be detained.

Her detention is political as is the proscription of PA.

This is all part of trend of the labour government increasingly authoritarian stance and should worry most people. Even those on the right

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation

She was part of the group that broke the female police officer's spine with a sledgehammer.

They are demanding to be released on bail.

One of their group was released on temporary bail to attend a wedding and did a runner, so apart from being violent criminals, they also pose a flight risk.

igiveupwiththis · 22/12/2025 13:13

Upstartled · 22/12/2025 12:48

Right, it's not like they were tagging the local bus stop.

Good to know these posters don’t see criminal damage as a big deal though. Wonder if they’d feel the same if it was their house being destroyed

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coconutchocolatecream · 22/12/2025 13:00

Commit a crime, face the consequences. Don't expect sympathy if you refuse food or medical care while waiting for the legal system to do its notoriously slow work. Can't say that I feel much sympathy for criminals, and hunger strikers in particular don't deserve my tears.

Upstartled · 22/12/2025 12:48

igiveupwiththis · 22/12/2025 12:45

It’s treason though, isn’t it?

Right, it's not like they were tagging the local bus stop.

igiveupwiththis · 22/12/2025 12:45

ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:36

Is that a “horrendous crime”? a horrendous crime is murder. A horrendous crime is rape. A horrendous crime is not spray painting a plane.

Should they be punished for criminal damage. Yes, absolutely. But that would not normally involve detention before trial.

It’s treason though, isn’t it?

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Upstartled · 22/12/2025 12:41

Are these the same Palestine Action crazies who broke the back of the police woman with a sledgehammer?

ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:36

igiveupwiththis · 22/12/2025 12:25

They broke into a military complex and damaged planes.

Is that a “horrendous crime”? a horrendous crime is murder. A horrendous crime is rape. A horrendous crime is not spray painting a plane.

Should they be punished for criminal damage. Yes, absolutely. But that would not normally involve detention before trial.

IsleofDen · 22/12/2025 12:28

MooPointCowsOpinion · 17/12/2025 16:31

“Horrendous crimes” - criminal damage to war machines? If a 19 year old Ukrainian woman caused £1million in damage to Russian war tanks she’d be a hero… can’t say anyone should be treated how she has been in prison nor should someone’s suffering receive such vitriol as this.

I don’t post this to convince the OP, or to convince those replying they hope this young woman gets no help and dies, but for anyone else reading the cruel replies here and feeling as sad as I do, the world is not this cruel in all circles as it is in this particularly white and privileged one. Compassion and kindness are still prevalent, and brown skinned people who protest war are not less deserving of fair access to the justice system and medical support than anyone else.

The correct comparison is a 19 year old Ukrainian woman doing damage to Ukrainian war tanks and she'd be rightly pilloried.

You do not attack your own military infrastructure outside of a civil war. Why is that so difficult to understand?

igiveupwiththis · 22/12/2025 12:25

ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:02

She hasn’t committed horrendous crimes though has she and she shouldn’t be detained.

Her detention is political as is the proscription of PA.

This is all part of trend of the labour government increasingly authoritarian stance and should worry most people. Even those on the right

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation

They broke into a military complex and damaged planes.

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ForCyanGuide · 22/12/2025 12:02

igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 16:10

To think tweets like this from Sultana is useless?

https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/2001268646149038254?s=46

She’s dying of her own actions. After committing horrendous crimes. Why are we wasting energy on this?

She hasn’t committed horrendous crimes though has she and she shouldn’t be detained.

Her detention is political as is the proscription of PA.

This is all part of trend of the labour government increasingly authoritarian stance and should worry most people. Even those on the right

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation

Sausagenbacon · 17/12/2025 17:27

And i'm fed up with old women being treated as special because they follow the omnicause.
FAFO , as they say

Sausagenbacon · 17/12/2025 17:26

All the supporters of PA can rot. Martin Amis said it best

The hunger strikers
igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 17:20

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 17/12/2025 17:17

It's not about the proscription necessarily. There are plenty of little old ladies in that group, too, they're harmless and have nothing better to do. Proscribing PA is more of flex, a way for the establishment to show what it can do. It means any group can be proscribed.

“Little old ladies” who support criminal damage and GBH? At the end of the day she’s been remanded in custody pending trial. The issues in our criminal justice system are well documented and the delays in getting cases to trial are well known. That’s a choice she made when she decided to commit a crime. She has now made the choice to abstain from food to protest her being treated as a criminal. Which is what she is.

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YorkshireGoldDrinker · 17/12/2025 17:17

igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 16:34

Trying to paint us as racists, nice. She’s doing this to herself. It is her choice. She has been remanded in custody until her trial because she supports a proscribed terrorist organisation.

It's not about the proscription necessarily. There are plenty of little old ladies in that group, too, they're harmless and have nothing better to do. Proscribing PA is more of flex, a way for the establishment to show what it can do. It means any group can be proscribed.

threesocksmorgan · 17/12/2025 17:10

NotDonna · 17/12/2025 16:27

Looks like they broke into somewhere and caused criminal damage. Seemingly before the group was banned. But criminal damage is criminal damage. They weren’t just waving placards.

Thanks
so righty in prison.

TigerRag · 17/12/2025 16:58

MooPointCowsOpinion · 17/12/2025 16:48

Well documented that she has been forced in and out of isolation with no reasons given, had visits cancelled and refused for loved ones trying to check on her during standard visiting hours, had her hijab taken away and not been allowed access to religious dress.

It was not a proscribed terrorist organisation at the time of her arrest, and retrospectively applying that is not allowed under the law.

Refusing medical care to prisoners is against our human rights in this country.

Is it ok that her rights are violated because you don’t like her?

what if down the line your rights are violated and then everyone on mumsnet comes together to decide that’s ok because we don’t like you? Is that how rights should be afforded to people?

I swear, this is exactly why entire governments can just stop being held accountable because the uneducated still love to foam at the mouth for a public hanging, but will settle for this treatment of a human being.

There's medical staff in prison?

igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 16:55

MooPointCowsOpinion · 17/12/2025 16:48

Well documented that she has been forced in and out of isolation with no reasons given, had visits cancelled and refused for loved ones trying to check on her during standard visiting hours, had her hijab taken away and not been allowed access to religious dress.

It was not a proscribed terrorist organisation at the time of her arrest, and retrospectively applying that is not allowed under the law.

Refusing medical care to prisoners is against our human rights in this country.

Is it ok that her rights are violated because you don’t like her?

what if down the line your rights are violated and then everyone on mumsnet comes together to decide that’s ok because we don’t like you? Is that how rights should be afforded to people?

I swear, this is exactly why entire governments can just stop being held accountable because the uneducated still love to foam at the mouth for a public hanging, but will settle for this treatment of a human being.

She hasn’t been refused medical care? At the end of the day she’s making this decision

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WestwardHo1 · 17/12/2025 16:49

Imagine being so convinced of your own moral superiority and rightness you'd throw away your life. Does she thinks it'll get her Brownie points at the pearly gates or something?

Does she realise most people are entirely unaware?

MooPointCowsOpinion · 17/12/2025 16:48

Well documented that she has been forced in and out of isolation with no reasons given, had visits cancelled and refused for loved ones trying to check on her during standard visiting hours, had her hijab taken away and not been allowed access to religious dress.

It was not a proscribed terrorist organisation at the time of her arrest, and retrospectively applying that is not allowed under the law.

Refusing medical care to prisoners is against our human rights in this country.

Is it ok that her rights are violated because you don’t like her?

what if down the line your rights are violated and then everyone on mumsnet comes together to decide that’s ok because we don’t like you? Is that how rights should be afforded to people?

I swear, this is exactly why entire governments can just stop being held accountable because the uneducated still love to foam at the mouth for a public hanging, but will settle for this treatment of a human being.

Sid9nie · 17/12/2025 16:46

And her group did commit a horrendous crime they broke a police woman's back with a sledgehammer. That can't be shrugged off.

Sid9nie · 17/12/2025 16:42

No sympathy. The delays in court dates were there before they committed their crime so they must have known it was likely.

igiveupwiththis · 17/12/2025 16:39

NotDonna · 17/12/2025 16:32

I didn’t see the previous post. No I wouldn’t want anyone to die but they have access to food & medical care AND very importantly MH care. And what would ‘Your Party’ do - force feed?

They’re trying to force medical care which apparently “wasn’t being provided”.

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