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Should I write to my MP about this?

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BeGladTealDog · 15/12/2025 13:45

So after watching this, not only am I aghast, but am I being reasonable to write to my MP to request why this information being kept secret. If there is nothing to hide then why not just publish the data? Reasonable or unreasonable?

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LoyalHedgehog · 15/12/2025 14:59

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 14:52

There was a significant uptick in excess deaths AFTER the Covid vaccines were rolled out.

We still can't say if COVID opened the door for other diseases or viruses to take hold. We may never know. However there are loads and loads of nasties that can infect, clear up, and then re-emerge decades later to cause havoc.

None of which is a reason to dodge a vaccine that is intended to help us all.

Then if your theory is correct, then why would UKHSA refuse to be transparent with the data?

LoyalHedgehog · 15/12/2025 14:58

randomchap · 15/12/2025 14:02

Because he pushes an antivax position. He's anti-science and untrustworthy

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From what I know about him, he was very pro-vaccine and promoted the shots until he himself experienced an adverse event.

What does anti-science mean? Do you think he is anti-science because he does not agree with the consensus? Surely the whole point of science is to challenge the established consensus and limits of known knowledge, and the status quo? After all, this is how science progresses is it not?

I remember from my science at school that Galileo was ridiculed because he believed that the earth went round the sun and not the other way round. No doubt at the time he was called an 'anti-science conspiracy loon' by people with vested interests, or by those who simply didn't know any better.

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 14:52

There was a significant uptick in excess deaths AFTER the Covid vaccines were rolled out.

We still can't say if COVID opened the door for other diseases or viruses to take hold. We may never know. However there are loads and loads of nasties that can infect, clear up, and then re-emerge decades later to cause havoc.

None of which is a reason to dodge a vaccine that is intended to help us all.

LoyalHedgehog · 15/12/2025 14:49

BadgernTheGarden · 15/12/2025 14:12

When you think of the millions upon millions of covid vaccinations world wide there are sure to be some serious side effects and from early on we were warned about them, hence no routine vaccination of children where the risk wasn't thought worth it as children only got a mild form (usually). And when you saw the numbers dying from covid before the vaccines, it was worth the risk for many people particularly for the elderly and other at high risk groups.

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There was a significant uptick in excess deaths AFTER the Covid vaccines were rolled out. This is correlation, but does not reliably establish causation. Surely if the vaccine was 'safe and effective' then the opposite should have happened, and excess deaths should have dropped?

All the OP is doing is highlighting that the UKHSA has been asked for the data that shows all cause mortality in the vaccinated v's unvaccinated groups. This data would show whether correlation is likely to = causation (or not).

The UKHSA has refused on multiple occasions to be transparent with the data, yet has released the data to the vaccine companies.

Since the public data release could be an opportunity to silence the 'conspiracy' lot once and for all, I wonder why they still choose not to release the data. Could it be that the data contains information that is inconvenient to the powers that be?

ZippyPeer · 15/12/2025 14:34

BeGladTealDog · 15/12/2025 13:58

What exactly does that have to do with the UKHSA freedom of information request being discussed?

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Like in GCSE history, I believe the PP is commenting on the reliability of the source (I have no opinions on this person myself, not had time to)

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 14:21

The main issue with vaccines is that (some) individuals only think in the world in terms of themselves (there is a joke about poor vision because of eye strain, if you like).

They completely and utterly ignore the fact that when you get a vaccination you aren't just doing it for you. You are doing it for the rest of society as well. The two are inseparable.

BadgernTheGarden · 15/12/2025 14:12

When you think of the millions upon millions of covid vaccinations world wide there are sure to be some serious side effects and from early on we were warned about them, hence no routine vaccination of children where the risk wasn't thought worth it as children only got a mild form (usually). And when you saw the numbers dying from covid before the vaccines, it was worth the risk for many people particularly for the elderly and other at high risk groups.

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 14:11

Hankunamatata · 15/12/2025 14:00

This.

All vaccines carry risk, the illness carries greater risk. Its about statistics.

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Careful. Understanding science is akin to witchcraft in some places.

BadgernTheGarden · 15/12/2025 14:08

Loads of information here. I haven't bothered to read in detail.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

randomchap · 15/12/2025 14:02

BeGladTealDog · 15/12/2025 13:58

What exactly does that have to do with the UKHSA freedom of information request being discussed?

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Because he pushes an antivax position. He's anti-science and untrustworthy

Hankunamatata · 15/12/2025 14:00

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 13:53

Many are claiming that the Covid vaccines have harmed them or their loved ones. Our government are claiming that they are 'safe and effective'.

Both can be true.

This.

All vaccines carry risk, the illness carries greater risk. Its about statistics.

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BeGladTealDog · 15/12/2025 13:58

randomchap · 15/12/2025 13:56

He pushes misinformation about the vaccines, he's not a medical doctor, and claimed ivermectin could be used to treat covid.

He's not a reliable source of information

What exactly does that have to do with the UKHSA freedom of information request being discussed?

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randomchap · 15/12/2025 13:56

He pushes misinformation about the vaccines, he's not a medical doctor, and claimed ivermectin could be used to treat covid.

He's not a reliable source of information

SerendipityJane · 15/12/2025 13:53

Many are claiming that the Covid vaccines have harmed them or their loved ones. Our government are claiming that they are 'safe and effective'.

Both can be true.

ComfortFoodCafe · 15/12/2025 13:52

You can but they won’t listen. Love Dr John Campbell though! Been following him since 2020.

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BeGladTealDog · 15/12/2025 13:52

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/12/2025 13:46

Don’t plan on watching a YouTube clip with no context so OP care to share what you are so upset about?

Many are claiming that the Covid vaccines have harmed them or their loved ones. Our government are claiming that they are 'safe and effective'.

UKHSA has confirmed that they do hold all of the data which would settle the matter once and for all, and allow the safety of the vaccines to be vindicated in relation to excess deaths (or not as the case may be).

But despite many FOI requests for the data to be released into the public domain, UKHSA are still refusing to release it because they say releasing the data would lead to the “distress” of bereaved relatives (if a link was discovered).

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JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 15/12/2025 13:46

Don’t plan on watching a YouTube clip with no context so OP care to share what you are so upset about?