Liverpool attacker sentenced

This is outrageous. I take it he will have to have refresher lessons, after not driving for xyz years! One would hope so, anyway. The fact that it might be possible for him to drive again, is just unbelievable.

As above I thought it was a ‘decent’ sentence and I’m from Liverpool.

I bet the wife could tell a different story. Poor woman.

Pure rage for what though? Liverpool fans? People celebrating? I genuinely don’t understand.

He had already been in prison when young for biting off someone’s ear in a fight. I do wonder if his wife knew he had been jailed for this when she started dating him I know someone who dates a guy who was in prison when young for putting someone in a wheelchair for life, she knew when she started dating him. I will be surprised if he ever leads any kind of normal life again even if let out.

It’s irrelevant to the sentencing and I agree it’s lenient, but did he really do it because he was irritated?

I didn't suggest you can. I was asking what the purpose of the sentence is.

Do some research on how sentences are decided. Many different things are taken into account including how long the law actually allows a judge to imprison someone in relation to a specific crime. There’s a reason members of the public are not judges.

He was able to manage it to the extent that multiple people who knew him from many different parts of his life were prepared to stand as character references for him. People like colleagues and clients, people from his volunteering and sporting roles with children, people who had nothing to gain from lying for him.

He had multiple character references from many parts of his life to say that wasn't the case at all. Don't be blaming his wife fgs!

Obviously on this day day his temper was a big problem, but there's absolutely nothing to suggest it had been for the previous 30 years.

I was surprised at how long the sentence was considering nobody was killed.

What do we think is the purpose of a prison sentence? I think that's what were all confused about in our own minds.

Is it rehabilitation? Although he has previous convictions for violence, they're 30 years ago, so he did manage to get his life on track, and there were multiple character references, who had nothing to gain/lose, to that affect.

Is it to protect the public? The liklihood of him doing the same thing again must be vanishingly small?

Is it straightforward punishment or vengeance? In which case it's a very expensive way to do it.

I don't know what happened. It does sound like it was straightforward rage, for a man who'd managed to keep that part of himself hidden for 30 years, and who doesn't appear to have put forward any reason for his rage on that day. I'm still baffled by it and I'm not sure what the alternative is, but 21 years in prison seems a very extravagant use of taxpayers' money to me.

I thought this as well.

I don’t see the point in measuring as months per person to be honest. I think the sentence is appropriate.

How long do you think he should have got?

21 years is a pretty long sentence considering he didn't actually kill anyone.

Seriously, think how long ago 21 years was for you. Think how old you'll be in 21 years.

Its a not insubstantial sentence.

You are reacting with your anger. While it is useful to feel righteous anger, it doesn't serve justice. We have a long legal tradition in this country that aims to balance both sides. If you are not satisfied that this man has ruined his own life and that of his wife and children, then you can write to appeal the sentence. In fact, you don't even have to bother because I am sure someone else will. But carry on frothing, no one on here can change the sentence.

About 21 years 😬

I just think the Judge has a unenviable job in this case because it was obviously an awful crime but you can’t just sentence him to 134 years in prison or a full life tariff because you feel upset by his actions and what could have been. You have to look at what was which, mercifully, was that nobody died and then apply the sentencing guidelines, consider mitigation and then consider totality.

His life is ruined, regardless of how long he spends in prison. So, yes, it's a very severe punishment.

I was confounded that he'd be able to drive again. Banned for an additional 3 years after his sentence ends. He'll be knocking on a bit by then but it doesn't seem right that he can be trusted behind the wheel again.