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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 15:03

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 14:49

I don't know any Jew (and I'll bet I know far more than you) who has ever stated 'that we are the most persecuted people' nor that '72,000 deaths were necessary collateral'.
What a disgusting comment to post. Shame on you.

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Indeed.

Really revealing their true colours here.

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freakyfriday23 · 20/12/2025 14:57

Because the jew haters always appear and attempt to derail with their obvious jew hating comments disguised as gazan concern, why don't ALL posters literally ignore their posts on any jewish related post? If noone responded/ignored they might just fuck off and if they don't?...who really gives a fuck. Seriously, ignore the cunts 😀 i do, always. Have no interest in anything they say even if i may agree with some of it. Their whole vibe would never change any of my views, the views would have to come from a more calm nuanced perspective

Ursh81 · 20/12/2025 14:53

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 14:49

I don't know any Jew (and I'll bet I know far more than you) who has ever stated 'that we are the most persecuted people' nor that '72,000 deaths were necessary collateral'.
What a disgusting comment to post. Shame on you.

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I was paraphrasing arguments and oversimplified in the way that the OP had just done to show that this sort of thing can work both ways.

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 14:49

Ursh81 · 20/12/2025 14:43

"But Hamas are causing this..."
"But we are the most persecuted people.."
"But they rejected the two state solution.."
"But those 72000 deaths were necessary collateral.."
Repeat ad nauseum.

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I don't know any Jew (and I'll bet I know far more than you) who has ever stated 'that we are the most persecuted people' nor that '72,000 deaths were necessary collateral'.
What a disgusting comment to post. Shame on you.

Ursh81 · 20/12/2025 14:43

LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 12:52

I’m not antisemitic, but…

Of course the 07 October attacks were horrendous, but…

I condemn the Bondi Beach attacks, but…

Repeat ad nauseam.

"But Hamas are causing this..."
"But we are the most persecuted people.."
"But they rejected the two state solution.."
"But those 72000 deaths were necessary collateral.."
Repeat ad nauseum.

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LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 14:00

Beachtastic · 20/12/2025 13:48

It may be a Western-style democracy, but it is surrounded by oil-rich and powerful Middle Eastern countries that want Israel off the map and Jews eradicated,and have never made any secret of these ambitions.

Being "shocked at Israel's behaviour" is not really fair considering Western countries don't face this kind of existential threat.

Any Western country’s behaviour would be viewed similarly
Imagine if hordes of French, with the full backing of other European countries, had swarmed into a UK festival and surrouding villages to torture, rape, mutilate, burn alive, scalp, and take hostages. What would a sensible response be?

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I would very much like to see an answer to this question too.

So many people have asked it but none of the apologists ever answer it.

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Beachtastic · 20/12/2025 13:48

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 15:25

You see, I think the fact that Israel can be considered part of the West, backed by other Western countries, and is a democracy, means that people hold its government to higher standards than they do other countries, which may be dictatorships. So they’re more shocked at what’s happening in Gaza, equally appalled at other events worldwide, but more shocked at Israel’s behaviour. Especially if they haven’t being paying attention politically.
Anti-semitism is (mostly) not the reason for the criticism. Any Western country’s behaviour would be viewed similarly.

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It may be a Western-style democracy, but it is surrounded by oil-rich and powerful Middle Eastern countries that want Israel off the map and Jews eradicated,and have never made any secret of these ambitions.

Being "shocked at Israel's behaviour" is not really fair considering Western countries don't face this kind of existential threat.

Any Western country’s behaviour would be viewed similarly
Imagine if hordes of French, with the full backing of other European countries, had swarmed into a UK festival and surrouding villages to torture, rape, mutilate, burn alive, scalp, and take hostages. What would a sensible response be?

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LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 13:44

HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 13:26

This is constant and it does my head in 😥

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I can imagine 💐

Probably the same posters who on other threads say there should be no ‘but’ after saying “I’m not racist”.

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HappyFace2025 · 20/12/2025 13:26

LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 12:52

I’m not antisemitic, but…

Of course the 07 October attacks were horrendous, but…

I condemn the Bondi Beach attacks, but…

Repeat ad nauseam.

This is constant and it does my head in 😥

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LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 12:52

I’m not antisemitic, but…

Of course the 07 October attacks were horrendous, but…

I condemn the Bondi Beach attacks, but…

Repeat ad nauseam.

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LucyWestenra · 20/12/2025 12:32

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 18:41

I'm not expanding on your points when this isn't the CITME board. I'm here to offer my support to the biggest persecuted group, in history. God knows they need it.

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Exactly this.

It’s just relentless isn’t it? They just don’t stop, ever.

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Kingscallops · 20/12/2025 12:30

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 12:18

Yes, it does.
There has been increased Islamophobia as well as anti-semitism.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/israel-gaza-war-behind-record-high-us-anti-muslim-incidents-advocacy-group-says-2025-03-11/

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Individual appalling cases but not terrorist attacks?

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 12:18

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 21:47

Palestinians, outside of Gaza aren't being targetted are they? Does the hate follow them around?.

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Yes, it does.
There has been increased Islamophobia as well as anti-semitism.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/israel-gaza-war-behind-record-high-us-anti-muslim-incidents-advocacy-group-says-2025-03-11/

1dayatatime · 20/12/2025 01:20

Leoari · 19/12/2025 22:46

5 times to accept a 2 state solution but no, rejected every time and always chose war ( thinking Israel wouldn't win) Why not just choose Peace?

Because they still want to destroy the State of Israel. None of this is new, remember that when President Sadat agreed a peace deal with Israel in 1979 he was assassinated soon after by enraged Islamists.

Kingscallops · 20/12/2025 01:03

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 00:55

I know, but I think automatically.
Your mind is made up. I don’t think you’re receptive to differing opinions on this subject. Apologies if I’ve misunderstood you.

I can understand why there us the view that the war has heightened antisemitism. I just don't believe it myself. 🤷

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 00:55

I know, but I think automatically.
Your mind is made up. I don’t think you’re receptive to differing opinions on this subject. Apologies if I’ve misunderstood you.

Kingscallops · 20/12/2025 00:52

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 00:31

I don’t think this is a real discussion unfortunately. You appear to be on transmit but not receive.

No I'm disagreeing with you.

Therewillbeaway · 20/12/2025 00:31

I don’t think this is a real discussion unfortunately. You appear to be on transmit but not receive.

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 23:11

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 23:01

There is even more hatred now.

Reports show an increase in anti-semitic attacks since the war in Gaza.

Well I guess ignorance tends to do that. Not sure how any of this is useful to this discussion.

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 23:01

There is even more hatred now.

Reports show an increase in anti-semitic attacks since the war in Gaza.

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 22:52

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 22:48

I agree there is no justification for anti-semitism of course.

I don’t understand what you mean by there is no revenge.

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The terrorist attacks are fuelled only by intolerance and hate. Sorry to say but events in Gaza are inconsequential to attacks on Synagogues and Jewish celebrations.

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 22:48

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 22:46

Hamas and its people don't give a toss about civilian deaths. I don't understand why you can't see this. There is no revenge. I'm not just talking about the people inside Gaza, either. Once again, there is NO justification for antisemitism.

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I agree there is no justification for anti-semitism of course.

I don’t understand what you mean by there is no revenge.

Leoari · 19/12/2025 22:46

5 times to accept a 2 state solution but no, rejected every time and always chose war ( thinking Israel wouldn't win) Why not just choose Peace?

Kingscallops · 19/12/2025 22:46

Therewillbeaway · 19/12/2025 22:42

Very unfortunately Israel’s actions in Gaza will fuel terrorism, not defeat it.
I don’t understand why they can’t see this.

Hamas and its people don't give a toss about civilian deaths. I don't understand why you can't see this. There is no revenge. I'm not just talking about the people inside Gaza, either. Once again, there is NO justification for antisemitism.

Ursh81 · 19/12/2025 22:43

Leoari · 19/12/2025 22:26

But no one wants children to get killed. When Hamas have stored their military operations in hospitals, schools, cities deliberately, then more children die in war than have to. Israel has given warnings, evacuated people etc but they are at war. The child dead toll is awful but Hamas started this, have openly stated they want their civilians to be " martyrs" and they hide in underground tunnels. So it looks worse to the West, they get support from the pictures they put out( a lot of which have been proven to be fake). And then you get marches on the streets of London and Manchester in support of them which fuels terrorism worldwide. Unless Hamas are gone, Gaza can't be rebuilt so I think our government ( and us, the general population) should be far more into supporting Israel to get that done. No more terrorists allowed to govern.

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Hamas didn't 'start it'. It started in 1948.
I see you believe that the atrocities committed by the IDF are propaganda and I don't think I am going to change your mind on that. The comparative death tolls speak for themselves. I find it so desperately sad that you can't see that this is what people are protesting and have instead decided that any form of protest is inherently anti semitic.