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To be concerned about a war?

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Namechangesecretsignature · 16/12/2025 08:14

Woke up this morning opened my SM and first posts I see are about a basically inevitably pending war with Russia. It’s the first I’ve heard of it. Sir Richard Knighton said the threat needs to be taken seriously and “called for greater honesty with uk families about what it means to prepare for the very real threat to national security”. He also said security situation is more dangerous than it has been at any point in his career and the UK can no longer rely on military forces alone to keep security safe. Finally the comment of “sons and daughters must be prepared to fight” it would take a “whole nation effort” and “families would have to face real sacrifice”

i mean wtaf? I certainly won’t be rushing to the frontline that’s for sure. What’s going on? Very concerned

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grindergirl · 16/12/2025 16:47

Bob Dylan's 1963 song Masters of War is as relevant today as it was at the outset of the Vietnam War. Conflict and destruction are always needed for more power and more profits. In the West, politicians and the military continue to 'build the death planes, hide behind walls' and do the bidding of their corporate overlords. I have no idea why people think Putin wants war with the UK. Do they really believe he wants to get his hands on the mountain of debt, the crumbling public services and all the other ills of this woe-begotten country? If you belong to the ruled and not the rulers, it doesn't much matter which poxy flag is flying. To quote from another Dylan song, we're all 'only a pawn in their game'.

smallglassbottle · 16/12/2025 16:42

luckylavender · 16/12/2025 08:43

Abroad where? Russia isn’t just after us.

Somewhere inexpensive which isn't in conflict with Russia. I'll send mine to Colombia or Thailand or such like.

BreakingBroken · 16/12/2025 16:32

Everyone will be doing something paying more taxes, working in affiliated industries, or front line.

xmasstress12 · 16/12/2025 16:23

Why is it the son’s & daughters that have to be sacrificed? We need young people!

BreakingBroken · 16/12/2025 16:19

I’m surprised you’re only now learning about the possibility that the war in Ukraine could expand to something bigger.
That besides Ukraine other former Soviet states are at risk.
The US appears to be forcing Europe to fend Europe on its own shaking a few old notions up.
As for not supporting; well you already support the current efforts as people flee conflict zones. Your taxes being used to assist them and assist arming up as the US continues to suggest they are pulling out of helping.
Take a look at the economic games the US is playing regarding tariffs and the latest trade deal which the US is pulling out of; it’s all tied in. So you will be paying more and job security erodes. So you are involved although somewhat remotely.

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:56

HoneyParsnipSoup · 16/12/2025 15:45

Well it’s hasn’t because he isn’t the only one. Trade Union leaders, commentators, activists, all left wing people in thrall to Russia. From their ivory towers of course. It’s sickening.

Are you watching and listening to the same news as everyone else - only left wing commentators and alike are doing this are they!

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 15:54

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:42

Nobody is lusting over a war. I’ve merely pointed out that nobody will be asking you to sign a consent form as to whether you agree to being used as Cannon fodder.
Your consent is not required in these scenarios

So now resistance is futile too. Well, we'll see. Not holding my breath as to having this "hypothetical" scenario being tested out. I'm far more bothered about people who aren't in authority deciding to exercise their presumed right to it and doing the dirty work themselves based on their own assumptions and delusions. The Stasi come to mind. How did you feel about people who didn't clap for the NHS during the pandemic by the way?

HoneyParsnipSoup · 16/12/2025 15:45

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:21

You reckon do you? What a load of incoherent nonsense. I know it can be challenging but do you honestly only think that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a big wokey Corbyn fan! I can't stand the man, I bet that's put a f**king spanner in your perpetual indignation machine!

Well it’s hasn’t because he isn’t the only one. Trade Union leaders, commentators, activists, all left wing people in thrall to Russia. From their ivory towers of course. It’s sickening.

Ninjasan · 16/12/2025 15:43

Namechangesecretsignature · 16/12/2025 08:14

Woke up this morning opened my SM and first posts I see are about a basically inevitably pending war with Russia. It’s the first I’ve heard of it. Sir Richard Knighton said the threat needs to be taken seriously and “called for greater honesty with uk families about what it means to prepare for the very real threat to national security”. He also said security situation is more dangerous than it has been at any point in his career and the UK can no longer rely on military forces alone to keep security safe. Finally the comment of “sons and daughters must be prepared to fight” it would take a “whole nation effort” and “families would have to face real sacrifice”

i mean wtaf? I certainly won’t be rushing to the frontline that’s for sure. What’s going on? Very concerned

I need to see his children and grandchildren first volunteering to fight. Also, politician's children too.

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:42

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 15:29

You do realise this perfectly illustrates the futility of the war you seem to be lusting after?

Nobody is lusting over a war. I’ve merely pointed out that nobody will be asking you to sign a consent form as to whether you agree to being used as Cannon fodder.
Your consent is not required in these scenarios

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:41

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:24

A brain is probably useful to have when fighting in a war surely?

Probably not, I would say being built like a brick shit house would come in a lot more handy. Don’t need to outrun the enemy, only need to outrun you.
Hypothetically speaking, of course

anniegun · 16/12/2025 15:38

We are at war with Russia , its just a cold war not a hot one (yet). We do actually have european soldiers fighting as hard as they can to defend Europe from Putin. But instead of fully funding and arming them (so their soldiers do all the fighting and not our children) we are keeping back the arms and support they need. Europe (inc the UK) has given more cash to Putin for oil and gas than it has used to supprt Ukraine. We should back Ukraine to the hilt as their blood sacrifices will prevent our boys and girls being killed when Russia moves on to its next target

Birthdaysocks · 16/12/2025 15:37

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:06

And here's the drip, drip, drop again folks!

What exactly is dripping?

Do you believe the direction of travel with human rights and employment rights would suddenly be overridden and reversed by a labour government to enforce mandatory enlisting?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 15:29

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:24

How long did it take America to come to our rescue last time in Europe? I seem to remember quite a long time And only when it was financially lucrative

You do realise this perfectly illustrates the futility of the war you seem to be lusting after?

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:28

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:24

How long did it take America to come to our rescue last time in Europe? I seem to remember quite a long time And only when it was financially lucrative

How long was it exactly? So you were there then as you, "seem to remember"? I bet it felt like forever if you were there?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 15:26

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:20

Your mighty brain is going to protect you In the event of a war, is it? I hope they’re all like you. It will mean they’ll be more resources for the fittest in the event of armageddon.

And you’ve openly said you won’t even fight back. Good. v

Have you thought about touching grass and doing some deep breathing? Might help your steadily rising blood pressure. Hypothetically.

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:24

Newbutoldfather · 16/12/2025 15:23

@EssexMan55 ,

‘Just not true. They are currently increasing manufacture of missiles that can reach the UK. And we have no air defences against this currently.’

Do you not believe that the U.S would defend the U.K. if Russia fired missiles at us?!

Putin is foolhardy but he is not completely insane.

How long did it take America to come to our rescue last time in Europe? I seem to remember quite a long time And only when it was financially lucrative

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:24

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:20

Your mighty brain is going to protect you In the event of a war, is it? I hope they’re all like you. It will mean they’ll be more resources for the fittest in the event of armageddon.

And you’ve openly said you won’t even fight back. Good. v

A brain is probably useful to have when fighting in a war surely?

Newbutoldfather · 16/12/2025 15:23

@EssexMan55 ,

‘Just not true. They are currently increasing manufacture of missiles that can reach the UK. And we have no air defences against this currently.’

Do you not believe that the U.S would defend the U.K. if Russia fired missiles at us?!

Putin is foolhardy but he is not completely insane.

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:21

HoneyParsnipSoup · 16/12/2025 15:10

Not witty just an observation.

The left have suddenly hopped into bed with Russia for no other reason than they’re being instructed to by their West-hating overlords, like Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn.

They will do anything at this point to bring about the dismantling and destruction of their own home and their children’s lives.

They’re insane.

You reckon do you? What a load of incoherent nonsense. I know it can be challenging but do you honestly only think that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a big wokey Corbyn fan! I can't stand the man, I bet that's put a f**king spanner in your perpetual indignation machine!

kittywittyandpretty · 16/12/2025 15:20

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 14:53

Indeed, I think walnut brain is mightily restrained when other posters have "hypothetically" advocated for shooting conscientious objectors and referred to them as drains on society.

Your mighty brain is going to protect you In the event of a war, is it? I hope they’re all like you. It will mean they’ll be more resources for the fittest in the event of armageddon.

And you’ve openly said you won’t even fight back. Good. v

HoneyParsnipSoup · 16/12/2025 15:10

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:03

So witty...

Not witty just an observation.

The left have suddenly hopped into bed with Russia for no other reason than they’re being instructed to by their West-hating overlords, like Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corbyn.

They will do anything at this point to bring about the dismantling and destruction of their own home and their children’s lives.

They’re insane.

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:06

Birthdaysocks · 16/12/2025 15:01

And yet we have an employment rights bill going through that allows you to go off sick on day one.

Labour would have to completely reverse the human rights framework to do this. Not happening.

And here's the drip, drip, drop again folks!

Goldenbear · 16/12/2025 15:05

MistressoftheDarkSide · 16/12/2025 14:53

Indeed, I think walnut brain is mightily restrained when other posters have "hypothetically" advocated for shooting conscientious objectors and referred to them as drains on society.

Yes, it was, some scarily blood thirsty posters on here.