Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To cut my sister off if she does this again this year?

269 replies

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:17

I have 2 sisters. Sister 1 is 27, sister 2 is 25. Both still live at home and have no children. I am the oldest.

I have one DD, aged 9. We all live close together and see each other regularly.

Last year, sister 2 (25) didn’t bother buying my DD anything for her birthday or anything for Christmas. Not even a card. DD’s birthday is right before Christmas Day, and she came over to see her - so it’s not like she forgot. She also didn’t buy me, my other sister or anyone else in the immediate family anything for our birthdays - again, not even a card.

She works full time, earns a good wage and hardly pays any ‘rent’ for living at home. She has plenty of money to spare but prefers to spend it on her hair and lashes and Botox.

I don’t care about myself - I don’t need presents - but I think it’s bloody selfish to not bother with the only niece she has - when she can afford to do so. A card and gift for £10-15 would be enough. Last year, she bought her a pair of trainers 6-7 months after her birthday and Christmas, and only because I called her out on it.

AIBU to completely cut her off if she doesn’t bother with DD again this year?

OP posts:
SixtySomething · 17/12/2025 17:31

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:17

I have 2 sisters. Sister 1 is 27, sister 2 is 25. Both still live at home and have no children. I am the oldest.

I have one DD, aged 9. We all live close together and see each other regularly.

Last year, sister 2 (25) didn’t bother buying my DD anything for her birthday or anything for Christmas. Not even a card. DD’s birthday is right before Christmas Day, and she came over to see her - so it’s not like she forgot. She also didn’t buy me, my other sister or anyone else in the immediate family anything for our birthdays - again, not even a card.

She works full time, earns a good wage and hardly pays any ‘rent’ for living at home. She has plenty of money to spare but prefers to spend it on her hair and lashes and Botox.

I don’t care about myself - I don’t need presents - but I think it’s bloody selfish to not bother with the only niece she has - when she can afford to do so. A card and gift for £10-15 would be enough. Last year, she bought her a pair of trainers 6-7 months after her birthday and Christmas, and only because I called her out on it.

AIBU to completely cut her off if she doesn’t bother with DD again this year?

She's not a mother herself and doesn't move in those social circles. She probably doesn't understand how heartless she is being?

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 17/12/2025 17:28

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 17:19

Read the post again - and the impacts and wider ripples

you sound like you have healthy family system that allows for the discriminate giving of money where no one takes offence

maybe that relative was expressing how it made them feel

you are niave if you think most families function like yours - OPs family sounds rife with conflict

Edited

I still believe that a persons finances are no ones business but their own! My mother could hand my sibling £50k and i would neither expect to know about it or expect her to give it me as well! People are entitled to do whatever they wish with their time and money and no one has the right to express any dissatisfaction imo!

chunkyBoo · 17/12/2025 17:25

I just wouldnt bother sending her anything for Christmas or birthday

KitchenTrollyDolly · 17/12/2025 17:24

I wonder why she doesn't visit you often.

Leftsidefacing · 17/12/2025 17:23

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:26

No-one really likes my sister anyway - because of her behaviour - so I’m sure it won’t have too much of an impact 🤷‍♀️

Even with the dripfeed, I’d think carefully. Going NC puts a bomb into families and has far reaching consequences.

Nevernonono · 17/12/2025 17:23

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 15:10

Just to clear things up. Her other behaviours, where do I even start… she used to be alright but as she’s got older she’s turned into a very entitled and selfish human being. A spoilt monster really created by my mum quite obviously favouriting her out of all the siblings.

She gets into relationships, treats them awfully and then when they end up finally reacting, that then spills out into my mum’s house (very loud, chaotic arguments inside my mum’s house, outside of my mum’s house so it’s a show for the whole road). She treats my mum like a bank, my mum will often loan her thousands of pounds because my sister wants a lifestyle she can’t afford despite being on a good wage, and she’s never expected to really pay it back properly. She will go on holiday and ring my mum crying with some sort of drama every day the whole time she’s away - my mum had to go sick from work for a week last time because of the stress. She had the audacity to message my grandparents a really horrible message saying they control my mum’s life when that’s not true in the slightest - they let my mum crack on with her own life and it’s my sister who controls every aspect - and then when she wants running around, she has the cheek to ring them asking for favours. She has just turned into a horrible human being, hence why no-one really likes her or bothers with her anymore.

Cutting her off - I mean only me. Obviously I wouldn’t stop my DD from seeing her if they were both at my mum’s house and I wouldn’t make the effort to have any contact with her at all - but obviously I wouldn’t make a scene at family gatherings.

Quite the drip feed…

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 17:19

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 17/12/2025 17:13

I completely disagree! My money and finances are absolutely none of my kids business! I may give one child an amount for something one year but maybe the other needs some money a year later etc! They wouldn’t question it, the same as i would never ask interfere about what my parents give to my siblings! We had a relative who constantly did that and all that happened was everyone kept secrets from them!

Read the post again - and the impacts and wider ripples

you sound like you have healthy family system that allows for the discriminate giving of money where no one takes offence

maybe that relative was expressing how it made them feel

you are niave if you think most families function like yours - OPs family sounds rife with conflict

schoolfriend · 17/12/2025 17:17

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 15:10

Just to clear things up. Her other behaviours, where do I even start… she used to be alright but as she’s got older she’s turned into a very entitled and selfish human being. A spoilt monster really created by my mum quite obviously favouriting her out of all the siblings.

She gets into relationships, treats them awfully and then when they end up finally reacting, that then spills out into my mum’s house (very loud, chaotic arguments inside my mum’s house, outside of my mum’s house so it’s a show for the whole road). She treats my mum like a bank, my mum will often loan her thousands of pounds because my sister wants a lifestyle she can’t afford despite being on a good wage, and she’s never expected to really pay it back properly. She will go on holiday and ring my mum crying with some sort of drama every day the whole time she’s away - my mum had to go sick from work for a week last time because of the stress. She had the audacity to message my grandparents a really horrible message saying they control my mum’s life when that’s not true in the slightest - they let my mum crack on with her own life and it’s my sister who controls every aspect - and then when she wants running around, she has the cheek to ring them asking for favours. She has just turned into a horrible human being, hence why no-one really likes her or bothers with her anymore.

Cutting her off - I mean only me. Obviously I wouldn’t stop my DD from seeing her if they were both at my mum’s house and I wouldn’t make the effort to have any contact with her at all - but obviously I wouldn’t make a scene at family gatherings.

YABU to start a thread about a birthday card when clearly, it's not about the birthday card.

schoolfriend · 17/12/2025 17:15

HoneyParsnipSoup · 17/12/2025 14:45

Op OF COURSE it’s not bloody unreasonable to expect your sister to buy her only niece a card on her birthday! Only on Mumsnet is this ‘entitled and grabby behaviour’ - Mumsnet only considers legal relationships aka marriage, relationships where you can expect anything at all or any kind of care.

On the flip side - only on MN would someone suggest going NC because someone didn't buy a card! I agree it's a nice, totally normal thing to do and not unreasonable to expect, however, I also think to sever an entire familial relationship because someone doesn't get your kid a card feels somewhat dramatic.

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 17/12/2025 17:13

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 16:57

Of course it is her business - because it isn’t a healthy family system where everyone is treated equally!!!!

or things are named and processed “look I’ve had to help your sister out again - obviously I’m there for you if you need me to one day”

I completely disagree! My money and finances are absolutely none of my kids business! I may give one child an amount for something one year but maybe the other needs some money a year later etc! They wouldn’t question it, the same as i would never ask interfere about what my parents give to my siblings! We had a relative who constantly did that and all that happened was everyone kept secrets from them!

Betterbelieveit · 17/12/2025 17:09

You and your sister have different love languages. Most people gift because they want to and not because the other person will reciprocate. Otherwise, it might as well be a transactional relationship.

If you feel like your sister has to pay you back in gifts for the gifts you give her, it's time to ask yourself if you really love your sister.

I think you need to have a conversation with yourself, and maybe cut yourself off rom yourself.

MrsOverthinker25 · 17/12/2025 17:09

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:26

No-one really likes my sister anyway - because of her behaviour - so I’m sure it won’t have too much of an impact 🤷‍♀️

Yeah, you sound just as delightful as her 🙄 grow up.

TimeForATerf · 17/12/2025 17:08

Don’t be silly, she’s made it easy for you. You never need to buy her or any future partner or child a gift or card ever. It’s a win win.

Minnie798 · 17/12/2025 17:07

Does you sister buy you gifts? If she's not buying for anyone, she'd be getting sweet fa from me in the future and I'd tell her why.

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 17:04

Daisymail · 17/12/2025 17:00

Simple - this!

I don’t think so….

this is a game not played in plain sight and brings up emotions that fester

Daisymail · 17/12/2025 17:00

NewGoldFox · 17/12/2025 14:18

I don’t think I would cut her off just don’t gift her anything on Christmas or her birthday 🤷🏻‍♀️

Simple - this!

TangoWhiskeyAlphaTango123 · 17/12/2025 16:59

HoneyParsnipSoup · 17/12/2025 14:45

Op OF COURSE it’s not bloody unreasonable to expect your sister to buy her only niece a card on her birthday! Only on Mumsnet is this ‘entitled and grabby behaviour’ - Mumsnet only considers legal relationships aka marriage, relationships where you can expect anything at all or any kind of care.

She didn’t ask if it was unreasonable to expect a card. She asked if was UR to cut her sister off for not sending a card, big difference don’t you think.

Love the OPs drip drip drip when it didn’t go the way she expected.

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 16:57

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 17/12/2025 16:10

Im going to be honest here, you sound jealous of your mums relationship with her. Its not really any of your business how much money your mum gives her and what behaviour your mum tolerates from her. Your mother is a grown adult and if she was upset by all of this its up to her to deal with. You clearly dislike your sister so the best thing you can do is to simply have as little to do with her as you can but remain polite and civil when you do have to see her.

Of course it is her business - because it isn’t a healthy family system where everyone is treated equally!!!!

or things are named and processed “look I’ve had to help your sister out again - obviously I’m there for you if you need me to one day”

MrsDoubtingMyself · 17/12/2025 16:57

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:36

Oh no, she definitely expects things back in return! 😂 my mum nearly had a fit the first time I didn’t send my sister anything for an occasion - after she didn’t bother with DD - because of how my sister reacted

When you talk to your sister about the lack of presents for her neice, what does she say?

I think you'd be INCREDIBLY unreasonable to cut her off without explaining your feelings and getting her thoughts

Daygloboo · 17/12/2025 16:57

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:20

I stopped giving her anything last year when she didn’t buy anything for DD on both occasions. It’s the lack of effort on her part that is hurtful - that she can’t take 5 minutes out to buy a birthday card for her next time she’s in the supermarket 🤷‍♀️

I agree.It's bloody thoughtless. I'd go out of my way to obviously not do anything nice for her. Teach her a lesson, selfish so and so.

Maddyisqueen · 17/12/2025 16:54

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 15:10

Just to clear things up. Her other behaviours, where do I even start… she used to be alright but as she’s got older she’s turned into a very entitled and selfish human being. A spoilt monster really created by my mum quite obviously favouriting her out of all the siblings.

She gets into relationships, treats them awfully and then when they end up finally reacting, that then spills out into my mum’s house (very loud, chaotic arguments inside my mum’s house, outside of my mum’s house so it’s a show for the whole road). She treats my mum like a bank, my mum will often loan her thousands of pounds because my sister wants a lifestyle she can’t afford despite being on a good wage, and she’s never expected to really pay it back properly. She will go on holiday and ring my mum crying with some sort of drama every day the whole time she’s away - my mum had to go sick from work for a week last time because of the stress. She had the audacity to message my grandparents a really horrible message saying they control my mum’s life when that’s not true in the slightest - they let my mum crack on with her own life and it’s my sister who controls every aspect - and then when she wants running around, she has the cheek to ring them asking for favours. She has just turned into a horrible human being, hence why no-one really likes her or bothers with her anymore.

Cutting her off - I mean only me. Obviously I wouldn’t stop my DD from seeing her if they were both at my mum’s house and I wouldn’t make the effort to have any contact with her at all - but obviously I wouldn’t make a scene at family gatherings.

So is it really about the card?

id tell her your gonna take some space becuase of how her behaviour leaves you feeling - then you can take your time and go back if your ready

it sounds more like your family has an unhealthy balance or system and i suspect thats whats really behind this - do you find it hard to manage the feelings that come up with regard to your mum and sister and wider family system?

could you say to her “it would really mean a lot to me if you got my dd a card”

i actually think if she comes to see her that’s much more valuable

DaisyChain505 · 17/12/2025 16:54

Not everyone is a presents kind of person and that’s ok.

she came to see your daughter for her birthday and that’s what matters.

kids these days have far too much and from far too many people. Your daughter isn’t going to lose sleep over one extra present and neither should you.

I would never judge anyone for not buying me or someone I know a present.

housethatbuiltme · 17/12/2025 16:52

Eyeshadow · 17/12/2025 16:37

I am surprised by some of these replies.

She is a grown adult who is capable of buying something for her niece.

Its funny because there is a thread about a DH not buying a good enough present and posters are saying how selfish he is, if this is an ongoing problem she should leave etc.

My younger brother is exactly the same.
Lives at home and is babied and thinks it’s not his responsibility to buy gifts or make an effort. My mum used to buy a present and sign it from him but she’s stopped doing that now.
It’s just what you do with family, especially kids, you get them a present.
I have not cut him off but I told him he’s selfish and needs to grow up.

I don’t think you’re grabby or entitled to expect a present for your child at all.

DH being expected to buying for wife or Parent buying for children and adult children buying for parents are WILDLY different scenarios than literally demanding presents off an Aunt because coming over to see you wasn't deemed 'effort' enough.

housethatbuiltme · 17/12/2025 16:48

CrimboDilemma1 · 17/12/2025 14:24

grabby behaviour? 😂 we are talking about a quid for a birthday card to show a bit of effort and acknowledgement. It actually shows that I care about who makes an effort with my child and who doesn’t - blood or not 🤷‍♀️

'she came over to see her - so it’s not like she forgot'

Surely remembering and coming over is far more acknowledgement and effort than a card (never understood the obsession with cards, its literally a piece of trash... your not going to keep a dozen generic 'happy birthday love aunt kathy x' cards in your treasured sentimental possessions).

My DB never once bought my kids a birthday or xmas present, never remembered their birthdays or texted or visited... never bothered me, they aren't his kids.

My only childfree aunt use to send me (and all children in the family) money in a card, my other 6 aunts and 4 uncles never did. None ever visited me on my birthday either ever (in fact when one died they organized the funeral on my birthday because non of them even knew when my birthday was).

While its not unheard of to get something from and aunt and its nice too, it has certainly never been a requirement, so I agree you seem quite grabby to throw around 'NC' over something so shallow, unnecessary and materialistic.

Caterpillar1 · 17/12/2025 16:45

Jesus, some people are so petty. Going NC for a lack of a present or a birthday card. Insane!