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to be fed up with how f-ing difficult everything is?

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GrinchyScroogus · 15/12/2025 13:15

Maybe I'm caught in one of those phases where everything goes wrong. I feel like everything is such an f-ing hassle if you interact with any kind of shop or goods or services and I'm fed up with it.

I've had a delivery where it was just left in a puddle when it should have been put through a letter box, the box soaked through and the item was damaged - not unusuable but not as ordered. I emailed asking for a partial refund and got sent a £5 gift card. WTF. Never ordered from these people before and had no need for anything else from them. Had another go and eventually they refunded me £20 (about 50%) - so it was worth doing but just hassle. Offering a gift card for something delivered damaged is terrible customer service, so is having to force the customer to raise it again.

Another problem where had to try to get info out of a previous company about what work they'd done to give a new company. No one answering the phone on hold forever. Phoned repeatedly and wasted a lot of time and phone bill money.

Ordered something from Amazon from a 3rd party. what was delivered was not what was described at all. Actioned return but they expected me to pay postage so needed more emails to sort that out as I was not prepared to pay postage to return something that was there complete misdescription.

A (Well known for being incompetent) courier company keep delivering a neighbours parcels to us because they can't read the address apparently (not because they aren't in). Trying to contact them is near impossible.

Just one thing after another. Complaining is stressful and I hate all this but if you don't you lose a lot of money. Leaving the courier which is just a pain, the total cost of not trying to sort out all this would have been about £130 - none of this is just shopaholic shopping either, some of it was serious maintenance stuff.

It just seems that unless you stay at home and do nothing, every engagement with every shop or service causes problems AND then sorting it out is never easy.

Does anyone else have this experience or do most people just suck up the wasted money and let it go?

SO FED UP.

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unsuregiraffe · 19/12/2025 17:59

Yes! Awful!!! My favourite recently was someone coming to deliver 3 x large, heavy items. Called me and said 'I'm on this road'. I said 'O.K I don't live there...' 'well I put in the postcode'.

The deliver driver had literally just put the postcode into his sat nav without bothering to add in the address and then got frustrated when I told him he needed to actually come to the address as I couldn't carry the massive, heavy items 5 minutes down the road.

And what about when they do something wrong, offer you a £10 gift card as an apology after 30 minutes spent on the phone following a lengthy conversation with an AI chatbot that can't help you with any personal info anyway, but delivery costs £3.99 so you've actually been given £6.01 as a 'gesture of goodwill'. Infuriating!

MrsZiggywinkle · 19/12/2025 17:43

There’ll be another thread on here shortly with lots of retail staff and customer service staff complaining how rude customers are.

Er yeah, because I have finally got through to you after a chat bot, ringing twenty times and being on hold for 55 minutes for you to tell me that I’ve called the wrong number…..

jeremyclarksonsthirdnipple · 19/12/2025 16:57

I agree with you all..The stress is awful.

ZenZazie · 19/12/2025 16:48

Everything this years seems far more likely to take at least theee goes to he anywhere, and even then things never quite get sorted. It’s exhausting

ThisTicklishFatball · 19/12/2025 16:46

BarilynBordeaux · 16/12/2025 07:03

Totally agree with pretty much all posts! Apps that don’t work, shitty customer service, outright negligence…it gets worse and worse and no one running anything gives a fuck.

Agree.

It feels like nothing can be done simply or quickly anymore, let alone done well, with endless hurdles to clear before making any real progress. It’s draining. Even trying to speak to a real person at a company to fix the smallest issue feels impossible.

I have a friend from Brazil who’s nearly losing his mind from all the stress caused by the bureaucracy involved in solving problems. He says that in his country, there’s a full consumer law code to protect people from companies, along with a whole government institution dedicated to defending consumer rights. Isn’t it wild that a so-called third-world country has something we don’t? He also mentions that there are actual employees in companies whose job is to help and support consumers. It’s not perfect—things often go wrong—but at least they have laws and a government body to fight back. Of course, it’s not all smooth sailing there either, especially when companies or their employees aren’t cooperative, or when communication breaks down. Still, like I said, at least they have laws and a government institution to stand up for consumers.

ThatMintMember · 19/12/2025 16:24

Totally agree! Everything is painful these days. There's a fight needed for everything.

Today: Food delivery with double cream that expires tomorrow, got to rebuy now and request a refund. 2 extra tasks for something that was supposed to make my life easier.

Last week: Car went into garage for service, brakes fixed and battery replaced. They didn't bother doing the battery or the brakes. Now got to manage without the car 2 days next month.

Earlier this month: son had hearing test booked automatically on an inconvenient date, rang about 20 times to rearrange and finally got through about an hour before the appointment (their opening hours on the letter were clearly wrong). Rebooked for a better date only to receive a letter saying it's been rearranged for another inconvenient date. Ended up just cancelling it in the end as it was no longer needed.

It's all such a waste of everyone's time!

GrinchyScroogus · 19/12/2025 15:31

Another problem I've found is not even being able to communicate with a company at all.

Delivery driver not delivering to us caused property vehicle damage with van. Tried to contact the company to claim for the damage. Only way to contact them is via their online chat. "Please enter your parcel reference number"
I DON'T HAVE A PARCEL REFERENCE NUMBER AS YOU WEREN'T DELIVERING TO ME.
Tough luck. With no reference number you can't even access the chat!!! Can't move forward.

Another one - online chat. Please send me your phone number as I want to make a billing complaint. "Which venue are you complaining about. Enter venue". I'm not complaining about a venue. Arrgh. Again you have to pick something from a drop down menu or you can't move forward.

It literally makes me want to become a nun in solitary confinement. What do they call those people? Anchorites? That's it. Not have to deal with anyone ever.

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GrinchyScroogus · 19/12/2025 15:23

@Badbadbunny @MrsZiggywinkle

MrsZiggywinkle · 16/12/2025 16:59
Wait until you have to do banking for an elderly relative using Lasting Power of Attorney. That’s a whole other level of madness. I have a whole list of banks and companies I will never use again.

I agree. I've done it for family and also some clients over the years. My list of banks not to touch with a bargepole include Post Office and Halifax, both of which I've found to be slow and utterly useless several times with different people. I closed my own accounts with them a while ago as they don't deserve business the way they poorly treat the elderly, their families and families of the deceased customers.

Hell yes to the horror show that is Halifax. Obstructive, incompetent, unpleasant to deal with, no compassion for the difficulties faced by people needing to use LPAs. Would never use them.

NatWest was good and ++ points also to Nationwide.

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NewGirlInTown · 18/12/2025 23:58

NimbleHiker · 15/12/2025 13:46

I agree. I wanted to cancel sky moovies. It took an age to get through on the phone. When i finally managed to speak to someone it was like getting blood out of a stone. They only did what i asked when i threatten to cancel my entire sky package. It really bugs me that i can upgrade my sky package online. Yet i have to waste a lot of time trying to get through on the phone if i want to downgrade my package.

Sky are absolute bastards for this.
I used to be able to manage my account using the options on my TV.
Clearly they want everyone to download their App. Fuck off! Why should I have to load my phone storage with your crap?
Tried phoning them… invariably get an overseas call centre where the level of English is so poor that communication is impossible.
They win when you give up. It’s all absolutely deliberate.
Once I am fully out of contract, I’m off. Seeing their adverts offering services for £25 for new customers only has just finished it for me.

BeQuirkyMintScroller · 18/12/2025 23:41

I miss when mobile phones were really good at making phone calls.

MrsZiggywinkle · 18/12/2025 23:18

Badbadbunny · 17/12/2025 12:05

I agree. I've done it for family and also some clients over the years. My list of banks not to touch with a bargepole include Post Office and Halifax, both of which I've found to be slow and utterly useless several times with different people. I closed my own accounts with them a while ago as they don't deserve business the way they poorly treat the elderly, their families and families of the deceased customers.

Others have been really good such as Yorkshire Building Society, Nationwide Building Society and LLoyds TSB. It's no coincidence that these are the banks I have our household accounts with and I recommend them endlessly to family, friends and clients.

Agree with you on Nationwide. Skipton was good too. Handy to know about Yorkshire Building Society as they have a branch nearby.

The worst was Santander.

Badbadbunny · 17/12/2025 12:08

Newstartplease24 · 16/12/2025 22:39

It’s all a total shit show and so fucking exhausting.

I feel like when all this online customer service stuff started, it was within a framework where everyone accepted that customer service should exist. It should be possible to fix things, get things right - but maybe it could be a bit cheaper or quicker if customers help themselves a bit with the standard stuff. Over time, the idea that it should even be possible seems to have totally eroded. It used to be a different way of getting help (in theory) but now it’s just a symbolic act of ritual pointlessless that stands in for a giant pair of two fingers flicking the v’s. You can’t get us! We aren’t going to help you! There’s nothing you can do!

I hate it on here when posters berate other posters for expecting better. Dont forget what life used to be like! Once you could see doctors! Once you could get refunds on blatantly faulty goods! We aren’t crazy to long for those days back!

Nail on the head and why I try to use service providers who offer a better service, including banks/building societies that still have local branches, shops that employ empathic humans rather than grumps, even online firms where you can actually speak with a human relatively easily (I tend to scope them out in advance by calling customer service before I buy or commit to anything just to see how easy it is). We shouldn't have to put up with crap service, whether from businesses, public sector organisations, etc. and need to vote with our feet and complain. We certainly shouldn't accept the general malaise of having to put up with crap everywhere because "that's how it is these days". People power still works!

Badbadbunny · 17/12/2025 12:05

MrsZiggywinkle · 16/12/2025 16:59

Wait until you have to do banking for an elderly relative using Lasting Power of Attorney. That’s a whole other level of madness. I have a whole list of banks and companies I will never use again.

I agree. I've done it for family and also some clients over the years. My list of banks not to touch with a bargepole include Post Office and Halifax, both of which I've found to be slow and utterly useless several times with different people. I closed my own accounts with them a while ago as they don't deserve business the way they poorly treat the elderly, their families and families of the deceased customers.

Others have been really good such as Yorkshire Building Society, Nationwide Building Society and LLoyds TSB. It's no coincidence that these are the banks I have our household accounts with and I recommend them endlessly to family, friends and clients.

aboveandover · 17/12/2025 11:01

I had to fill in a triage form yesterday for my son to be seen by the doctors (he is recovering post op and needed meds for new condition) and was out at the pharmacy so had to do it on the phone. It is hard to type because the screen is so small. I am middle aged so God knows how elderly people do it. They must give up :(

I had put my name in a box instead of my son's name. Even though I had clearly stated in the description that I was looking for help for my son, they text me and asked me to fill in a completely new form before they could go further.

This is not in any way to do with the incredible and hardworking NHS staff and I'm sure it helps with the sheer numbers of people who need to use the system but it used to be so much easier. The last thing you want to be doing when you're ill or someone else is ill is grappling with fiddly forms.

Newstartplease24 · 16/12/2025 22:39

It’s all a total shit show and so fucking exhausting.

I feel like when all this online customer service stuff started, it was within a framework where everyone accepted that customer service should exist. It should be possible to fix things, get things right - but maybe it could be a bit cheaper or quicker if customers help themselves a bit with the standard stuff. Over time, the idea that it should even be possible seems to have totally eroded. It used to be a different way of getting help (in theory) but now it’s just a symbolic act of ritual pointlessless that stands in for a giant pair of two fingers flicking the v’s. You can’t get us! We aren’t going to help you! There’s nothing you can do!

I hate it on here when posters berate other posters for expecting better. Dont forget what life used to be like! Once you could see doctors! Once you could get refunds on blatantly faulty goods! We aren’t crazy to long for those days back!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 16/12/2025 22:14

Daygloboo · 15/12/2025 21:40

Absolutely 100%. Life is too fast, too chaotic, not at human pace and people cant cope. I genuinely think we need to go back to a slower pace of life. Everone is under so much pressure that nobody iscreally able to do their job properly, hence all the cock ups and bad service. And everybody passes the buck.

Yep, they're made to use systems and processes which they know are less efficient than the tried and tested way of doing things, have to seem positive about it to customers when really they know it's a load of shit and worst of all the people bringing in these "improved" systems haven't factored in staff time to try to resolve resulting unforeseen issues. Both customer satisfaction and staff morale drop (because people generally DO want to make their customers feel satisfied) but even the customers don't have enough time to spend trying to get things resolved, so nothing gets resolved, there is just low level unsatisfaction all round.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 16/12/2025 21:59

the80sweregreat · 16/12/2025 08:40

Many websites take down the more negative feedback my old company does this too! Made me laugh how I read something on Facebook about them and within seconds it was taken down if it’s not praise. We knkw their game.
I do struggle with accents on the phone too. I had to phone up the bank and the ladies accent was so strong I really couldn’t understand her that well. She was also having problems understanding me too.
It’s definitely a problem and I think that sometimes people are having more problems actually articulating how to solve the problems as well ( which adds to the frustrations)

Influencers do that too. I rememmber posting a comment on a post of a fashion influencer who'd bought a few new items. She had a pair of ridiculous sunglasses on which didn't suit her at all, she looked so silly. I posted feedback that I thought she looked great in everything but the sunglasses which I didn't think were flattering. My post was quietly removed, and instead there was one post after the other of "oh you look fab!", "those sunglasses are amazing on you", "you really suit that whole outfit, the sun glasses are so unique" etc etc.

It was the first time I really realised that influencers are just a LOAD OF BOLLOCKS, and just a different form of advertising. None of it's real. Same goes for most online reviews, and now general comments on chat forums are getting the same treatment. Just very little that's actually genuine.

Mimilamore · 16/12/2025 21:39

And don’t get me started on on the DVLA….

RaraRachael · 16/12/2025 19:25

I actually got to speak to a human straight away when I phoned AO. I've always found their service good.
If they can do it, why can't others?

OneLoyalGreyFish · 16/12/2025 17:47

My husband passed away unexpectedly in August and I still haven’t got round to changing everything over to just my name, due to the endless waiting for someone to answer the phone when you ring these companies/businesses. Some days I get upset as soon as I say my husband has died, on those days I’m good for nothing else, my brain power is depleted. Most companies it takes at least half an hour to sort out.
A case in point - received car insurance renewal, this reminded me that I hadn’t changed it to just my name, rang and sorted it, had to go through all the questions as if it was a new quote, told this would trigger the renewal in just my name. As the house/contents insurance is with same company they put me through to that department - a bit quicker sorting that. A few days later renewal in my name came, £23 more so I queried it - told prices change daily and that was new figure now. Shopped around but cheapest comparison with companies I’d actually heard of was neither here or there. Ended up paying the extra amount. Then letter arrives about house/contents insurance, I owe them £5.63 (!) and if not paid the insurance is invalid! Rang, letter should never have been sent, amount should have been wiped off by them. Just exhausting, nothing goes smoothly.

Supersimkin7 · 16/12/2025 17:15

Buy online only with PayPal. They move when something goes wrong, and big firms know it.

PersephonePomegranate · 16/12/2025 17:14

I share your frustrations, OP. Seemingly straightforward and everyday things are never straightforward and involve untold levels of aggrevation!

Tallulahss · 16/12/2025 17:08

A classic for me is buying a car park ticket, it gives me the rage everytime!!!!

MrsZiggywinkle · 16/12/2025 16:59

LemograssLollipop · 16/12/2025 01:51

Can I add banks? It's so ridiculous that they are closing existing branches then trumpeting the news that they are creating hubs with the Post Office to provide access following closure of the hubs 🤦🏾‍♀️ Makes no sense and you can't do much banking in the hubs other than print a statement.
Family member works for a bank with about three branches in the city. I'm horrified by the stories of customers who are shunted between branches for fairly standard tasks because some incompetent can't be bothered to deal with it.

Wait until you have to do banking for an elderly relative using Lasting Power of Attorney. That’s a whole other level of madness. I have a whole list of banks and companies I will never use again.

RudolphTheReindeer · 16/12/2025 14:12

Yanbu. I feel like I never catch a break, disabled children in the house, the send system a previous op mentioned is bloody relentless in itself, reviews, changes meaning we'll end up at tribunal AGAIN. Multiple ongoing complaints almost constantly and that's before you start on the fucking life admin that shouod take 10 mins but takes forever because your password doesn't work, you need an app, you can't checkout with registering an account you don't want, something the house going wrong, elderly parents needing some help, what should be a straight forward job is never straight forward. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.